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NeverTrump Sold Out For A Floor Spectacle

Mike

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CLEVELAND, Ohio — Ken Cuccinelli of the Senate Conservatives Fund and Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) sold out grassroots conservatives so they could make a spectacle on the floor of the Republican National Convention as part of the last dying breaths of the “Never Trump” collective, which is now officially dead, Breitbart News has confirmed.
A senior Republican involved in the negotiations told Breitbart News that Cuccinelli and Lee “were given an opportunity to accept two different proposals by the RNC chairman Reince Priebus.”

“They walked away from both,” said the Republican strategist personally involved in the negotiations, someone who had friends on both sides.
“The second [proposal] was this morning at 9 a.m. when Ken Cuccinelli could not deliver Sen. Mike Lee,” the strategist said. “The first deal [last Thursday night] was we offered 15 percent bonus delegates and there was a bunch of other stuff that’s been written about but that was their biggest thing for all these closed primary states. And then this morning, we offered them after winning in Rules [committee last week] 10 percent plus removing the language in the rules that would have made committee members information confidential, we would have removed that.”

Basically, what happened is, in order to have a spectacle on the floor of the convention where it looks like there was a battle inside the party, Lee and Cuccinelli turned down two packages that had almost everything they wanted in them. The first was last week, during Rules Committee negotiations when the “Never Trump” movement was soundly defeated there. That package would have changed the amount of delegates that are offered to states with closed primaries, giving them “bonus” delegates at a rate of 15 percent per the number of at-large delegates in a delegation. So if a state with a closed primary had 20 at-large delegates, they would have gotten 3 extra delegates. They turned that down and fought their battle in the Rules Committee.

As they planned to take their already losing battle to the Convention floor, Priebus offered them a similarly lucrative pro-grassroots package. They would remove language from the RNC rules keeping committee members’ information confidential—which means it would make it easier for grassroots activists to lobby the RNC—and they would still get 10 percent of “bonus” delegates per the number of at-large delegates per delegation from states with closed primaries.

What Cuccinelli and Lee purportedly wanted, however, was 20 percent of “bonus” delegates for the entire delegation—at-large and delegates—per state with closed primaries.

They got everything else they wanted, too, as during the Rules Committee meeting last week Priebus offered an amendment that dropped the number of states a candidate for president must win from 50 percent or more of the delegates to be considered at the convention for nomination from eight states back down to five. But Cuccinelli and Lee turned down these packages from Priebus and the RNC that would have significantly increased the power grassroots conservatives have over the Republican Party, and they did it so as to create a show on the floor of the convention.

“He never had any intention of doing anything but trying to create a scene,” the Republican strategist said of Cuccinelli. “He’s been working with the Never Trump folks, and they’ve been saying, ‘Oh no we’re not a part of that.’ Bullshit. They have been a part of that from day one.”

But after what just went down on the convention floor, as Cuccinelli and Lee sold out the grassroots for a floor fireworks show, this strategist—again, someone intricately involved in the negotiations—told Breitbart News that “Never Trump is officially dead and buried.”

Cuccinelli and Lee have not responded to Breitbart News requests for comment on this matter.
 

Traveler

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Hillary should be able to make a hell of a sound byte out of that, which sort of seemed like their objective. Morons.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/anti-trump-republicans-call-roll-call-vote
 

Brad S

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Traveler said:
Hillary should be able to make a hell of a sound byte out of that, which sort of seemed like their objective. Morons.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/anti-trump-republicans-call-roll-call-vote

The single most prolific source for sound bytes embarrassing to conservatives, is the Donald himself - meanwhile he acts like, or really is, oblivious to his damage.
 

Mike

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Most people tell me the reason they voted for him is his Un-PC statements and that he is not afraid to speak his mind. But i guess his "embarrassing" statements are what won him the nomination over 16 other candidates with his oblivious damages?
 

Steve

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what won him was the shear number of candidates splitting the pot,.. that and all the so-called independents, democrats and liberals who crossed over to vote for him as a spoiler.. Ironically trump and some of his family would be included in that bunch..

as for the NEVER TRUMP movement being dead... only the final ballot ever mattered.. and Trump and his obnoxious followers have alienated so many folk that I doubt he could ever do anything at this point to win those folk over..

I may never "support" trump, but if I vote for a third party candidate it will be because I am so few up with his words, actions and that of his obnoxious followers. and for that only time will tell.
so keep the insults up,.. keep acting like a sore winner and see how that turns out..

My bet it will Be Cruz in 2020,.
 

Mike

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Steve said:
what won him was the shear number of candidates splitting the pot,..

The above is just absurd. Having more candidates should have lowered his percentage of votes. :roll:

Trump has more wins than any other Republican or Democrat candidate in this year’s race with 36. He also has more primary wins with 33 and leads all candidates in percent of overall wins and in percent of primary wins.


Trump received 13,406,108 votes to date in the elections according to http://www.thegreenpapers.com.

As a result Trump has more votes than any candidate in Republican history.

