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not sure what to think...help me out!!

ranchwife

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a little "light" reading for ya...let me know what you think and if any of you have ever heard of this guy before....after I read this, I actually felt sick to my stomach!!!

http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message.htm
 

Mrs.Greg

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Ranchwife,I started reading it,Gregs not home and I have to go work nightshift in hour, with one other girl....thought best to wait until tommrow to finish it :oops:
 

ranchwife

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Mrs.Greg said:
Ranchwife,I started reading it,Gregs not home and I have to go work nightshift in hour, with one other girl....thought best to wait until tommrow to finish it :oops:

I understand----10 years of 12 hour night shifts!! Good luck to ya tonight!! :wink:
 

Jinglebob

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I read it. Never heard of this guy before.

Very compelling and who knows, with the way some are acting in this country, it could all come true. Sad.
 

T3023

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ranchwife said:
a little "light" reading for ya...let me know what you think and if any of you have ever heard of this guy before....after I read this, I actually felt sick to my stomach!!!

http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message.htm



We were working on something when we saw your post. After reading this, I couldn't help but notice how similar these two pieces of work were!


The attached analysis, entitled PROJECT MEGIDDO, is an FBI strategic assessment of the potential for domestic terrorism in the United States undertaken in anticipation of or response to the arrival of the new millennium.

Project Megiddo





The roots of the Christian Identity movement can be traced back to British-Israelism, the conviction that the British are the lineal descendants of the “ten lost tribes” of Israel. It is a belief that existed for some time before it became a movement in the second half of the 19th century. The writings of John Wilson helped to extend the idea of British-Israelism to Anglo-Israelism, which included other Teutonic peoples -- mostly northern European peoples from Germany, Italy, France and Switzerland. British-Israelism was brought to America in the early part of the 1920s, where it remained decentralized until the 1930s. At that time, the movement underwent the final transformation to become what we know as Christian Identity, at which time its ties to the original English movement were cut and it became distinctly American.



The millennium holds special significance for many, and as this pivotal point in time approaches, the impetus for the initiation of violence becomes more acute. Several religiously motivated groups envision a quick, fiery ending in an apocalyptic battle. Others may initiate a sustained campaign of terrorism in the United States to prevent the NWO. Armed with the urgency of the millennium as a motivating factor, new clandestine groups may conceivably form to engage in violence toward the U.S. Government or its citizens.

Wesley Swift is considered the single most significant figure in the early years of the Christian Identity movement in the United States. He popularized it in the right-wing by “combining British-Israelism, a demonic anti-Semitism, and political extremism.” [21] He founded his own church in California in the mid 1940s where he could preach this ideology. In addition, he had a daily radio broadcast in California during the 1950s and 60s, through which he was able to proclaim his ideology to a large audience. With Swift’s efforts, the message of his church spread, leading to the creation of similar churches throughout the country. In 1957, the name of his church was changed to The Church of Jesus Christ Christian, which is used today by Aryan Nations (AN) churches.





Most importantly, this analysis clearly shows that perceptions matter. The perceptions of the leaders and followers of extremist organizations will contribute much toward the ultimate course of action they choose. For example, in-depth analysis of Y2K compliancy on the part of various key sectors that rely on computers has determined that, despite a generally positive outlook for overall compliance, there will be problem industries and minor difficulties and inconveniences. [1] If they occur, these inconveniences are likely to cause varying responses by the extreme fringes. Members of various militia groups, for example, have identified potentially massive power failures as an indication of a United Nations-directed NWO takeover. While experts have indicated that only minor brownouts will occur, various militias are likely to perceive such minor brownouts as indicative of a larger conspiracy. [2]


The view of what Armageddon will be varies among Christian Identity believers. Some contend there will be a race war in which millions will die; others believe that the United Nations, backed by Jewish representatives of the anti-Christ, will take over the country and promote a New World Order. One Christian Identity interpretation is that white Christians have been chosen to watch for signs of the impending war in order to warn others. They are to then physically struggle with the forces of evil against sin and other violations of God’s law (i.e., race-mixing and internationalism); many will perish, and some of God’s chosen will be forced to wear the Mark of the Beast to participate in business and commerce. After the final battle is ended and God’s kingdom is established on earth, only then will the Aryan people be recognized as the one and true Israel.

Christian Identity also believes in the inevitability of the end of the world and the Second Coming of Christ. It is believed that these events are part of a cleansing process that is needed before Christ’s kingdom can be established on earth. During this time, Jews and their allies will attempt to destroy the white race using any means available. The result will be a violent and bloody struggle -- a war, in effect -- between God’s forces, the white race, and the forces of evil, the Jews and nonwhites. Significantly, many adherents believe that this will be tied into the coming of the new millennium.

