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North American Union - Canadians Beware!

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GW was being criticized today on TV for failing to give a yes or no answer when questioned about the NAU or the NA Superhighway--and mainly the failure to be open with the public and Congress about the discussions.....While he might be "amused", his failure to give an outright yes or no answer is not amusing a lot of folks....

Apparently his credibility is plumb gone on this (as on most subjects) as the poll on Dobbs today was 94% not taking it as "comical"......

Do you believe, as President Bush says, the concerns about the Security and Prosperity Partnership are "comical"?
Yes 6% 532
No 94% 8126
Total Votes: 8658

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When it came time for a question from a Fox News reporter, Bush was asked if he would be willing to categorically deny that there is a plan to create a North American Union, or that there are plans to create NAFTA Superhighways.

Bush's answer was:


"We represent three great nations. We each respect each other's sovereignty. You know, there are some who would like to frighten our fellow citizens into believing that relations between us are harmful for our respective peoples. I just believe they're wrong. I believe it's in our interest to trade; I believe it's in our interest to dialogue; I believe it's in our interest to work out common problems for the good of our people.
"And I'm amused by some of the speculation, some of the old – you can call them political scare tactics. If you've been in politics as long as I have, you get used to that kind of technique where you lay out a conspiracy and then force people to try to prove it doesn't exist. That's just the way some people operate. I'm here representing my nation. I feel strongly that the United States is a force for good, and I feel strongly that by working with our neighbors we can a stronger force for good.

"So I appreciate that question. I'm amused by the difference between what actually takes place in the meetings and what some are trying to say takes place. It's quite comical, actually, when you realize the difference between reality and what some people are talking on TV about."


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57263
 

MoGal

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Good luck, you have a long way to go....and trading with other countries to create higher living standards and peaceful alliances is Christian.

Actually the Bible is very clear about debt and says, "Neither a lender, nor a borrower be" and also one of the ten commandments is, "Thou shalt not steal"............... I don't think we've had any Godly leadership for a loooooonnng time.

A president who leads his country into atrocious debt such as we have needs to be impeached for treason because he forgot the oath he took when he went into office, "to uphold the Constitution of the United States and to protect the Citizens of the United States"..........
 

Cal

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MoGal said:
Good luck, you have a long way to go....and trading with other countries to create higher living standards and peaceful alliances is Christian.

Actually the Bible is very clear about debt and says, "Neither a lender, nor a borrower be" and also one of the ten commandments is, "Thou shalt not steal"............... I don't think we've had any Godly leadership for a loooooonnng time.

A president who leads his country into atrocious debt such as we have needs to be impeached for treason because he forgot the oath he took when he went into office, "to uphold the Constitution of the United States and to protect the Citizens of the United States"..........
So would you consider having personal funds in any interest bearing account sinful because that money will be loaned out? Have people that have taken out mortgages sinned as well?
 

Steve

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I don't think we've had any Godly leadership for a loooooonnng time.

Not since February 10, 1947.


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

Justice Hugo Black, A member of the Democratic Party, Widely regarded as one of the most influential Supreme Court justices in the 20th century,..."The 'establishment of religion' clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever form they may adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa. In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect 'a wall of separation between Church and State.'" 330 U.S. 1, 15-16.

Black wrote for the Court in several cases relating to the establishment clause, where He had historically insisted on the strict separation of church and state. The most notable of these was Engel v. Vitale (1962), which declared state sanctioned prayer in public schools unconstitutional. Justice Hugo Black, writing for the majority, said the prayer is a religious activity by the very nature of it being a prayer. The majority further ruled that prescribing such a religious activity for school children violates the Establishment Clause.
 
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An interesting theory at this site-- would be completely unbelievable if it wasn't for the video...These "old farts" handled the situation quite well-- where a bunch of young hotheads would have probably fell for whatever these "provocateurs", "cops", or what ever they were, were trying to stir up and got a riot going- and made all the protesters out to be crazy radicals....

