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nobamas ticket give away

hopalong

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Russell Haythorn, 7NEWS Reporter

POSTED: 6:16 pm MDT August 12, 2008
UPDATED: 1:35 pm MDT August 13, 2008


DENVER -- The Obama campaign has begun notifying people who got tickets for the big acceptance speech at Invesco Field the final night of the convention.

Many of those who received tickets told 7NEWS they have come with a caveat.Those viewers said the campaign told them they must volunteer six hours for the campaign by Friday in order to get a ticket.

"I got a call that if I want the tickets I have to volunteer two shifts of three hours apiece -- for one ticket. If I want two tickets, then it's four shifts of two hours apiece," said Berenice Christensen.

Another 7NEWS viewer sent an e-mail that said, "I received a call Monday saying I could 'qualify' for the tickets if I do 12 hours of volunteer work for the Obama campaign between now and Friday the 15th."

The viewer e-mail goes on, "To work 40 hours at my job, get to and from work, get to and from the campaign office and complete the 12 hours in three days would be next to impossible."

Dozens of Obama supporters are already volunteering. They are volunteers who believe working for tickets to the biggest night of the convention is a small price to pay.

"They're trying desperately. I mean, they're almost panic-stricken, they want tickets to hear his acceptance speech," said volunteer Terry Andrews.

"I put my name in. I'm keeping my fingers crossed," said Sue Palmer.

Christensen said she too is excited, but a part of her believes the process for signing up was disingenuous. "I mean they made it seem like any Coloradan could go, and now you have to work for your ticket."

A Breckenridge resident e-mailed 7NEWS with a similar experience:

"My experience matches what you are hearing from other sources. Because of my work schedule and other activities going on, I did not sign up for the All Star tickets. But I was called by the campaign and told that I had to volunteer this week in order to get tickets at all. I finally agreed to one three-hour shift, but it left a bad impression for this lifelong Democrat. I hope someone in the campaign understands that they are turning off volunteers with their aggressive and disorganized approach," the Breckenridge resident wrote.

Susan M. Martinez, from Boulder, Colo., wrote us to say, "There is no way I can volunteer between now and Friday (if that is the timeframe). I think I entered my name for consideration early. I entered my name within 5 minutes of the 'Breaking News' message appearing in my e-mail from TheDenverChannel. I just might wait to see if "community creditionals" really exist."

Loring Abeyta, from Denver, wrote, "I just read your article... about the confusion regarding tickets to Obama's speech, and the situation is worse than you reported. I went to the Campaign for Change office last Friday evening to earn three hours of credit toward my "All Star Credentials," and it was nothing but confusion. I went to one meeting where I thought I would earn my volunteer credit, and learned that I had gone to the wrong meeting and had not earned credit. When I told the volunteer coordinator how unhappy I was about spending my evening at the campaign office for nothing, she had nothing to say -- not even an apology for the confusion. It is utter disarray in that office and they have alienated me as a volunteer."

Abeyta's letter goes on to say, "The problem got worse today when I got three phone calls from three different people at the Obama campaign office asking me to bring food for the staff. I had signed up to donate snacks, but I didn't realize I was supposed to feed the whole staff. Just thought you'd want to know that the problem goes way beyond just the confusion about the tickets. I have no idea how Obama can win Colorado when the campaign office is such a disaster."

The Obama campaign insists that volunteering is not a requirement to get a ticket.

They said those who were told they must volunteer must have clicked on the opt-in button for "all-star seating" when they signed up for the tickets. If you click that button, then you are required to volunteer, but you get a better seat.

If you choose not to volunteer, you retain your place in line for what is called a "community credential," according to the campaign.


People who received tickets for Invesco Field at Mile High Stadium will be notified by text or e-mail between now and Friday.

Yep just another way the DEMOCRAP party screws the little people :roll: :roll: :mad:
 

Larrry

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They can't handle 70,000 people without screwin it up and they expect us to trust him with the presidency.
I would have figured a community organizer could of handled a simple convention.
 

Larrry

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Did you hear the Dems did not want to leave a footprint when they went to Denver. So it seems they bought carbon credits from a wind generation farm. Turns out the wind farm is not operational. :lol:
 
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aplusmnt said:
Carbon Credits are such a joke! Had to be a Liberal that came with such a ridiculous thing! :roll:

I don't know- a fellow I know just picked up an $1800 check for signing up his improved pasture land..

I'm thinking of looking into it..
 
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Anonymous

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aplusmnt said:
Carbon Credits are such a joke! Had to be a Liberal that came with such a ridiculous thing! :roll:

Farmers earn carbon credits
By TOM LUTEY
Of The Gazette Staff

It's been a year since Montana farmers cut the record wheat harvest of 2007, but carbon traders say for many there's still money to be made from a bumper crop trapped beneath the sod.

State farmers with no-till or low-till operations have already been paid $1 million for land signed into carbon trading programs for 2007.

But, there's still time through the end of the working day today to register more land into carbon credit "bonus" programs.

