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Obama "blew off" US soldiers

fff

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I know some of you will be getting this email soon. So to save you the embarrasment of being made a fool of AGAIN, here's the SNOPES link:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp

And the Army Times article.

Officer: Part of anti-Obama e-mail was wrong

By Matthew Cox and Rick Maze - Staff writers
Posted : Saturday Jul 26, 2008 9:16:22 EDT

An Army officer’s negative e-mail account of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s visit with the troops in Afghanistan that set the blogosphere ablaze prompted Army officials to correct aspects of the e-mail and resulted in a statement from the message’s author that “some of the information that was put out in my e-mail was wrong.”

The e-mail, signed by Capt. Jeffrey S. Porter at Bagram Airbase, characterized Obama’s July 19 visit with soldiers there as contrary to the positive portrayals of the mainstream press.

“As the soldiers where (sic) lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and didn’t say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the general,” the e-mail said.

Porter wrote that Obama then went straight to the base’s “Clamshell” or recreation facility to pose for “publicity pictures playing basketball” and “shunned the opportunity to talk to soldiers to thank them for their service. I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders than from one of the Senators, who wants to be the President of the United States. I just don’t understand how anyone would want him to be our Commander-in-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and our great country.”

Army Times sent an e-mail to Porter, a Utah Army National Guard member assigned to the 142nd Military Intelligence Battalion, asking if he could verify that he wrote the controversial e-mail and requesting an interview.

Porter’s reply declined the interview request, but said:

“I am writing this to ask that you delete my e-mail and not forward it, after checking my sources some of the information that was put out in my e-mail was wrong. This e-mail was meant only for my family. Please respect my wishes and delete the e-mail and if there are any blogs you have my e-mail portrayed on I would ask if you would take it down too.”

When contacted, Tiffany Porter who identified herself as his wife, said: “There were discrepancies in the e-mail, but I am not at liberty to say more.”

The Army refuted the accuracy of the account of the Obama visit.

These comments are inappropriate and factually incorrect,” Bagram spokesman Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green told the New York Daily News.

Obama didn’t play basketball at Bagram or visit the Clamshell, she said.

“We were a bit delayed ... as he took time to shake hands, speak to troops and pose for photographs,” Nielson-Green said.

Opinion aside, Obama campaign officials cited factual errors in the e-mail. Porter said Obama had gone to play basketball; Obama aides said that during the trip he only played basketball in Kuwait, not during stops in Iraq or Afghanistan.

An Obama campaign Web site, called “Fight the Smears,” labels it a “lie” that Obama refused to meet with the troops. It includes links to news stories and videos showing Obama interacting with crowds of service members as evidence.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/07/Military_blog.Obama_072508w/

It's shameful that a commissioned US military officer would lie like this. He now says his "sources" were wrong. He should be brought up on "conduct unbecoming" charges. :mad:
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
It is wrong. It is also wrong for somebody seeking to be the Commander in Chief to lie. Where is your outrage on him?

You mean lies like this- or the one where he takes credit for the new Webb sponsored GI Bill after it passed- which he actually tried to kill and was against.... :???:

On McCain’s website, they feature this quote from him about the Iranian missile tests:

It’s my understanding that this missile test was conducted by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. This is the same organization that I voted to condemn as a terrorist organization when an amendment was on the floor of the United States Senate. Senator Obama refused to vote, called it a provocative step. The fact is this is a terrorist organization and should have been branded as such.

One problem with this attack is that the vote in question — the Kyl-Lieberman amendment — was missed by McCain (who has missed more votes than any other Senator).

or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFyYwP1lrsQ

or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

or the 40 other youtube sites where he either lies or as he calls it "evolves"..... :???: :lol: :(

There is a great one out there where they've taken 25-30 quotes where he argues with himself over whether he is a Bush #2----Which actually shows he can lie just like King George :(
But I got a storm moving in- and don't have the time to search it up...
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
Looks like McCain is doing his share of flips. I'll admit the obvious.

Will any libs do the same with Obama?

I ain't a Lib- but they are both doing what 99% of the politicians do- "evolve" their policy of the day depending on what group they are talking to- and what they want to hear.....
 

nonothing

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Sandhusker said:
Looks like McCain is doing his share of flips. I'll admit the obvious.

Will any libs do the same with Obama?

I will admit that Obama flips.....At the same time he offers reasons for such flips.....In fairness to McCain,I have not been privy to any explainations he may have produced...So I wont say he has not reasoned with the voters on why he has changed an opinion...or as sandhusker calls it flipping..
 
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Sandhusker said:
Why did Obama flip on Cuba?

Why did McCain-- Why did my US Congressman Rehberg... :???: He had always been in favor of opening trade with Cuba to benefit Montana products (beef/wheat deals)-- then he flipflopped- then he just happened to get a $1000 campaign contribution from an anti relations with Cuba group... :???:
Sure smells like Rehbergs price tag is lower than NCBA's... :(

I may not get to vote for a Repub this year.... I have no Repubs running in my state congressional District- and all the county/local elections have been made nonpartisan.....

