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Obama bans nearly a million American-made rifles

Faster horses

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Dear fellow American,

Did you know that Barack Obama has already banned nearly a million American made rifles?

Nearly a million rifles.

Banned by Barack Obama and his anti-gun cronies.

In a bureaucratic block the Obama Administration secretly banned the re-importation of American made M-1 Garand and Carbine rifles being stored in South Korea.

These rifles were used by the US military during the Korean War and left there after the war was over.

With one stroke of his pen, Barack Obama bypassed the Constitution and single-handedly banned nearly a million American made rifles by executive fiat.

In response, I instructed my staff to prepare a petition for you to sign to voice opposition Obama's Historic Rifle Ban.

Please click here to watch the video they created in which NAGR Director of Operations Luke O'Dell discusses this latest gun ban with M-1 Garand expert Rory Edwards.





Make no mistake, these rifles were made in America, by Americans for Americans to defend freedom on foreign shores and are greatly sought after by American shooters and collectors.

Now State Department officials claim these antique, collector rifles could be used to commit crimes.

While the radical anti-gun crowd is giddy with praise for Obama’s latest back-door gun ban, law-abiding citizens across the United States are crying foul.

These outrageous claims are a thinly veiled attempt to distract from Obama’s special interest payback to the radical anti-gun crowd. This desperate pandering must not be allowed to continue.

That’s why we’ve prepared a petition and video against Obama’s Historic Rifle Ban.

Click here to watch the video and sign the petition.

It has been common practice since the end of World War II to re-import these American made rifles from the foreign allies they were lent to after the war.

If you want to sign the petitions, try this link:
"Vision to America" <[email protected]>
 

garn

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FH, you might want to edit your post and get rid of your e-mail address, looks like you copied just a tad too much information.
 

garn

Well-known member
Faster horses said:
I sure did. :oops: Thank you so much for pointing that out!

And I can't post the link because this came to me via email.

No problem. I did a google on the title of the thread and found this article from Fox News from this past September.

More inside the link: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/01/obama-administration-reverses-course-forbids-sale-antique-m-rifles/

The South Korean government, in an effort to raise money for its military, wants to sell nearly a million antique M1 rifles that were used by U.S. soldiers in the Korean War to gun collectors in America.

The Obama administration approved the sale of the American-made rifles last year. But it reversed course and banned the sale in March – a decision that went largely unnoticed at the time but that is now sparking opposition from gun rights advocates.

A State Department spokesman said the administration's decision was based on concerns that the guns could fall into the wrong hands.
 

MO_cows

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It was a particularly stupid move. Those rifles are highly prized collector items to a lot of law abiding, tax paying, economy stimulating folks. They aren't the kind of gun that carjackers and drug thugs favor. All he did there was stifle part of the economy. The sale of those guns would have generated income tax, sales tax, etc. Not to mention the ammo sales that would have followed.
 

jingo2

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You and your ilk cherrypick morsels out of mountains of data/evidence and use those morsels to defend a claim while completely ignoring overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
 

Mike

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jingo2 said:
You and your ilk cherrypick morsels out of mountains of data/evidence and use those morsels to defend a claim while completely ignoring overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

"Overwhelming evidence to the contrary"?

Let's have it.................................................
 

Bullhauler

Well-known member
MO_cows said:
It was a particularly stupid move. Those rifles are highly prized collector items to a lot of law abiding, tax paying, economy stimulating folks. They aren't the kind of gun that carjackers and drug thugs favor. All he did there was stifle part of the economy. The sale of those guns would have generated income tax, sales tax, etc. Not to mention the ammo sales that would have followed.

Well if I was a collector and already had some of these rifles I would applaud this. Letting another million rifles into the market would pretty well flood it and make the rifles that I already owned worth alot less.
 

Larrry

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Bullhauler said:
MO_cows said:
It was a particularly stupid move. Those rifles are highly prized collector items to a lot of law abiding, tax paying, economy stimulating folks. They aren't the kind of gun that carjackers and drug thugs favor. All he did there was stifle part of the economy. The sale of those guns would have generated income tax, sales tax, etc. Not to mention the ammo sales that would have followed.

Well if I was a collector and already had some of these rifles I would applaud this. Letting another million rifles into the market would pretty well flood it and make the rifles that I already owned worth alot less.