Watch the video....

http://infowars.net/articles/august2007/220807Provocateurs_SPP.htm
 

MoGal

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North American Integration and the Militarization of the Arctic

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6586


I guess we'll be fighting with Russia next......
 
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Oldtimer said:
An interesting theory at this site-- would be completely unbelievable if it wasn't for the video...These "old farts" handled the situation quite well-- where a bunch of young hotheads would have probably fell for whatever these "provocateurs", "cops", or what ever they were, were trying to stir up and got a riot going- and made all the protesters out to be crazy radicals....

Watch the video....

http://infowars.net/articles/august2007/220807Provocateurs_SPP.htm

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Canadian police admit infiltrating SPP protesters
Officials claim officers there to maintain 'security and order'

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Posted: August 23, 2007
1:00 p.m. Eastern



© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com



The leaders of the United States, Canada and Mexico conferred over the Security and Prosperity Partnership

Police authorities have admitted that three officers disguised themselves with bandannas over their faces and infiltrated protesters who assembled outside a trilateral summit in Quebec to object to the developing Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.

The Canadian Press reported that just hours earlier the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and provincial law enforcement authorities had denied using agents provocateurs at the summit, attended by U.S. President George Bush, Mexican President Felipe Calderon and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

The denial came after video evidence suggested the undercover officers tried to incite violence among the protesters, refusing requests from protest leaders to leave and, in at least one case, carrying a rock.

"Are Canadian citizens going to have to face these kinds of provocateurs just because Stephen Harper seems to think we're some sort of loony-left group?" asked Dave Coles, of the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers union. He had confronted the individuals outside the summit while the three national leaders were meeting there on Monday.

But a report from the CBC News quoted more Quebec provincial police officials admitting that three of their officers used disguises to join the demonstraters outside a resort in Montebello, Quebec.
full story:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57303
 
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MoGal said:
Guess that was one of the three in that picture up above???

Yep--Definitely appears that they were "plants" to try and stir up problems--make the protestors look bad--cause a riot, so that then the Politicians could call them all a bunch of violent nuts...And get the press to cover the police having to arrest them all....

Communist party or C.I.A. tactic-- but this is the first time I've heard of police doing it--walking around with rocks in their hands trying to get something going...
Its not unusual for law enforcement to have folks working "undercover" in these type of situations- and to have folks videoing it all, but thats usually for intelligence gathering only--and to tip law enforcement off about things to happen...

This kind of thing stinks to the highest--and whoever was the Politicians and Law Enforcement supervisors that authorized it should be strung up.... :mad:
So much "for being sworn to keep the peace."
:( :mad: :mad:
 
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This is the new mandatory ID everyone will have to have-- SIG HEIL..... :( :mad:


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New Licenses Incite Fears of North American Union

Thursday, September 6, 2007 7:41 PM




Pro-border security advocates are warning that the new North Carolina driver's license is a dangerous first step toward a "North American Union" driving permit.

The Tar Heel State recently introduced a license that includes a hologram on its reverse side.

The problem: Critics object that the hologram portrays the entire North American continent, not just the United States. Moreover, they say it looks just like the map of North American used as the logo on the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America Web site (www.spp.gov).

The SPP supports enhanced regulatory cooperation and the promotion of cross-border trade among the United States, Mexico, and Canada.

Those who object to the North American Union and related projects like the NAFTA Super Highway say it will compromise American sovereignty, exacerbate border-security concerns, and ultimately lead to economic hardships for U.S. citizens.

Groups opposed to illegal immigration worry that a North American driver's license could ultimately enable a citizen of Mexico, Canada, or the United States to travel freely anywhere on the Continent.

William Gheen, who heads the Raleigh, N.C.-based Americans for Legal Immigration political action committee, says the new license is “‘North American Union' ready.”

Gheen says he’ll protest the new license by refusing to apply for a license, even though it will prevent him from driving a car and make it difficult to travel on a commercial airline.

