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But the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction says now that the State Department can't account for "most" of the $1.2 BILLION it gave to DynCorp. They were expected to take over the duties of Blackwater, if/when Blackwater is kicked out of Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21428395/

But we can't afford to expand S-CHIP and give poor kids health insurance. :mad:
 
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ff said:
But the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction says now that the State Department can't account for "most" of the $1.2 BILLION it gave to DynCorp. They were expected to take over the duties of Blackwater, if/when Blackwater is kicked out of Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21428395/

But we can't afford to expand S-CHIP and give poor kids health insurance. :mad:

More than three fourths of voters (78%) expect the issue of Government Ethics and Corruption to have a Very Important impact on their vote. Another 18% regard it as at least Somewhat Important, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports tracking poll of Election 2008 Issues.
That's even more voters than gave the issue top priority in our August poll (74%). As they did then, but now by a slightly bigger margin, voters trust Democrats more (40%) than Republicans (28%) to deal with corruption.

Health Care currently tops headlines as Hillary Clinton rolls out her latest national health care plan, and Democrats have the edge here 51% to 35%—a bigger advantage than they have on any other issue. Our tracking poll finds that it's Very Important to 67% of voters.

For the second straight week, a Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 64% of Americans would like to see U.S. troops brought home from Iraq within a year. Prior to this week’s results, support for bringing the troops home had increased in three consecutive weeks.

Twenty-eight percent (28%) who want the troops brought home immediately.
 

Mike

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Hanta Yo said:
But we can't afford to expand S-CHIP and give poor kids health insurance.

Expand it to include illegal immigrants kids :? :mad:

Or to those making over $83,000.00 per year.

400% over the poverty line?

Why not just make it free for everyone. :roll:
 
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Hanta Yo said:
But we can't afford to expand S-CHIP and give poor kids health insurance.

Expand it to include illegal immigrants kids :? :mad:

That shouldn't/wouldn't be in the country if we had someone with balls in the White House that wasn't tied to the Mexican Cartels :???: :( :mad:

These are the folks that have bankrupt and closed many hospitals in the nation because they don't pay....I guess you'd rather see the hospitals close-- or just keep funding them out of the States taxpayers pockets which have some states on the verge of bankruptcy because of the social costs..... :???:
 
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Newswires report that, "The government's Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, known as LIHEAP, only has enough funding to cover 16 percent of the 38 million poor households eligible for the program." This means that seven out of ten families who apply for heating assistance this year may be turned away.

Bush asks for $46 billion more for wars
Request pushes overall spending on security to $670 billion for fiscal '08

By David Wood | Sun reporter
October 23, 2007

WASHINGTON - The price tag for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan took an upward jolt yesterday as President Bush asked for an additional $46 billion, raising the cost to $16.3 billion per month for fiscal 2008.

The request, which would make the conflicts the most expensive since World War II, comes after several months of brightening news from Iraq, including a marked decline in violence and in U.S. battle casualties. But it underscores the administration's conviction that, even with some troop reductions next year, this will be a long fight.

The request raises overall national security spending to $670 billion for the current fiscal year, which began Oct. 1.

Cafferty summed it up yesterday on TV-- and it is the reason you will see so many Dems in D.C. in 09 that you will have to hunt to find a Repub....


Cafferty Denounces More Money for Wars But None for Poor Families

By Brent Baker | October 23, 2007 - 04:28 ET
CNN's Jack Cafferty used one of his Monday “Cafferty File” segments to denounce the Bush administration for opposing the expansion of the S-CHIP program, and now threatening to veto spending for home energy assistance, while pushing more money for Iraq. An exasperated Cafferty: “No money for kids' health insurance, no money to help poor families pay their heating bills, but President Bush wants $190 billion additional for 2008 for his wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.” Cafferty contended “thirty million of the poorest Americans will be left in the cold this winter because a government program that's supposed to help pay their heating bills doesn't have enough money” and yet “the Bush administration wants to cut the program's budget. No heat for the poor people. Starting to sound familiar, isn't it? Remember a couple of weeks ago President Bush went into a closed office, shut the door, no reporters, vetoed a health bill to provide health insurance for kids.”

Cafferty's loaded question in the 7pm EDT hour of The Situation Room:


When it comes to American citizens, you really have to wonder what President Bush's priorities are. Where do the citizens of this country fit into his game plan? Hundred and ninety billion for the wars, cut the heating bill budget, veto the kids' health insurance. The question is the Bush administration doesn't have enough money to help poor families pay for heat this winter, but they want $190 billion for the Iraq war. What's your reaction to that?

Audit: ‘Disarray’ on $1.2 billion Iraq contract
U.S. can’t account for DynCorp performance in training police, report says
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Hanta Yo said:
But we can't afford to expand S-CHIP and give poor kids health insurance.

