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Obama a member of Socialist party.

Sandhusker

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By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Excerpt from New Party publication (Courtesy New Zeal blog)
JERUSALEM – Evidence has emerged that Sen. Barack Obama belonged to a socialist political party that sought to elect members to public office with the aim of moving the Democratic Party far leftward to ultimately form a new political party with a socialist agenda.

Several blogs, including Powerline, previously documented that while running for the Illinois state Senate in 1996 as a Democrat, Obama actively sought and received the endorsement of the socialist-oriented New Party, with some blogs claiming Obama was a member of the controversial party.

The New Party, formed by members of the Democratic Socialists for America and leaders of an offshoot of the Community Party USA, was an electoral alliance that worked alongside the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. The New Party's aim was to help elect politicians to office who espouse its policies.

Among New Party members was linguist and radical activist Noam Chomsky.

Obama's campaign has responded to the allegations, denying the presidential candidate was ever a member of the New Party.

But the New Zeal blog dug up print copies of the New Party News, the party's official newspaper, which show Obama posing with New Party leaders, list him as a New Party member and include quotes from him.

The party's Spring 1996 newspaper boasted: "New Party members won three other primaries this Spring in Chicago: Barack Obama (State Senate), Michael Chandler (Democratic Party Committee) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary). The paper quoted Obama saying "these victories prove that small 'd' democracy can work."

The newspaper lists other politicians it endorsed who were not members but specifies Obama as a New Party member.

New Ground, the newsletter of Chicago's Democratic Socialists for America, reported in its July/August 1996 edition that Obama attended a New Party membership meeting April 11, 1996, in which he expressed his gratitude for the group's support and "encouraged NPers (New Party members) to join in his task forces on Voter Education and Voter Registration."

Becoming a New Party member requires some effort on behalf of the politician. Candidates must be approved by the party's political committee and, once approved, must sign a contract mandating they will have a "visible and active relationship" with the party.

The New Party, established in 1992, took advantage of what was known as electoral "fusion," which enabled candidates to run on two tickets simultaneously, attracting voters from both parties. But the New Party went defunct in 1998, one year after fusion was halted by the Supreme Court.

Following the initial reports of Obama's purported membership in the New Party, Obama associate and former Chicago New Party activist Carl Davidson posted a statement on several blogs claiming his former party was not socialist, but he admitted it worked with ACORN.

"[The New Party] was a pragmatic party of 'small d democracy' mainly promoting economic reforms like the living wage and testing the fusion tactic, common in many countries but only operational in New York in the U.S. The main trend within it was ACORN, an Alinskyist outfit, which is hardly Marxist," wrote Davidson.

But the socialist goals of the New Party were enumerated on its old website.

Among the New Party's stated objectives were "full employment, a shorter work week, and a guaranteed minimum income for all adults; a universal 'social wage' to include such basic benefits as health care, child care, vacation time, and lifelong access to education and training; a systematic phase-in of comparable worth and like programs to ensure gender equity."

The New Party stated it also sought "the democratization of our banking and financial system – including popular election of those charged with public stewardship of our banking system, worker-owner control over their pension assets, community-controlled alternative financial institutions."

Many of the New Party's founding members were Democratic Socialists for America leaders and members of Committees of Correspondence, a breakaway of the Communist Party USA. Obama attended several DSA events and meetings, including a DSA-sponsored town hall meeting Feb. 25, 1996, entitled "Employment and Survival in Urban America." He sought and received an endorsement from the DSA.

According to DSA documents, the New Party worked with ACORN to promote its candidates. ACORN, convicted in massive, nationwide voter fraud cases, has been a point of controversy for Obama over the presidential candidate's ties to the group.

In 1995, the DSA's New Ground newsletter stated, "In Chicago, the New Party's biggest asset and biggest liability is ACORN.

"Like most organizations, ACORN is a mixed bag. On one hand, in Chicago, ACORN is a group that attempts to organize some of the most depressed communities in the city. Chicago organizers for ACORN and organizers for SEIU Local 880 have been given modest monthly recruitment quotas for new New Party members. On the other hand, like most groups that depend on canvassing for fundraising, it's easy enough to find burned out and disgruntled former employees. And ACORN has not had the reputation for being interested in coalition politics – until recently and, happily, not just within the New Party."
 

kolanuraven

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Sandhusker said:
If you can refute it, be my guest. Otherwise, put your head back in the sand and continue "sinning by silence".



Really....now it's gotten to be kind fun watching you chase your tail.


You're kinda like that poor dog in the video that Mournful Tune posted in Horses & Dogs.
 

Sandhusker

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You offer nothing but denial. You're like a yap dog barking on the porch - just making noise.