Trump shattered the previous record by 1.4 million votes — and that was with 17 candidates in the race

George W. Bush had 12 million votes in 2000. The Republican Party also set a party record this year in pre-convention state election turnout with over 28 million votes to date which is 139% of the record high voter turnout in 2008. This increase in votes can be attributed to Donald Trump.

Trump won a higher percentage of votes than any candidate ever when considering the number of contenders in the race. He also has the highest percent of delegates when considering the competition than any candidate ever.

Trump may also be the first candidate in the modern era to have funded his campaign by himself during the primary season.

Although his results are much more impressive, he only spent a quarter the amount of money as Democrats Clinton and Sanders. He proved to be the real capitalist in the primary while Clinton and Sanders proved to be the socialists freely spending other people’s money.
 

loomixguy

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Something tells me that at some point in the not too distant future, 2.0 is going to have an awful case of buyer's remorse. Hell, he may even steal a page from 1.0's playbook and start deleting his so called (cough) "conservative" Drumpf supporting posts. LMFAO!
 

Mike

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Something tells me you're still in bad need a 5 Gallon Bucket of Super Preparation H for your chronically extreme butthurt.
 

Steve

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Trump won a higher percentage of votes than any candidate ever when considering the number of contenders in the race. He also has the highest percent of delegates when considering the competition than any candidate ever.

you can look at as a cup half full but the fact is if it was just trump and one or two others after the early contests like it usually is, Trump would have had a much closer race. and may have even lost. but with candidates splitting the vote Trump won most if not all of the protest vote. I would bet many of those in the early states will look back and regret trowing av vote at him just to piss off the establishment.

Overall vote
Republicans 20,375,925
Democrats 15,070,178

By candidate
Clinton 8,668,136
Trump 7,548,429
Sanders 6,131,951
Cruz 5,484,494
Rubio 3,394,134
Kasich 2,725,327
Carson 677,307
Bush 249,894
O'Malley 94,692

gee I guess it is all over and we should have just thrown in the towel last march and coronated queen hillery.
but if you closely look at it as it wrapped up..
2016_gop_presidential_primary_total_votes_through_indiana_chartbuilder_1c7fcff1449f9605af742f0dfedad454.nbcnews-ux-600-480.png

had anyone just dropped out the result could have been incredibly different.

I voted for Ron Paul in the 2012 primary as a protest, but didn't support him.. especially after he tried to hijack the delegate selection.
protest votes carry a double edge sword. mine didn't count so it was easy to give. But those in the early states count and sadly have more of an impact.

Being last to vote means you select the candidate for me.. that is unfair. but a reality, just like now you think we should support a piss poor candidate because a bunch of chance happening put him over the edge. it aint' going to happen..
 

loomixguy

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Mike said:
Something tells me you're still in bad need a 5 Gallon Bucket of Super Preparation H for your chronically extreme butthurt.

Oh, I don't think so, 2.0. You're going to get exactly what you deserve and have been asking for, either way it goes. But then you've always been a sucker for those who commit fraud.
 

Mike

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If trump only gives us 2-3 SCOTUS judges I'll be satisfied. Unlike Cruz....who endorsed Roberts and gave us ObamaCare.
 

Mike

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loomixguy said:
Someone's mainlining the Kool Aid.....and has taken up residence in Drumpftown.

Go ahead and vote your conscience, I know you want Hillary to pick the new SCOTUS'...........
 

loomixguy

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I refuse to be bullied by a newer model of a "really quite conservative" RINO.

No matter who is elected, my conscience is clear. I will not give up my principles for what is cheap or easy (or cheesey).

When you settle for the "lesser of two evils", you've sold your soul. Evil is evil. You wanted it, now revel in it.
 

Mike

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When you settle for the "lesser of two evils", you've sold your soul. Evil is evil. You wanted it, now revel in it.

Let me let you in on a little secret. Ever since the election process went to a primary system to whittle down the number of candidates in each party, so that there would be just 2,3, or 4 candidates on the final ballot, the majority of all the voters must vote against someone instead of voting someone.

Their purpose was to not have a dozen or so people on the final ballot so that a candidate can win the 270 Electoral College votes needed and every election wouldn't go to the House................ Get used to it, or get over it, it's called Democracy.

Just because you make bad decisions, doesn't mean the system doesn't work. :roll:
 

Steve

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loomixguy said:
The only bad decision is voting for a New York liberal

for me it will probably come down to the Supreme Court vacancy, and the potential future vacancies.

We KNOW we will get liberal justices with Hillery, Trump has indicated we would get conservatives, but may end up with moderates or even a leftest. so do you go for the sure thing with almost guaranteed bad result and NOT vote for Trump or do you risk 4 years of a president making an @$$ of himself and damaging our reputation for a few years.. or a lifetime court appointment damaging our Constitution for generations.

as for supporting trump himself,.. never going to happen unless he makes solid moves to "actually" unite the party.. and mend some of the fences he drug threw the mud and then burned down. Uniting the party seems like something Trump and his supporters seem incapable of.
 

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