Expand it to include illegal immigrants kids :? :mad:

That shouldn't/wouldn't be in the country if we had someone with balls in the White House that wasn't tied to the Mexican Cartels :???: :( :mad:

These are the folks that have bankrupt and closed many hospitals in the nation because they don't pay....I guess you'd rather see the hospitals close-- or just keep funding them out of the States taxpayers pockets which have some states on the verge of bankruptcy because of the social costs..... :???:

But OT, the Dems aren't offering and/or backing anything to counteract the Meskin invasion either.

They are hiding and waiting for Bush to start it and piss off the Meskins and swing ALL the votes their way.

This illegal alien invasion ain't gonna be stopped by anyone who needs/wants the votes.

This is the perfect example of a "Conundrum". :lol:
 

backhoeboogie

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Mike said:
This illegal alien invasion ain't gonna be stopped by anyone who needs/wants the votes.

Don't forget the crooks here. Refusing to marry is just fine but woman on welfare with 4 kids and live-in father earns 6 figures is just plain wrong. Hillary is officially on record wanting help for those welfare kids.

This all just punishes the kids that really need help. Hillary could care less about all of them in reality.
 
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Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Hanta Yo said:
Expand it to include illegal immigrants kids :? :mad:

That shouldn't/wouldn't be in the country if we had someone with balls in the White House that wasn't tied to the Mexican Cartels :???: :( :mad:

These are the folks that have bankrupt and closed many hospitals in the nation because they don't pay....I guess you'd rather see the hospitals close-- or just keep funding them out of the States taxpayers pockets which have some states on the verge of bankruptcy because of the social costs..... :???:

But OT, the Dems aren't offering and/or backing anything to counteract the Meskin invasion either.

They are hiding and waiting for Bush to start it and p*** off the Meskins and swing ALL the votes their way.

This illegal alien invasion ain't gonna be stopped by anyone who needs/wants the votes.

This is the perfect example of a "Conundrum". :lol:

But the Repubs have had control of the Congress for 12 years- AND DID NOTHING-- and they had control of the White House and Congress for 6 years -AND DID NOTHING..

How many Mexican laborers do you think will end up being Republicans :???:
Hell- that is the reason the Dems wanted the Bush/Kennedy amnesty bill- so they could pick up that many more LEGAL voters....

I can not believe GW's true concern is Homeland Security and stopping the terrorists in US, as long as he still allows millions of illegal invaders to yearly enter the country- and armed insurgents to carry in thousands of pounds of contraband of all types of material.....And he has been authorized to stop this-- and has the funding...Last I heard he built 18 miles of a 700 mile authorized border fence-- that tells me a lot :roll: :???:

True border security could not only lower the terrorist risk-but also fight this war on drugs that Repubs have been tooting their horns about since Nixon days...

And until GW does something about our Border Security-and the millions of illegal invaders in our country (unknown how many of which are terrorists coming in every day)- the excuse of protecting us from terrorists by fighting a war in Iraq will be a phoney excuse to me.....
 
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Mike said:
Like I said.

NO POLITICIAN ON EITHER SIDE IS GOING TO FIX IT.

Too much at stake for the party. :shock:

GW is supposed to be past the piddly politician status-- He is supposed to be the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA- and swore an oath to uphold the laws and constitution of those United States...

And one section of that Constitution calls for the President to "protect our borders from foreign invaders"...A job-- for some reason-- he refuses to do....

I supported and voted for the man-- but I refuse- after seeing so many lies and deception to be a blind follower....

To my eyes and to the eyes of much of the nation anymore. he has put helping his corporate elite buddies stuff their pockets- either thru use of "semi-slave" illegal labor, drugs, war contract profitteering, importing uninspected tainted/hazardous food and products, etc., etc. above the health, safety, and living standard of the average citizen.....


And the argument that we can't "afford" the Dems or Hitlery or Obama has become pretty weak--- after you see the amount of money GW and the Republican Congress spent... A "Drunken Sailor" couldn't have spent it faster than they did-- giving us a $9 Trillion dollar Debt......

I'm not saying I want the Dems in office- but I, like many, are starting to believe the Dems might at least put it back in America- rather than spending it on foreign war contracts to foreign contractors all over the world....
 

Mike

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GW is supposed to be past the piddly politician status-- He is supposed to be the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA- and swore an oath to uphold the laws and constitution of those United States...

And so is each and every House member and Senate member.


I don't suppose you remember the "Chinagate" incident? Where was your outrage then? Talking about selling the U.S. out. :roll:

I don't like what's going on in politics anymore than you do, but NO POLITICIAN in the USA is willing to tackle the immigration problem except Duncan Hunter.[/quote]
 
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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Like I said.

NO POLITICIAN ON EITHER SIDE IS GOING TO FIX IT.

Too much at stake for the party. :shock:

GW is supposed to be past the piddly politician status-- He is supposed to be the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA- and swore an oath to uphold the laws and constitution of those United States...

And one section of that Constitution calls for the President to "protect our borders from foreign invaders"...A job-- for some reason-- he refuses to do....

I supported and voted for the man-- but I refuse- after seeing so many lies and deception to be a blind follower....