What's wrong with the article, other than you don't like what it says?
 
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Anonymous

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kolanuraven said:
Sandhusker said:
If you can refute it, be my guest. Otherwise, put your head back in the sand and continue "sinning by silence".



Really....now it's gotten to be kind fun watching you chase your tail.

It really is....But its so much more fun watching them make all kinds of excuses for their chosen Champions same type actions-- like McCains panderings to La Raza- or the fact he was LaRaza's "man in Washington" and was the key spokesman at their convention seeking their endorsement....A terrorist anti-American group that was seeking the overthrowal of the country.... :roll: :wink: :lol: :p
 

Sandhusker

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The topic here is Obama being a member of the Socialist New Party. If anybody can refute it, the floor is yours. If you want to talk about Bush, start a new thread.

So, what do you Liberals think of Obama joining and pandering to aSocialist party?
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
The topic here is Obama being a member of the Socialist New Party. If anybody can refute it, the floor is yours. If you want to talk about Bush, start a new thread.

So, what do you Liberals think of Obama joining and pandering to aSocialist party?

So since Obama went to a Socialist meeting seeking votes- and you say that makes him a socialist-- then McCains attending the LaRaza meetings and seeking votes makes him a terrorist anarchist-- right :???:

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander....
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
The topic here is Obama being a member of the Socialist New Party. If anybody can refute it, the floor is yours. If you want to talk about Bush, start a new thread.

So, what do you Liberals think of Obama joining and pandering to aSocialist party?

So since Obama went to a Socialist meeting seeking votes- and you say that makes him a socialist-- then McCains attending the LaRaza meetings and seeking votes makes him a terrorist anarchist-- right :???:

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander....

WRIGGLE again and fail to answer the question, :roll: :roll:
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
The topic here is Obama being a member of the Socialist New Party. If anybody can refute it, the floor is yours. If you want to talk about Bush, start a new thread.

So, what do you Liberals think of Obama joining and pandering to aSocialist party?

So since Obama went to a Socialist meeting seeking votes- and you say that makes him a socialist-- then McCains attending the LaRaza meetings and seeking votes makes him a terrorist anarchist-- right :???:

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander....

No, I'd say that just attending a Socialist meeting would make him sympathetic to their cause and that would be something that should shatter the notion that he's a moderate. It would also raise the question of what he would have to offer Socialists. However, you missed what makes him a Socialist - joining; "But the New Zeal blog dug up print copies of the New Party News, the party's official newspaper, which show Obama posing with New Party leaders, list him as a New Party member and include quotes from him.
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
The topic here is Obama being a member of the Socialist New Party. If anybody can refute it, the floor is yours. If you want to talk about Bush, start a new thread.

So, what do you Liberals think of Obama joining and pandering to aSocialist party?

So since Obama went to a Socialist meeting seeking votes- and you say that makes him a socialist-- then McCains attending the LaRaza meetings and seeking votes makes him a terrorist anarchist-- right :???:

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander....

No, I'd say that just attending a Socialist meeting would make him sympathetic to their cause and that would be something that should shatter the notion that he's a moderate. It would also raise the question of what he would have to offer Socialists. However, you missed what makes him a Socialist - joining; "But the New Zeal blog dug up print copies of the New Party News, the party's official newspaper, which show Obama posing with New Party leaders, list him as a New Party member and include quotes from him.

Sister Sarah was listed in a newspaper article and picture as being a member of the radical secessionist Alaska Independence Party (that her husband was a card carrying member of) too...Pictures showed her giving speeches to the group- and seeking their endorsement and support...Does that mean she was a member :???:

Does cohabitating with a AIP party member make her an anti government anarchist :???:
 

Mike

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Young Democratic Socialists Update: November 12, 2008

A Referendum on Socialism?


At a John McCain rally in St. Louis, Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) told the crowd that the 2008 election was ?a referendum on socialism.? If only that were true. Yet Obama?s victory does create an opportunity for us during this post-election period to keep the dialogue about socialism alive. Writing letters to your school and local papers is an excellent way to explain our politics and make the point that a right-wing defeat is only a partial step towards social justice.

The Young Democratic Socialists have prepared sample letters you can use. Email us a [email protected] for the examples. In addition, here are a few recent articles and editorials on democratic socialism, Obama?s relation to Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), and what it means to be a socialist (as opposed to being a liberal) today.

Philip Green?s ?The Road to Socialism?? from The Nation. Dr. Green addresses how government assistance to save capitalism can hardly be considered socialism. He goes on explain ?only if the great surplus of accumulated wealth were disposed of democratically for ?the general welfare? ? reinvested or distributed as income or services ? would we be living in a socialist society.?