Well I'm upset at Baucus enough maybe I can vote for the Repubs 85 year old former Dem/Greenparty candidate that won the Repub primary :roll: OY VEY....
 
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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Why did Obama flip on Cuba?

Why did McCain-- Why did my US Congressman Rehberg... :???: He had always been in favor of opening trade with Cuba to benefit Montana products (beef/wheat deals)-- then he flipflopped- then he just happened to get a $1000 campaign contribution from an anti relations with Cuba group... :???:
Sure smells like Rehbergs price tag is lower than NCBA's... :(

I may not get to vote for a Repub this year.... I have no Repubs running in my state congressional District- and all the county/local elections have been made nonpartisan.....

Well I'm upset at Baucus enough maybe I can vote for the Repubs 85 year old former Dem/Greenparty candidate that won the Repub primary :roll: OY VEY....

OOPS- I was wrong... When I looked up the article- I found he does have a higher price...I guess he didn't want to be thought of as a two bit whore Congressman :roll: :wink: :( :(

Only the best for Montana crooks...

$10,500- Not bad for walking around pocket change...



"If we are going to help the Cuban people break free of the shackles of communism, then we must permit a flow of people, commerce and ideas," Rehberg said in October 2003.
For almost a year after that, Rehberg continued to vote as he had previously -- to loosen the embargo.

On July 7, 2004, Rehberg voted for an amendment that would have softened new restrictions on the shipment of gift parcels to Cuba. He also voted with embargo opponents on Sept. 21, 2004, for an amendment that would have made it easier for Cuban-Americans to visit family in the country.

But the next day, his vote abruptly shifted.

On Sept. 22, 2004, Rehberg voted the opposite way and opposed the amendment that would have lifted economic embargoes on Cuba.
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Several months later, Rehberg's campaign received $1,000 from a pro-embargo group, the U.S. Cuba Democracy Political Action Committee. Since then, the group has given him $10,500.
 

woranch

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This is not an email ......... :D





By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 17 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - Republican John McCain's campaign on Saturday sharply criticized Democratic rival Barack Obama for canceling a visit to wounded troops in Germany, contending Obama chose foreign leaders and cheering Europeans over "injured American heroes."


Obama's campaign called the accusation "wildly inappropriate." His spokesman has claimed that the visit to a military hospital in Germany was scrapped after the Pentagon raised concerns about political activity on a military base. Earlier, though, the campaign had said Obama decided the visit might be seen as inappropriate politicking. However, the Pentagon said the senator was never told not to visit.

McCain himself joined in the rebuke, saying in an interview to be aired Sunday by ABC's "This Week" that "if I had been told by the Pentagon that I couldn't visit those troops, and I was there and wanted to be there, I guarantee you, there would have been a seismic event."

McCain added, "He certainly found time to do other things."

The McCain campaign's criticism came as it grappled for another day with the intense media attention focused on Obama's tour of the Middle East and Europe. The Arizona Republican had goaded Obama into visiting Iraq and Afghanistan, then watched as Obama's meetings with the leaders of those countries and Jordan, Israel, the Palestinians, Germany, France and Great Britain dominated the political news.

Obama was flying from London to Chicago on Saturday when the McCain campaign issued a statement from Joe Repya, a retired Army colonel who said Obama had broken a commitment to visit the wounded Americans, "instead flitting from one European capital to the next."

"Several explanations were offered, none was convincing and each was at odds with the statements of American military leaders in Germany and Washington," Repya said. "For a young man so apt at playing president, Barack Obama badly misjudged the important demands of the office he seeks. Visits with world leaders and speeches to cheering Europeans shouldn't be a substitute for comforting injured American heroes."In turn, Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama and McCain both believed that troops should be honored and noted that the Illinois senator had visited troops in Iraq and Afghanistan last week and had made numerous trips to Washington's Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Obama still didn't want injured soldiers "pulled into the back-and-forth of a political campaign," Vietor said in a statement.

"That's why we imagine Sen. McCain would be surprised that his campaign released this wildly inappropriate accusation that politicizes the issue," Vietor said.

On Thursday, the day Obama gave an evening address to an estimated 200,000 people in Berlin, his campaign issued two written statements about the canceled trip to Ramstein Air Base and the military hospital in Landstuhl, Germany. In the first, no mention was made of Pentagon misgivings, only that Obama "decided out of respect for these servicemen and women that it would be inappropriate to make a stop to visit troops at a U.S. military facility as part of a trip funded by the campaign." A second statement, by retired general and Obama adviser Scott Gration, mentioned the Pentagon's involvement.

Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters Friday that a trip from Berlin to Ramstein had been planned for weeks, with Obama expecting to leave most staff and reporters at the airport while he went to the hospital to avoid appearances of a campaign event. After the Pentagon raised concerns within two days of the visit, it was scrapped, he said.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said Obama would have been required to conform to the Defense Department prohibtion of political activity, but that the senator was never told he couldn't visit the hospital.
 
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