The programs pair no-till or low-till farm operations with industrial polluters trying to offset greenhouse gas emissions, namely carbon dioxide. By not tilling land, farmers leave carbon undisturbed in the ground. The crops they plant over untilled stubble clean the air by consuming carbon dioxide and releasing oxygen. Industries buying carbon credits on the Chicago Climate Exchange pay farmers for the practice. The market is young and credits historically have sold for less than a dollar, but farm groups see better profits as government regulations force polluters to offset carbon dioxide emissions.

"As recently as a couple months ago, carbon was trading for $6 a metric ton," said Lola Raska with Montana Grain Growers Association. "We see a lot of potential here."

The Grain Growers is one of the groups signing up farmers for carbon credit programs. Its carbon traders split $558,000 with other farmers doing business with the Butte-based National Carbon Offset Coalition, or NCOC.

All told, the money was split between 66 landowners, according to NCOC's Emily Tafoya. Members of the Montana Farmer's Union pulled in another $551,000. The Montana Farm Bureau Federation also has a credit program.

Farmers have to have an Aug. 15 postmark on their applications to meet the deadline for the 2007 carbon year. In the case of the Farmer's Union, farmers can apply for the carbon credit program online at http://carboncredit.ndfu.org.

Carbon trading isn't without its critics, who argue that no-till farmers are being paid to do something they're already doing and consequently additional carbon isn't being pulled out of the air.

Last year, the Financial Times of London published a scathing report on carbon trading that suggested companies were paying for carbon reductions that weren't happening.

In the case of the Chicago Climate Exchange, roughly one-tenth of the farmland at play is inspected to assure no-till or low-till practices are being carried out. Proponents argue that paperwork submitted by farm applicants as well as the threats of inspection are enough to make the program viable.

While corporations from out of state are buying carbon credits backed by farms in Montana and elsewhere, carbon dioxide emitters in Montana aren't.

In the long run, carbon trading probably isn't the way to go for the energy companies with coal-fired generators, said David Hoffman, external affairs manager for PPL Montana. The industry is working to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions through better technology advancements.

Carbon trading might serve as a bridge for some companies as that technology is developed, but eventually those carbon credits are going to become too expensive for power companies and their customers, Hoffman said.

Currently PPL is not buying carbon credits, but is investing in technology that's cleaner.
http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2008/08/15/news/state/35-carboncredits.txt
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
aplusmnt said:
Carbon Credits are such a joke! Had to be a Liberal that came with such a ridiculous thing! :roll:

Farmers earn carbon credits
By TOM LUTEY
Of The Gazette Staff

It's been a year since Montana farmers cut the record wheat harvest of 2007, but carbon traders say for many there's still money to be made from a bumper crop trapped beneath the sod.

State farmers with no-till or low-till operations have already been paid $1 million for land signed into carbon trading programs for 2007.

But, there's still time through the end of the working day today to register more land into carbon credit "bonus" programs.

The programs pair no-till or low-till farm operations with industrial polluters trying to offset greenhouse gas emissions, namely carbon dioxide. By not tilling land, farmers leave carbon undisturbed in the ground. The crops they plant over untilled stubble clean the air by consuming carbon dioxide and releasing oxygen. Industries buying carbon credits on the Chicago Climate Exchange pay farmers for the practice. The market is young and credits historically have sold for less than a dollar, but farm groups see better profits as government regulations force polluters to offset carbon dioxide emissions.

"As recently as a couple months ago, carbon was trading for $6 a metric ton," said Lola Raska with Montana Grain Growers Association. "We see a lot of potential here."

The Grain Growers is one of the groups signing up farmers for carbon credit programs. Its carbon traders split $558,000 with other farmers doing business with the Butte-based National Carbon Offset Coalition, or NCOC.

All told, the money was split between 66 landowners, according to NCOC's Emily Tafoya. Members of the Montana Farmer's Union pulled in another $551,000. The Montana Farm Bureau Federation also has a credit program.

Farmers have to have an Aug. 15 postmark on their applications to meet the deadline for the 2007 carbon year. In the case of the Farmer's Union, farmers can apply for the carbon credit program online at http://carboncredit.ndfu.org.

Carbon trading isn't without its critics, who argue that no-till farmers are being paid to do something they're already doing and consequently additional carbon isn't being pulled out of the air.

Last year, the Financial Times of London published a scathing report on carbon trading that suggested companies were paying for carbon reductions that weren't happening.

In the case of the Chicago Climate Exchange, roughly one-tenth of the farmland at play is inspected to assure no-till or low-till practices are being carried out. Proponents argue that paperwork submitted by farm applicants as well as the threats of inspection are enough to make the program viable.

While corporations from out of state are buying carbon credits backed by farms in Montana and elsewhere, carbon dioxide emitters in Montana aren't.

In the long run, carbon trading probably isn't the way to go for the energy companies with coal-fired generators, said David Hoffman, external affairs manager for PPL Montana. The industry is working to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions through better technology advancements.

Carbon trading might serve as a bridge for some companies as that technology is developed, but eventually those carbon credits are going to become too expensive for power companies and their customers, Hoffman said.

