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Nobel Prize Winner Prusiner Supports R-CALF Brief

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Murgen- What good is OIE rules or whatever they are if nobody follows them---When the USDA set out to rewrite them just for the multinational Packers in the US and Canada they made a farce of the whole "sound science"....
 
Murgen said:
And you're willing to follow it? So, the push to get exports going is now off? RCALF does not support further exports at this time, due to the USDA's bungling of this mess?

I think your grand puba,will have another take (spin). But he's good at those.

But just to get this clarified, you Sandhusker, do not believe the US should be exporting beef until the USDA follows through with all standards that RCALF was/is asking of Canada?
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Am I willing to follow what?

Where does R-CALF state they do not support further exports?

My stand on the final rule has been and is that our requirements can not be lower than other counties. If we are to tell the world, our citizens included, that we have the safest supply of beef, our importing standards can NOT be lower than our customer's or third world country's such as Egypt.
 
Oldtimer said:
Murgen- What good is OIE rules or whatever they are if nobody follows them---When the USDA set out to rewrite them just for the multinational Packers in the US and Canada they made a farce of the whole "sound science"....
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Amen, OT. Everyone will tell you the OIE offers only "guidelines" that nobody is actually held to. Our packers got the rules rewritten so they can point to the OIE guidelines as they import beef they couldn't export before the change. They can say, "Look, we're following the guidelines of the OIE" while knowing full well they're the only ones! Talk about deception....
 
My stand on the final rule has been and is that our requirements can not be lower than other counties. If we are to tell the world, our citizens included, that we have the safest supply of beef, our importing standards can NOT be lower than our customer's or third world country's such as Egypt.
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Is your testing up to standard?

How did you get BSE in the US herd, not able to determine eh?

Is your tracking system up to snuff, eight months and counting, I guess not!

So, what RCALF is saying is that if these systems are in place you should not be exporting product. Do you agree?
 
Leo said .
So if for some reason we did find a case we can stand and look our consumers right in the eye and say, don't worry we have had these firewalls in place for years, the only country prior to having a case of BSE to have these firewalls in place for so many years. And we did it to make sure if a case was ever found it was a non-issue. If we look them right in the eye and say that I will guarantee they will keep eating beef".
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Well the US found a case and Leo and gang have the USDA in court trying to prove those firewalls are not adequate to protect and now he is using reknown Scienists to back him up. How can he stand and look the consumer right in the eye and claim the beef industy protected them and how can he guarantee the beef industry the consumers will not stop eatting beef. He can't . How can that be good for any grass root producer? You know if PETA did this we all could understand the motive but when it is an organization that claims to represent the beef industy it is just shocking how far they will go to prove they were not wrong. What will this cost the beef industry? A few billion may just be a drop in the bucket by the time R-CALF gets through proving to the world that the US beef industry can't be trusted to raise safe beef.
 
It is funny how the R-CALFers will spout the meaning of the OIE rules when they think it backs their agenda but when the OIE comes out and announces that R-CALF is misreading the guidelines and the right meaning backs the USDA how the OIE suddenly is a joke. :roll:
 
Tam, they use the USDA and NCBA in the same manner. When they agree with them, they post a press release, when they don't they post a press release.

Before RCALF, what org. do you know that ever posted a daily press release?

Call it brainwashing or subliminal, they are trying it! Not sure it is working with the US citizens and I'm damn sure it's not working with the World community. But it will work against them in the world community.

The other countries of the world will only use it against the US, because they are so dearly loved right now.

They have brought more attention than was ever deserved on this issue in NA (5 cases in total), and now they will live with it, and so will the rest of us!
 
Murgen said:
My stand on the final rule has been and is that our requirements can not be lower than other counties. If we are to tell the world, our citizens included, that we have the safest supply of beef, our importing standards can NOT be lower than our customer's or third world country's such as Egypt.
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Is your testing up to standard?

How did you get BSE in the US herd, not able to determine eh?

Is your tracking system up to snuff, eight months and counting, I guess not!

So, what RCALF is saying is that if these systems are in place you should not be exporting product. Do you agree?
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Is our testing up to what standard?

Has anybody determined how they got BSE? How did Canada get it?

Where has R-CALF said that we should not be exporting product?

Have you been using that big bong again? :lol:
 
Where has R-CALF said that we should not be exporting product?
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In their press releases. Did they not say that Canada, a BSE country, should not be exporting product due to the safety of the consumer?

Did they not say that a BSE infected country should not export product until they test every animal over 20 months, unless every animal is tested?

So, at this time, by RCALF statements, they belive the US should not be exporting meat, maybe even not be selling it to the US citizen! Unless they believe in the accepted science!

Would you like me to go on?

Face it Sandhusker, your Imperial leader has dug a hole that you need to backtrack to get out of!

If you would like to read quotes (from RCALF about the safety of meat), I'll get them for you tomorrow!
 
Sandhusker said:
If I remember correctly, they said Canada should not be exporting TO US.
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Your to FUNNY Sandhusker. It's not food safety it's Trade. Remember what's good for the Goose is good for the Gander. Your TREEd so high your going to need OXYGEN.
 
Speaking of poop ....
The legal proceedings will take place within the next 4 weeks - the media will cover it (and glorify it even further), especially with the native positive so fresh in mind. I expect the poop will hit the fan when US beef consumers hear r-calf's presentations (beef from a BSE country is "tainted"... etc etc.) ... again and again and again.

American ranchers, with their current cattle inventory, may find themselves in an oversupply position due to the lack of consumer consumption and demand.

I ask the anti-r-calfer's: how long will it take and what will it cost your ranch production to rebuild that consumer consumption and demand??
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Sandhusker said:
If I remember correctly, they said Canada should not be exporting TO US.
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Your to FUNNY Sandhusker. It's not food safety it's Trade. Remember what's good for the Goose is good for the Gander. Your TREEd so high your going to need OXYGEN.
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It IS a food safety issue. Everybody in the world considers BSE a food safety deal, except the USDA/AMI/NCBA. They try to claim it is just a herd safety deal, but the rest of the world has already made up their minds so I don't know why they continue.
 

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