That really has no bearing on his allowing these rifles
 

hopalong

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Bullhauler said:
MO_cows said:
It was a particularly stupid move. Those rifles are highly prized collector items to a lot of law abiding, tax paying, economy stimulating folks. They aren't the kind of gun that carjackers and drug thugs favor. All he did there was stifle part of the economy. The sale of those guns would have generated income tax, sales tax, etc. Not to mention the ammo sales that would have followed.

Well if I was a collector and already had some of these rifles I would applaud this. Letting another million rifles into the market would pretty well flood it and make the rifles that I already owned worth alot less.

Are you a collector bull humper? and really it is not about price anyway.
But in excellent basically unfired condition they are worth barely $1000.
the guns in question were used and stored, more than like;ly haviong a value of about 4 -500 bucks, so that in itself tosses you argument
right out the door
:roll: :roll:
 

Lonecowboy

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MO_cows said:
It was a particularly stupid move. Those rifles are highly prized collector items to a lot of law abiding, tax paying, economy stimulating folks. They aren't the kind of gun that carjackers and drug thugs favor. All he did there was stifle part of the economy. The sale of those guns would have generated income tax, sales tax, etc. Not to mention the ammo sales that would have followed.

I don't think you guys are reading this sign right-
nothing obama does is stupid- it might appear that way-
but every move of obama's is calculated!

Just like a magician- watch the other hand and what it's doing.
What good easy fodder for the dems- now they can "stand up to obama"
and "vote pro gun" and make all kinds of propaganda out of resisting this.
net result, some antique rifles end up in the hands of military surplus stores and collectors.

But while you were all watching this-- those"pro gun voting dems that stood up to obama" voted in kagan and sotomayer and the 2nd ammendment took a real hit. and the ones responsible will try and not be held accountable cause they "voted pro gun"
Happened just this way in MT with tester- watch and see!

Oh and see what this will do for their NRA rating!
 

Larrry

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Mike said:
jingo2 said:
You and your ilk cherrypick morsels out of mountains of data/evidence and use those morsels to defend a claim while completely ignoring overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

"Overwhelming evidence to the contrary"?

Let's have it.................................................

Jingo, ya going to answer Mikes question
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Larrry said:
Mike said:
jingo2 said:
You and your ilk cherrypick morsels out of mountains of data/evidence and use those morsels to defend a claim while completely ignoring overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

"Overwhelming evidence to the contrary"?

Let's have it.................................................

Jingo, ya going to answer Mikes question[/quote

Wagers anyone tha kolo ever comes up with anything that closely resembles an answer??
:wink: :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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Bullhauler said:
MO_cows said:
It was a particularly stupid move. Those rifles are highly prized collector items to a lot of law abiding, tax paying, economy stimulating folks. They aren't the kind of gun that carjackers and drug thugs favor. All he did there was stifle part of the economy. The sale of those guns would have generated income tax, sales tax, etc. Not to mention the ammo sales that would have followed.

Well if I was a collector and already had some of these rifles I would applaud this. Letting another million rifles into the market would pretty well flood it and make the rifles that I already owned worth alot less.

How far will you go to make excuses for your boy's inexcusable actions?
 
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Anonymous

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garn said:
Faster horses said:
I sure did. :oops: Thank you so much for pointing that out!

And I can't post the link because this came to me via email.

No problem. I did a google on the title of the thread and found this article from Fox News from this past September.

More inside the link: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/01/obama-administration-reverses-course-forbids-sale-antique-m-rifles/

The South Korean government, in an effort to raise money for its military, wants to sell nearly a million antique M1 rifles that were used by U.S. soldiers in the Korean War to gun collectors in America.

The Obama administration approved the sale of the American-made rifles last year. But it reversed course and banned the sale in March – a decision that went largely unnoticed at the time but that is now sparking opposition from gun rights advocates.

A State Department spokesman said the administration's decision was based on concerns that the guns could fall into the wrong hands.

My question to any one here is why do they belong to the South Korean Government. As far as I am concerned they would be melted down and sent to us in the form of a Kioto tractor.
 

Bullhauler

Well-known member
hopalong said:
Bullhauler said:
MO_cows said:
It was a particularly stupid move. Those rifles are highly prized collector items to a lot of law abiding, tax paying, economy stimulating folks. They aren't the kind of gun that carjackers and drug thugs favor. All he did there was stifle part of the economy. The sale of those guns would have generated income tax, sales tax, etc. Not to mention the ammo sales that would have followed.