Christian Identity adherents believe that God will use his chosen race as his weapons to battle the forces of evil. Christian Identity followers believe they are among those chosen by God to wage this battle during Armageddon and they will be the last line of defense for the white race and Christian America. To prepare for these events, they engage in survivalist and paramilitary training, storing foodstuffs and supplies, and caching weapons and ammunition. They often reside on compounds located in remote areas.

Nevertheless, Christian Identity is the most unifying theology for a number of these diverse groups and one widely adhered to by white supremacists. It is a belief system that provides its members with a religious basis for racism and an ideology that condones violence against non-Aryans. This doctrine allows believers to fuse religion with hate, conspiracy theories, and apocalyptic fear of the future. Christian Identity-inspired millennialism has a distinctly racist tinge in the belief that Armageddon will be a race war of Aryans against Jews and nonwhites. The potential difficulty society may face due to the Y2K computer glitch is considered by a number of Christian Identity adherents to be the perfect event upon which to instigate a race war.


A relatively new tenet gaining popularity among Christian Identity believers justifies the use of violence if it is perpetrated in order to punish violators of God’s law, as found in the Bible and interpreted by Christian Identity ministers and adherents. This includes killing interracial couples, abortionists, prostitutes and homosexuals, burning pornography stores, and robbing banks and perpetrating frauds to undermine the “usury system.” Christian Identity adherents engaging in such behavior are referred to as Phineas Priests or members of the Phineas Priesthood. This is a very appealing concept to Christian Identity’s extremist members who believe they are being persecuted by the Jewish-controlled U.S. government and society and/or are eagerly preparing for Armageddon. Among adherents today, the Phineas Priesthood is viewed as a call to action or a badge of honor


The WCOTC presents a recent example of violence perpetrated by a white supremacist in order to bring about a race war. The major creed upon which Ben Klassen founded the religion is that one's race is his religion. Aside from this central belief, its ideology is similar to many Christian Identity groups in the conviction that there is a Jewish conspiracy in control of the federal government, international banking, and the media. They also dictate that RAHOWA, a racial holy war, is destined to ensue to rid the world of Jews and “mud races.” In the early 1990s, there was a dramatic increase in membership due to the growing belief in the Apocalypse and that RAHOWA was imminent.


http://www.cesnur.org/testi/FBI_006.htm#Anchor-III-43266



I thought this was interesting. It looks as though the NWO was being implemented long before 911, and the policing of the states indicates race wars ..... believing there will be rioters.

You found the story and here is their plan.
 

Mrs.Greg

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Mrs.Greg said:
Ranchwife,I started reading it,Gregs not home and I have to go work nightshift in hour, with one other girl....thought best to wait until tommrow to finish it :oops:
Ok,last night when starting to read it in house alone,was kind of scaring myself about people appearing in my house,thought it was a scary story,so didn't finish reading it :oops: Today I finished it ,turns out it is a scary story in a whole different sence of the word!!
 

T3023

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They will create a problem through crisis and when they get a reaction, they will give you a solution and we will see a gradual expanded takeover by our president and his cabnet. That is why they opened all the borders. So they can create chaos. Bush says it will take time to restore order and chaos; Chaos created out of their plan, by implementing all the right calls from years of documented planning. They have set up projected reactions of the people with a police state and constructions (by Haliburton) of containment camps. "Check the offenses of the Patriot Act I / II!"

It does not make any difference if you are left, right, or in the center. We all need to be concerned about the increasing level of violence on grass roots.

Look, who stands to gain from all this fear of terrorism?
Military, Industrial complex, central banking system and all thoughs currently making money, pharmacudical companies, Corporations Halburton, (no bid contracts) and Israel or any CEO's who have investments, weapon manufactures, etc.
 

T3023

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Faster horses said:
Along that line, who the hell cares what T3023 is saying?
:shock: :x :mad:


Intelligent Minds discuss Events
Creative minds discuss Ideas
Simple minds discuss people

Eleanor Roosevelt

noun: wife of Franklin Roosevelt and a strong advocate of human rights (1884-1962)

:wink: :D
 

Red Robin

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T3023 said:
Faster horses said:
Along that line, who the hell cares what T3023 is saying?
:shock: :x :mad:


Intelligent Minds discuss Events
Creative minds discuss Ideas
Simple minds discuss people

Eleanor Roosevelt

noun: wife of Franklin Roosevelt and a strong advocate of human rights (1884-1962)

:wink: :D
My question is why would anyone quote a presidents wife which has been deceased for 40 years and act like she is relevant to the discussion. I just can't believe what some of you folks are posting and acting like it's mainstream. No wonder the Democrats can't come up with a candidate that I'd vote for. You guys need professional help. Shrinks!
 