The hologram is a foil-based security patch that carries design features both visible and invisible to the human eye, including a variety of codes, numbers, and 3-D and fluorescent images. North Carolina DMV officials say the new licenses will eventually be used all over North America, and will take several years to roll out.

North Carolina Division of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Marge Howell says the new licenses will increase security, protect against document fraud, and aid law enforcement officials in identifying crime suspects.

The American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators that designed the hologram represents state and provincial officials in the United States and Canada who administer and enforce motor vehicle laws. The government of Mexico is also a member, though individual Mexican states have yet to join.

"The goal is of the North American hologram is to get one common element that law enforcement throughout the continent can look at on all driver's licenses and tell that the driver's license is an official document," Howell says.

full story
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/license_north_american/2007/09/06/30512.html
 

MoGal

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The Real ID Act was signed by Bush in 05/05 and has to be implemented by 05/08......... and the USA database is now aligned with the EU database because United Nations wants it.
The Real ID Act has been passed onto the states license dept. and if they don't comply then they will lose federal funding.......... some states have passed laws to not participate in it......... evidently NC wasn't one of them.
 
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MoGal said:
The Real ID Act was signed by Bush in 05/05 and has to be implemented by 05/08......... and the USA database is now aligned with the EU database because United Nations wants it.
The Real ID Act has been passed onto the states license dept. and if they don't comply then they will lose federal funding.......... some states have passed laws to not participate in it......... evidently NC wasn't one of them.

Montana was-- I suppose they'll jerk all our federal funding again until we play ball with them like they did when they told us we needed a speed limit and we told them to stick it.... :( :mad: :mad:
 
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I thought GW said there was no plans for a Superhighway or a North American Union....Something about it being a laughable conspiracy theory :???: This Mexican mayor must be just joking eh GW :???: :(

Again the Mexicans blame all their problems on the US--and that we should just happily lower our standard of living to theirs and then there will no longer be an alien problem.... :roll:
Its starting to appear thats what GW's economic policy is too--but he's still got a ways to go in devaluing the dollar...
:( :( :(
1.00 Mexican pesos = 0.09 US dollars

Exchange rate: 0.091016
Rate valid as of: 9/21/2007





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Mexican official urges North American Union
Tells Denver trade conference EU is 'model we need to follow quickly'


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Posted: September 21, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Michael Howe
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com



At a Denver conference on intercontinental trade corridors, a Mexican mayor called for a swift move toward a European Union-style merger of the U.S., Canada and Mexico.

Referring to Europe, Evaristo Lenin Perez of Ciudad Acuna – a sister city of Del Rio, Texas – told the Great Plains International Conference, "It's a model we need to follow quickly."

Perez later told WND, "If only people know the benefits of opening the borders and working together, improving the quality of life for all, then no one would be opposed to the idea of a North American Union."

A spokesman for organizers of the conference – which began Wednesday and concludes today – rejected the Mexican mayor's view.


"This is not what the conference is about, it is not about a North American Union," said Joe Kiely, vice president of the Ports-to-Plains Trade Corridor Coalition. "It is about developing infrastructure and economic opportunities in the Great Plains. I am equally surprised the other items were brought up here."

Ports-to-Plains describes itself as "a planned, multimodal transportation corridor including a multi-lane divided highway that will facilitate the efficient transportation of goods and services from Mexico, through West Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, and Oklahoma, and ultimately on into Canada and the Pacific Northwest."

http://www.portstoplains.com/

The conference, held at the Adams Mark Hotel, is promoted as an opportunity to "highlight the efforts of communities and citizens working together to bring the benefits of investment in transportation infrastructure and trade home to the Great Plains region."

Asked why he chose the conference to promote the idea of a North American Union, Perez told WND, "It's as good as any place and the right people are here."

"This is not a new idea," he said. "In fact when there are border meetings between border governors or border legislatures this is a topic that continually comes up."

Perez also affirmed the Ports to Plains Corridor is basically a NAFTA Superhighway and needs to be developed as such.