Well if I was a collector and already had some of these rifles I would applaud this. Letting another million rifles into the market would pretty well flood it and make the rifles that I already owned worth alot less.

Are you a collector bull humper? and really it is not about price anyway.
But in excellent basically unfired condition they are worth barely $1000.
the guns in question were used and stored, more than like;ly haviong a value of about 4 -500 bucks, so that in itself tosses you argument
right out the door
:roll: :roll:

Well most people like to collect something that is rare/valuable. If you collect something that isn't rare/valuable you aren't a collector you are a hoarder. Sad to say hoppy your empty milk jug collection is just junk not a collection.
 

hopalong

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EHHHHH BULL HUMPER?????????
Looks like mihjt be worth a little more than junk :wink: :wink: :wink:

My research turned up a wealth of information. Our round shaped vintage bottles with their embossed lettering on the side were worth quite a bit more than when they were first made. Apparently, this style of vintage milk bottle was replaced by a different style around the 1930's! In the 1940's the round shaped antique milk bottles were replaced by square shaped vintage milk bottles and embossing gave way to pyroglazed, or painted labels that are heat set. Some dairies used a long bottle with a large rounded section at the top. It is thought that this bottle was made so that the cream could easily collect at the top of the bottle, and be skimmed off to use.
The embossing or the painted label usually identified the dairy, the town and the state. Some embossed antique milk bottles also have an embossed pattern around the neck of the bottle that is thought to have helped the milkman safely hold onto the bottle. Most bottles were made from clear glass, so a customer could see at a glance that the milk was still good. Colored vintage milk bottles were hardly ever used, and as such are quite rare.

Antique milk bottle collecting is a favorite pastime for many and there is a high turnover of sales for vintage bottles. Most vintage bottles are specific to a certain location as milk production and local dairies up until the mid 1950’s handled all sales.


Milk bottles were first used in the late 1800's, when milk was delivered by horse drawn cart to homes four times a day. At the close of the 19th century, the process of pasteurization was discovered and consequently milk deliveries switched to once per day. The New York Dairy Company is supposedly the first company to make glass milk bottles, although many other companies soon followed them. One of the more sought after antique milk bottles is the Original Thatcher vintage milk bottle, which was patented in 1886. Local collectors usually prefer to collect vintage milk bottles from their own area or state, with some enthusiasts seeking to find every bottle made by a specific local dairy.

As with collecting any antique or vintage items, many factors come into play when determining the value of the antique or vintage milk bottle. One of the first considerations is the actual condition of the vintage bottle. It should, as much as possible, be free from chips or cracks, and if the label has been painted on, it should be in good condition or at least legible. There is often some scuffing seen on the outside of the bottle, which results from the bottle being carried and stored in old milk bottle carriers while being stored and transported. A word of caution though, a bottle that looks too perfect may be a reproduction and not an original vintage milk bottle.

Other things that determine how much a vintage milk bottle is worth are the age of the bottle, whether it is made from colored glass or transparent glass, how common it is, and the designs on the bottle. In addition, what may fetch a very good price in one state may not be worth as much in another state. Now, however, with many antique milk bottles being auctioned online, even vintage milk bottles from the other end of the country may fetch a good price if someone is specifically seeking to build up a collection of bottles from one particular area.

Not only do collectors search for antique milk bottles, but any antique items from the milk industry are also collected. For example, it is quite common to find antique milk bottle carriers for sale on eBay or on other auction sites. Other popular items that are commonly collected, along with antique milk bottles, include antique milk bottle caps, antique milk bottle crates, antique cream bottles which are smaller than the old milk bottles and were used for cream only, and antique milk cans which were used to store larger quantities of milk or cream at the dairy.


It is not uncommon for an antique milk bottle to fetch as much as $300 or more when sold via auction, particularly if it is old, in good condition and sought after. More commonly, however, they are sold for between $20 to $50.Antique or vintage milk bottles are great fun to collect, if you are interested in old collectibles. They can often be found in second hand stores, at antique or collector's stores, and they can often turn up at county or town fairs or bazaars. Many have also been found buried in back yards or laying around in old storage sheds and barns. Rural areas are great places to look for old milk bottles, especially around places where a dairy may have been located at some time.

edited to add the fact i cut and pasted this so HUMPER wouldn't pee down his leg yelling plagerizm :D :D :D
 

Bullhauler

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First hoppy a milk jug is not the same as a milk bottle. Second it is still plagerism since you lacked the intelligence to provide a source.
 
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