Red Barn Angus

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So T3023, I don't follow your logic. I can see that the Muslims may want to take over the world and with their sheer numbers and violent nature they can sure cause havoc. I have also read items concerning the NWO and one central world government. Years ago it was the Tri Lateral Commission and maybe that exists today, I don't know. I also rather feel that America may have a softer "underbelly" than it did in years past. I am from the Viet Nam era so that gives you some idea of my age and I know that the older generation always is concerned that the younger generation has gone to hell in a hand basket. Generally the older generation has been wrong on that. But the part I really do not understand about your postings is that there is some all encompassing secret plan by Bush and his cronies to enslave the population and create some mega power structure for Bush and Haliburton, etc. This makes absolutely no sense. If for no other reason, that would completely eliminate the economic engine that runs this country and a good deal of the world. If that happened there would be no commerce and no economic activity and all these enslaved folks (you and me) would be just a burden to the mega power structure. Your thread makes no sense whatever from an economic standpoint and little from a political standpoint as, without the economic engine, there would be no political power. I think you need to re-think your position. I'm not so sure that a Ranchers site is the proper forum for your thoughts anyway.
 

T3023

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I think you need to re-think your position. I'm not so sure that a Ranchers site is the proper forum for your thoughts anyway.[/quote]


Maybe your right!
It's to much for them
:roll:
 

Faster horses

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It isn't that "It's too much for them" it is that

...YOU ARE TOO MUCH FOR US!

But you are having way too much fun enlightening us of all the
conspiracys against us...to leave now.
 

T3023

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Faster horses said:
Discussion you say? Discussion? All I've seen from you, T, is mostly cuttin' and pastin'.


Well.....the goal is to do away with 80% of the population because they are contaminating the "Earth." Trying to discuss any of this with you is what you would like me to do so you can argue and call people names and make snide hateful remarks. So I cut and paste the information so you can read it for your self if you chose to do so and if not that is your freedom to choose not. I am not trying to force my opinion on you, by arguing with you about it; all I am doing is cutting and pasting it for those to read. Although you don't have to read it, but there are those that will. This country is in a "CRISIS!"


http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message.htm

It was not the horrors of his revelations about my grandchildren that had shaken me the most deeply, shaken me to the core of my core, but rather the the Time Traveler’s last three words. Three words that any Replayer or time traveler visiting here from a century or more from now would react to first and most emotionally – three words I will not share here in this piece nor ever plan to share, at least until everyone on Earth knows them – three words that will keep me awake nights for months and years to come.

Three words.

"Crisis, Reaction, Solution"
 

Red Robin

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T3023 said:
Faster horses said:
Discussion you say? Discussion? All I've seen from you, T, is mostly cuttin' and pastin'.


Well.....the goal is to do away with 80% of the population because they are contaminating the "Earth." Trying to discuss any of this with you is what you would like me to do so you can argue and call people names and make snide hateful remarks. So I cut and paste the information so you can read it for your self if you chose to do so and if not that is your freedom to choose not. I am not trying to force my opinion on you, by arguing with you about it; all I am doing is cutting and pasting it for those to read. Although you don't have to read it, but there are those that will. This country is in a "CRISIS!"


http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message.htm

It was not the horrors of his revelations about my grandchildren that had shaken me the most deeply, shaken me to the core of my core, but rather the the Time Traveler’s last three words. Three words that any Replayer or time traveler visiting here from a century or more from now would react to first and most emotionally – three words I will not share here in this piece nor ever plan to share, at least until everyone on Earth knows them – three words that will keep me awake nights for months and years to come.

Three words.

"Crisis, Reaction, Solution"
Friend , you need to get a grip on reality. There is no such thing as time travel.
 

T3023

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Katrina Posted and I'm passing it on!


HOW TO DESTROY THE AMERICAN DREAM


We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that
context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an
immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity
by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college
professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book,
Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal - was
destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across
the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and
gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat
spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United
States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too
self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard
to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold
Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An
autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

"First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or
multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can
survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing
languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual;
however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical
scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and
bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil,
tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Mal aysia, and Lebanon all face
crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not
independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an
ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and
Corsicans.".

Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism'
and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an
article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural
differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and
Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by
the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without
much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As
Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent
success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been
achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once
dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left
with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would
encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would
replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is
important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in
America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing
their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the
least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated,
undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second
underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high. Sch ool."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big
foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would
invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.'
I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the
fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all
minority failure on the majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual
citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity
over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse
people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when
they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is
against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to
keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed
that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and
literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the
Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all
these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local
patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions.
Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical
reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus'. Instead of the 'Unum,'
we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo
to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word
similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and
paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and
debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural co untry, having
established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine
of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our
immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has
been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every
individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions
of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow.
Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor Victor
Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan
to destroy America. If you feel America. deserves to be destroyed, don't
read that book.".

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous
cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room
knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly,
darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being
suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our
educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that
practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.'
American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a
Third World in. America - take note of California and other states - to
date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of
George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in
the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and
"Ignorance is strength.".

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the
conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply
in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster
stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and
destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

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