"We need to begin by building the infrastructure in the three countries, investing in Mexico, and then we can sell the main idea that Mexicans should stay in Mexico. We just need to create an equal level for all," Perez said.

Del Rio, Texas, Mayor Efrain Valdes told conferees he came to build relationships he hopes will last for decades to come.

"We are all North Americans," he said. "Three countries, but we are all North Americans."

Michael Reeves, president of Ports-to-Plains Trade Corridor Coalition, kicked off the conference with brief remarks.

Eduardo Arnal, consulate general of Mexico in Denver, later provided numerous statistics documenting the strong economic relationship between Mexico and the U.S.

"Because of NAFTA, we are partners in the fight against terror and need to help ensure each other's safety," Arnal said.

Arnal later discussed with WND the relationship between Mexico and the U.S. and the issue of illegal immigration.

"The best and only way to stop illegal immigration is for the United States to invest in Mexico," he said. "A fence will not work. It's a simple equation of supply and demand – Mexicans go to the U.S. for work because the demand for their labor and wages is there."

Arnal said although Mexico must share responsibility for the immigration issue, it is the U.S. that really needs to step up and begin investing more in Mexico to help bring the country to a level playing field.

The Canadian perspective was delivered by Phillippe Taillon, vice consul and trade commissioner of the Canadian Consulate in Denver. Like his Mexican counterpart, Taillon presented statistics on the relationship between the three countries and told the crowd "NAFTA has been hugely profitable for all three countries."

He also expressed an interest in continuing to integrate rail, truck and air transportation networks as Canada looks to open new markets from Asia.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57762
 
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Congress debate begins on North America Union
Resolution calls for end of NAFTA superhighway, abandonment of integration with Canada, Mexico


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Posted: September 25, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com



A House resolution urging President Bush "not to go forward with the North American Union or the NAFTA Superhighway system" is – according to its sponsor Rep. Virgil Goode, R-Va., in an exclusive WND interview – "also a message to both the executive branch and the legislative branch."


As WND previously reported, on Jan. 22 Goode introduced H.C.R. 40, titled "Expressing the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada."

The bill has been referred to the House Subcommittee on Highways and Transit of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.


WND asked Goode if the president was risking electoral success for the Republican Party in 2008 with his insistence on pushing for North American integration via the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, or SPP.

"Yes," Goode answered. "You won't hear the leadership in the Republic Party admit it, but there are many in the House and Senate who know that illegal immigration has to be stopped and legal immigration has to be reduced. We are giving away the country so a few very rich people can get richer."

full story:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57817
 

Cal

Well-known member
Yep, the more I read WorldNetDaily, the more I realize that they really hit the nail on the head, sort of like with this article :roll: :

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33347

'Bigfoot' spotted in China
Hairy creature reportedly seen by 6 people in nature reserve

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Yesterday, "Bigfoot," the legendary hairy beast countless witnesses claim to have seen but to date has eluded capture, reportedly was spotted by six people in the Shennongjia Nature Reserve in China.

Agence France-Presse quotes the state-run Xinhua news agency as having reported the sighting in central China's Hubei province. According to the report, local lore has it the nature reserve is well-known as a Bigfoot dwelling place.

Beijing organized several high-profile searches for the creature in the '80s and '90s, but no hard evidence of his existence was found, says AFP.

The report says the six witnesses describe what they saw as a grayish "mythical ape-like animal," about five feet tall with shoulder-length black hair.

One of the six, radio reporter Shang Zhengmin, says Bigfoot was spotted as he and his companions took a left turn on a mountain road, the news agency reported. He said the "ape-like" animal was moving fast on the road and by the time the vehicle finished the turn, the creature had disappeared.

The occupants of the vehicle then stopped and reportedly discovered several footprints about 30 centimeters long.

The AFP report says the group also claimed to have discovered a patch of "foul smelling urine-like liquid" on the road where the creature was seen.

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