Currently PPL is not buying carbon credits, but is investing in technology that's cleaner.
http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2008/08/15/news/state/35-carboncredits.txt

Sorry I have to cut back on reading all your cut and paste not enough time in the day, is there somewhere in their that disputes the fact that Carbon Credits are a Joke? Or that most likely a Liberal came up with it?
 
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aplusmnt said:
Oldtimer said:
aplusmnt said:
Carbon Credits are such a joke! Had to be a Liberal that came with such a ridiculous thing! :roll:

Farmers earn carbon credits
By TOM LUTEY
Of The Gazette Staff

It's been a year since Montana farmers cut the record wheat harvest of 2007, but carbon traders say for many there's still money to be made from a bumper crop trapped beneath the sod.

State farmers with no-till or low-till operations have already been paid $1 million for land signed into carbon trading programs for 2007.

But, there's still time through the end of the working day today to register more land into carbon credit "bonus" programs.

The programs pair no-till or low-till farm operations with industrial polluters trying to offset greenhouse gas emissions, namely carbon dioxide. By not tilling land, farmers leave carbon undisturbed in the ground. The crops they plant over untilled stubble clean the air by consuming carbon dioxide and releasing oxygen. Industries buying carbon credits on the Chicago Climate Exchange pay farmers for the practice. The market is young and credits historically have sold for less than a dollar, but farm groups see better profits as government regulations force polluters to offset carbon dioxide emissions.

"As recently as a couple months ago, carbon was trading for $6 a metric ton," said Lola Raska with Montana Grain Growers Association. "We see a lot of potential here."

The Grain Growers is one of the groups signing up farmers for carbon credit programs. Its carbon traders split $558,000 with other farmers doing business with the Butte-based National Carbon Offset Coalition, or NCOC.

All told, the money was split between 66 landowners, according to NCOC's Emily Tafoya. Members of the Montana Farmer's Union pulled in another $551,000. The Montana Farm Bureau Federation also has a credit program.

Farmers have to have an Aug. 15 postmark on their applications to meet the deadline for the 2007 carbon year. In the case of the Farmer's Union, farmers can apply for the carbon credit program online at http://carboncredit.ndfu.org.

Carbon trading isn't without its critics, who argue that no-till farmers are being paid to do something they're already doing and consequently additional carbon isn't being pulled out of the air.

Last year, the Financial Times of London published a scathing report on carbon trading that suggested companies were paying for carbon reductions that weren't happening.

In the case of the Chicago Climate Exchange, roughly one-tenth of the farmland at play is inspected to assure no-till or low-till practices are being carried out. Proponents argue that paperwork submitted by farm applicants as well as the threats of inspection are enough to make the program viable.

While corporations from out of state are buying carbon credits backed by farms in Montana and elsewhere, carbon dioxide emitters in Montana aren't.

In the long run, carbon trading probably isn't the way to go for the energy companies with coal-fired generators, said David Hoffman, external affairs manager for PPL Montana. The industry is working to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions through better technology advancements.

Carbon trading might serve as a bridge for some companies as that technology is developed, but eventually those carbon credits are going to become too expensive for power companies and their customers, Hoffman said.

Currently PPL is not buying carbon credits, but is investing in technology that's cleaner.
http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2008/08/15/news/state/35-carboncredits.txt

Sorry I have to cut back on reading all your cut and paste not enough time in the day, is there somewhere in their that disputes the fact that Carbon Credits are a Joke? Or that most likely a Liberal came up with it?

They may be a joke- but a lot of farmers and ranchers are making money off them-- but since that doesn't fit your circle, I guess you could care less :???:
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
aplusmnt said:

Sorry I have to cut back on reading all your cut and paste not enough time in the day, is there somewhere in their that disputes the fact that Carbon Credits are a Joke? Or that most likely a Liberal came up with it?

They may be a joke- but a lot of farmers and ranchers are making money off them-- but since that doesn't fit your circle, I guess you could care less :???:

Glad to see Farmers and Ranchers making money, but I would rather it be off crops and livestock than some Global Warming crap championed by a man that has a larger Carbon foot print than probably most all the members of Ranchers.net combined.

I am sorry if you are a me'ist and if it benefits yourself then it is a good program. But then that is kind of how liberals lean isn't it? Whatever is good for you is the way to go?
 
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aplusmnt said:
Oldtimer said:
aplusmnt said:
Sorry I have to cut back on reading all your cut and paste not enough time in the day, is there somewhere in their that disputes the fact that Carbon Credits are a Joke? Or that most likely a Liberal came up with it?

They may be a joke- but a lot of farmers and ranchers are making money off them-- but since that doesn't fit your circle, I guess you could care less :???:

Glad to see Farmers and Ranchers making money, but I would rather it be off crops and livestock than some Global Warming crap championed by a man that has a larger Carbon foot print than probably most all the members of Ranchers.net combined.

I am sorry if you are a me'ist and if it benefits yourself then it is a good program. But then that is kind of how liberals lean isn't it? Whatever is good for you is the way to go?

Not me- I haven't signed up- as it gives another group a reason to stick their nose into your business-- and we've seen enough of that with the 7 years of the King George led USDA--- but it definitely could be an asset for some of those folks...
 
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