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canadian angus

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Had a neighbors scrub bull invade our domain the last three days, twelve fences gone through, very moth eaten. The straw that broke the Camels back was he went through two more fences, got into 320 calved out cows.

Afraid the guns came out, a scrub is now longer.

So what should we have done?

CA
 

Hay Feeder

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I was discussing about neigbors bull problem on another post this week.
You had a real mess on your hands That about as bad as I have heard.
I have had the gun in hand but I have to keep telling my self the neighbor has one also. Down here the popluation is so thick those shots echo a long way and alot of people hear those shots.

In your case I would bet the bulls owner is not going to claim him now.

Maybe we need to have a extra job being a electric fence saleman
installer.
Those that follwed my other post when the neigbor put his bull in with my cows and bragged about it. The second time the bull was put in with my cows he had been out chasing golfers around on the golf course and they saw my cows so they put him in with mine. So now my name is mud with the golfers as they assumed he was my bull. When it was the biggest loud mouth bragger in towns bull.
 

kolanuraven

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If you've already shot the bull.... which is how I think your post reads.... :???: :???: ...why bother to ask and post here?



Follow the 3 "S's" and move on.........................................
 

smalltime

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Call him up and tell him to come get his stinking bull. :wink: In alaw court you will be wrong but you cant always let people crap on you.I may be wrong but I say good for you .Dont back up.
 

Grassfarmer

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We had a similar situation when I moved here - one neighbor's bulls were always looking to come onto our place in early July before we had our bulls turned out. Partly to breed cows and partly because they are usually out of grass by then :shock: :shock:
We put a single strand hot wire on the perimeter and have had no further troubles.
 

per

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Almost anything else. Good fences make good neighbors. This situation would require electricity for sure. Now when you replace that bull get one that would suit you.
 

Blkbuckaroo

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My buddy had a nieghbors five bulls,get in with his cows and beat his bull up pretty good,the guy did'nt come get them for 10 days.He's was a easy going guy about the deal,i would'nt have been :mad:.
 

Faster horses

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You've done it.

Don't tell anyone--oops, too late for that--you have
just told the whole world. :shock:

I'm with kola on this or; next time shoot him in the testicles; with a shotgun, if possible. He won't breed anything that way. :shock:

Isn't it awful when bulls don't stay home and the owners don't care?

Here you can get him in the corral, lock him up and call the
brand inspector and let him take care of it--both the bull and the
owner. But you have to get them in the corral first. We have a great
state brand inspector right here in this county and he will even help get
them in, if need be.

Interesting that you guys are suggesting electric fence. We have a
pasture we should use early as it is crested wheat grass. We can't
because the neighbor has his bulls next to that pasture. I've asked
Mr. FH about an electric fence, but he says if those bulls start
fighting, that electric fence isn't going to keep them on their side.
He doesn't want to take the chance. :???: Ideas, anyone?
 

per

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I run several pastures beside outside bulls on herds that breed earlier than mine. We heat the top wire and it keeps them from doing the initial sniff. The only way they will breach it if there are bulls fighting on the same side of the fence and they can go through anything. Doesn't happen very often. If you are still worried, outriggers work good. Put the electric wire a foot out on either the problem side of both sides if there are bulls on both. It works well.
 

PureCountry

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Laws and regulations have changed slightly in Alberta, but are still very similar to yours in Saskatchewan. "Proper procedure" in the eyes of the law, would be as FH said - get him corraled, call the livestock inspector, let them handle it. If you ask, the inspector will assist with the capture. They can give you the option of being the site of impoundment, or remove it from your premises and impound it somewhere else. When you go through these steps, there's a good chance you could get some damages paid for. If you've shot your neighbour's bull, even though it sounds like he's better off, you've possibly started a legal battle.
 

cowsense

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Electrifying the top strand works well.......as long as everything is working!We have up to 5 chargers working every summer.......keeping neighbours bulls out and mine in. We run most of our commercial cows next to a grazing association that turns bulls out far earlier than us and they will have have up to 20 bulls across that fence. A charger creates respect for the fence and there's very little to no fence damage from bulls fighting through the fence!
 

kolanuraven

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I keep A LOT of BIG bulls on this place from time to time, and I know I'm asking for trouble one day.


But so far...so good.

It seems that if the groceries are good and personalities stay calm all is well...but really NOTHING will keep them in when they want to go.

Be it either on an adventure or in search of a fight about the only thing that will stop them is a bullet!!
 

kolanuraven

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canadian angus said:
Had a neighbors scrub bull invade our domain the last three days, twelve fences gone through, very moth eaten. The straw that broke the Camels back was he went through two more fences, got into 320 calved out cows.

Afraid the guns came out, a scrub is now longer.

So what should we have done?

CA


What kinda bull is this that went thru 12 fences anyway???

What was or was not in those 12 pastures that didn't hold his attention?



I've NEVER heard of a critter going thru 12 fences....EVER!!
 

Denny

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kolanuraven said:
canadian angus said:
Had a neighbors scrub bull invade our domain the last three days, twelve fences gone through, very moth eaten. The straw that broke the Camels back was he went through two more fences, got into 320 calved out cows.

Afraid the guns came out, a scrub is now longer.

So what should we have done?

CA


What kinda bull is this that went thru 12 fences anyway???

What was or was not in those 12 pastures that didn't hold his attention?



I've NEVER heard of a critter going thru 12 fences....EVER!!

Most likely some dairy x's corriente roping steer type. You know something of top quality. That's the type I've had come visiting..

Of course 12 fences could be quite a distance or some paddock system with a post every 100' and a single smooth wire. Dairy farmers are the poorest fence builders ever in this area they would rather fix electric fence every day than spend a couple and build something that last's.
 

Hay Feeder

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I dealt with all of this. If you make the bull unserviceable some way the owner does not know or care then his bull does not breed his cows and your bull is out on him...We thought of injecting female hormones in them but these US baseball players are doing that it over reacts make more testrone.
Solar elect wire on both side works. One year I put up two sides of elect wire (planned ) had charger running and putting on insulators on neighbors side posts. He came over to help I gave him a new roll of wire to run he put it in the back of his pickup took off and never rolled it out. That was three years ago.
I have penned them up some tear up my holding pens some are not bad.
Call them to get them we do not have brand inspectors here. And fix the fence yourself. The worst deal is calving problems and disease they carry and odd calves that are sorted off and THE BULL FIGHTING OR KILLING YOUR OWN BULL.
 

canadian angus

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We chased him out of the heifers 2 days in a row, contacted the man with no reply. Tried all day and played out 2 horses on Friday to get him in. Yesterday morning he was on top of one of the best purebred cows when we fed and the hunt began!!!!! He was a 750 lb two year old who had never seen ivomec or any other herd health. There is only so much you can put up with. We didn't go rope him to get him out because who was going to pay for a $5000 gelding when he got hurt the was I see it he was worth .50 cwt $350 was alot better than $5000, a bunch of early mongeral calves and a big headache. So the problem is taken care of! Hopefully he does not decide it is Angus season and tags are free.
 

PureCountry

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Don't worry Kola, you're not the only 1 going, HUH??!!??!!??!! Some of you guys need to slow down with your typing, then reread things before you post it. Make sure it sounds normal when you read it.
 
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