To my eyes and to the eyes of much of the nation anymore. he has put helping his corporate elite buddies stuff their pockets- either thru use of "semi-slave" illegal labor, drugs, war contract profitteering, importing uninspected tainted/hazardous food and products, etc., etc. above the health, safety, and living standard of the average citizen.....


And the argument that we can't "afford" the Dems or Hitlery or Obama has become pretty weak--- after you see the amount of money GW and the Republican Congress spent... A "Drunken Sailor" couldn't have spent it faster than they did-- giving us a $9 Trillion dollar Debt......

I'm not saying I want the Dems in office- but I, like many, are starting to believe the Dems might at least put it back in America- rather than spending it on foreign war contracts to foreign contractors all over the world....

Wow! :D
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Like I said.

NO POLITICIAN ON EITHER SIDE IS GOING TO FIX IT.

Too much at stake for the party. :shock:

GW is supposed to be past the piddly politician status-- He is supposed to be the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA- and swore an oath to uphold the laws and constitution of those United States...

And one section of that Constitution calls for the President to "protect our borders from foreign invaders"...A job-- for some reason-- he refuses to do....

I supported and voted for the man-- but I refuse- after seeing so many lies and deception to be a blind follower....

To my eyes and to the eyes of much of the nation anymore. he has put helping his corporate elite buddies stuff their pockets- either thru use of "semi-slave" illegal labor, drugs, war contract profitteering, importing uninspected tainted/hazardous food and products, etc., etc. above the health, safety, and living standard of the average citizen.....


And the argument that we can't "afford" the Dems or Hitlery or Obama has become pretty weak--- after you see the amount of money GW and the Republican Congress spent... A "Drunken Sailor" couldn't have spent it faster than they did-- giving us a $9 Trillion dollar Debt......

I'm not saying I want the Dems in office- but I, like many, are starting to believe the Dems might at least put it back in America- rather than spending it on foreign war contracts to foreign contractors all over the world....

They have won you over and you have been "Stooged".

Nothing will change unless we completely clean house in Washington.
 
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Mike said:
Nothing will change unless we completely clean house in Washington.

So does that mean you'll be voting Dem in the next national election? :shock:
 

Mike

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ff said:
Mike said:
Nothing will change unless we completely clean house in Washington.

So does that mean you'll be voting Dem in the next national election? :shock:

And take the chickenhouse away from the Foxes and turn it over to the Wolves? :lol:

We're not voting for good and bad here. We're voting for the lesser of the two evils.

No. I don't think that voting with Jesse, Al, and their gang, like you will, will help fix the situation. :roll:
 
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They have won you over and you have been "Stooged".

Nothing will change unless we completely clean house in Washington.

I agree about the whole house cleaning needed...Some credibility back to our leaders would be great...

But- I'm not stooged-- just no longer buying GW's snow job...Just too much info coming out now- from his former Generals, cabinet members, FBI director, etc. etc. showing that he/the Administration have been deceiving the public-- and he has lost his credibility with me.....

And its not only me...A while ago between inspections, I had a chance to eat lunch at one of the nicer restaurants...The local "red hat" ladies were having their regular luncheon...About 20 ladies 60+ in age that have their little society....We were sitting in the table next to them and we could clearly hear what they were talking about...

First they were talking about the economy- gas prices- and some of the stores that had closed and how ugly front street looks with all the empty business's-- But this was just after Bush had made his latest WWIII speach about Iran-- and thats all they ended up talking about-- and how GW was a warmonger that was going to drag them into this WWIII....I know that several of these ladies are life long Repubs-as a couple had even been local office holders as Repubs-- one was a former County Commissioner...

But these ladies were scared....Scared to death of GW Bush !!!! He no longer has any credibility with the average person....

One of them made a comment I remember my Dad used to say-- but haven't heard in a long time-- "Democrats start wars, Republicans keep us out"--then the comment something to the effect "but that sure doesn't fit the Republican party anymore"....
 
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Mike said:
ff said:
Mike said:
Nothing will change unless we completely clean house in Washington.

So does that mean you'll be voting Dem in the next national election? :shock:

And take the chickenhouse away from the Foxes and turn it over to the Wolves? :lol:

We're not voting for good and bad here. We're voting for the lesser of the two evils.

No. I don't think that voting with Jesse, Al, and their gang, like you will, will help fix the situation. :roll:

So when you say we need to completely clean house in Washington, you mean everyone except your representatives? Sounds like typical hot air from a Republican.
 

Mike

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ff said:
Mike said:
ff said:
So does that mean you'll be voting Dem in the next national election? :shock:

And take the chickenhouse away from the Foxes and turn it over to the Wolves? :lol:

We're not voting for good and bad here. We're voting for the lesser of the two evils.

No. I don't think that voting with Jesse, Al, and their gang, like you will, will help fix the situation. :roll:

So when you say we need to completely clean house in Washington, you mean everyone except your representatives? Sounds like typical hot air from a Republican.

No. I meant COMPLETELY clean house. If we were to move everyone out of Washington and start all over, I feel we would all be better off.

But it won't happen. :mad:
 
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