DSA National Director Frank Llewellyn fired back against false accusations launched by an editorial writer about DSA?s beliefs and relationship with Obama. ?Socialism is not Communism,? Llewellyn?s reply to the editorial, can be read here on Richmond Times-Dispatch.

On The Activist, you can read YDS members? thoughts as well. Adrian Bleifuss Prados? ?Hurray for the ?S? Word,? deals with why socialists need to be open and proud ? a stance that also helps liberals! Also check out David Duhalde?s ?Poorly Defined,? about the fluid meaning of socialism and the common misunderstanding of the term in the U.S.
 

hypocritexposer

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Remember those complaints about Rebulican lawn signs being vandalized.

Well this from when Obama was a "New Party" member.

New Party Icon October 1996 Update :
Running to Win : The Key Races
New Party members are busy knocking on doors, hammering down lawn signs, and phoning voters to support NP candidates this fall. Here are some of our key races:

Arkansas: The Little Rock New Party has a full slate of candidates up for election in November. LRNP steering committee member Michael Booker is running unopposed for re-election to the Arkansas State House. Two NP members - Paul Kelly and Genevieve Stewart - are running for at-large (city-wide) city council positions. And in a head-to-head battle between the New Party and the conservative right, NP member Jayne Cia faces the Arkansas state chair of Empower America (Jack Kemp and Bill Bennett's organization) for a Justice of the Peace (county board) position.

Illinois: Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary).
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
So since Obama went to a Socialist meeting seeking votes- and you say that makes him a socialist-- then McCains attending the LaRaza meetings and seeking votes makes him a terrorist anarchist-- right :???:

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander....

No, I'd say that just attending a Socialist meeting would make him sympathetic to their cause and that would be something that should shatter the notion that he's a moderate. It would also raise the question of what he would have to offer Socialists. However, you missed what makes him a Socialist - joining; "But the New Zeal blog dug up print copies of the New Party News, the party's official newspaper, which show Obama posing with New Party leaders, list him as a New Party member and include quotes from him.

Sister Sarah was listed in a newspaper article and picture as being a member of the radical secessionist Alaska Independence Party (that her husband was a card carrying member of) too...Pictures showed her giving speeches to the group- and seeking their endorsement and support...Does that mean she was a member :???:

Does cohabitating with a AIP party member make her an anti government anarchist :???:

This article is about Obama, not Sarah. If you want to talk about her, start a new thread.

The article says that Obama was a MEMBER, not just seeking NP votes, he was a MEMBER. It then provides documents that support that claim. What do you Liberals have to refute?
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
No, I'd say that just attending a Socialist meeting would make him sympathetic to their cause and that would be something that should shatter the notion that he's a moderate. It would also raise the question of what he would have to offer Socialists. However, you missed what makes him a Socialist - joining; "But the New Zeal blog dug up print copies of the New Party News, the party's official newspaper, which show Obama posing with New Party leaders, list him as a New Party member and include quotes from him.

Sister Sarah was listed in a newspaper article and picture as being a member of the radical secessionist Alaska Independence Party (that her husband was a card carrying member of) too...Pictures showed her giving speeches to the group- and seeking their endorsement and support...Does that mean she was a member :???:

Does cohabitating with a AIP party member make her an anti government anarchist :???:

This article is about Obama, not Sarah. If you want to talk about her, start a new thread.

The article says that Obama was a MEMBER, not just seeking NP votes, he was a MEMBER. It then provides documents that support that claim. What do you Liberals have to refute?

So did Sister Sarahs article--but you rightwingnuts said that wasn't the fact...Could this article be wrong too :???: :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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The article might be wrong, might be right, but it looks like the author brought supporting evidence. You Libs haven't brought anything to refute it.
 
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Sandhusker said:
The article might be wrong, might be right, but it looks like the author brought supporting evidence. You Libs haven't brought anything to refute it.

What evidence :???:
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
The topic here is Obama being a member of the Socialist New Party. If anybody can refute it, the floor is yours. If you want to talk about Bush, start a new thread.

So, what do you Liberals think of Obama joining and pandering to aSocialist party?

So since Obama went to a Socialist meeting seeking votes- and you say that makes him a socialist-- then McCains attending the LaRaza meetings and seeking votes makes him a terrorist anarchist-- right :???:

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander....

Why can they not both be wrong? :? :roll:

Why in your eyes do two wrongs make a right?

Why is it in your eyes one politician can do something wrong and that makes him someone you can not vote for, but another politician does something wrong and it is ok since the first politician did something wrong you will dismiss the second?

Sounds like you are a little loony or just wanting to start arguments, cause God knows you make no sense!
 
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