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Obama Bungles On N. Korea

Mike

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Some outside experts link the lack of Korea experts at the highest levels of the policy process to an Obama administration North Korea policy that is widely viewed as standoffish and lethargic. Under the rubric "strategic patience," the administration has largely avoided direct interactions with Pyongyang, absent a Feb. 29, 2012 deal known as the "Leap Day Deal," under which the U.S. was going to give food aid to North Korea and receive assurances on missile and nuclear testing.

That deal, which was never clearly understood by both sides, blew up when Kim Jong Il died the day before it was to be announced. The Obama administration hasn't tried to engage North Korea in any serious way since. Experts say the Obama team, short on Korea expertise, has bungled the whole issue.

"You have a predominantly non-Korea expert group. They've been fundamentally wrong on how they thought this was going to unfold," one former North Korea negotiator told The Cable. "The idea that by standing away from North Korea, putting pressure on them when they did bad things, and thinking that was going to change their behavior was fundamentally mistaken. And now that's becoming painfully obvious. For those of us who have been involved in this for decades, this policy has been wrong headed from day one."
 
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Anonymous

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:lol: :lol: Lets see- the "hate everything- bring on anarchy crew" that bitched because Obama wanted to open a rapport with Iran are now bitchin' because Obama hasn't had enough rapport with N. Korea.... :roll: :wink: :lol: :lol:
 

Mike

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Experts say the Obama team, short on Korea expertise, has bungled the whole issue.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

By the way, you haven't commented on Buckwheat's idea of exempting U.S. taxes on corporations doing work offshore.

Can't wait to hear this one.....................................
 

Mike

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I spose you don't know that Iran has not built nor tested any nuclear weapons as of yet and the N. Koreans have not only built them but are testing them?

Plus, their stated goal is to have one that reaches the continental USA.

There's a "small" difference.............................
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
Experts say the Obama team, short on Korea expertise, has bungled the whole issue.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

By the way, you haven't commented on Buckwheat's idea of exempting U.S. taxes on corporations doing work offshore.

Can't wait to hear this one.....................................

I haven't seen any bill or proposed plan down on paper to comment about.... All I've seen is Obama's comment that he was leaving the door open and willing to consider some parts to the businessmens plan...
Leaving your mind open to consideration of all ideas is a sound way of operating to me-- but I doubt you folks would know about that... :wink:

I'll leave speculating on what you think may happen and making it into a king sized Depends conspiracy up to you "hate everything- bring on anarchy trolls" ...... :lol:
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
Mike said:
Some outside experts link the lack of Korea experts at the highest levels of the policy process to an Obama administration North Korea policy that is widely viewed as standoffish and lethargic. Under the rubric "strategic patience," the administration has largely avoided direct interactions with Pyongyang, absent a Feb. 29, 2012 deal known as the "Leap Day Deal," under which the U.S. was going to give food aid to North Korea and receive assurances on missile and nuclear testing.

That deal, which was never clearly understood by both sides, blew up when Kim Jong Il died the day before it was to be announced. The Obama administration hasn't tried to engage North Korea in any serious way since. Experts say the Obama team, short on Korea expertise, has bungled the whole issue.

"You have a predominantly non-Korea expert group. They've been fundamentally wrong on how they thought this was going to unfold," one former North Korea negotiator told The Cable. "The idea that by standing away from North Korea, putting pressure on them when they did bad things, and thinking that was going to change their behavior was fundamentally mistaken. And now that's becoming painfully obvious. For those of us who have been involved in this for decades, this policy has been wrong headed from day one."

He may not have a Korean expert on staff, but at least he had (for a while) an avowed communist as his Green Jobs Czar. Close enough for gubmint. :lol:
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Experts say the Obama team, short on Korea expertise, has bungled the whole issue.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

By the way, you haven't commented on Buckwheat's idea of exempting U.S. taxes on corporations doing work offshore.

Can't wait to hear this one.....................................

I haven't seen any bill or proposed plan down on paper to comment about.... All I've seen is Obama's comment that he was leaving the door open and willing to consider some parts to the businessmens plan...
Leaving your mind open to consideration of all ideas is a sound way of operating to me-- but I doubt you folks would know about that... :wink:

I'll leave speculating on what you think may happen and making it into a king sized Depends conspiracy up to you "hate everything- bring on anarchy trolls" ...... :lol:

I know what you thought of it in 2009:
Oldtimer
Rancher



Joined: 10 Feb 2005
Posts: 26566
Location: Northeast Montana
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject:

Oldtimer Quote:
Aint't this just GREAT!!!! Leave the country so you can find a job....

Bushenomics- and the effects of the Bush Bust- at its finest....

jody wrote:
Bet the corpate tax rate isway better in every one of those countrys

Oldtimer wrote:
How about the standard of living Yep- send all our kids and future generations to India/China/Mexico/Brazil to work--- or else we start supporting US products, US workers, US industry--and not give those importers/foreign based companies that operate in countries where they "sell you my seester for a dollar" the same benefits as US- and be able to sell their products as US just because the company is US Corporate owned- including being able to avoid many US taxes because of their foreign based status...
FLIP-FLOP :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

By the way, you haven't commented on Buckwheat's idea of exempting U.S. taxes on corporations doing work offshore.

Can't wait to hear this one.....................................

I haven't seen any bill or proposed plan down on paper to comment about.... All I've seen is Obama's comment that he was leaving the door open and willing to consider some parts to the businessmens plan...
Leaving your mind open to consideration of all ideas is a sound way of operating to me-- but I doubt you folks would know about that... :wink:

I'll leave speculating on what you think may happen and making it into a king sized Depends conspiracy up to you "hate everything- bring on anarchy trolls" ...... :lol:

I know what you thought of it in 2009:
Oldtimer
Rancher



Joined: 10 Feb 2005
Posts: 26566
Location: Northeast Montana
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject:

Oldtimer Quote:
Aint't this just GREAT!!!! Leave the country so you can find a job....

Bushenomics- and the effects of the Bush Bust- at its finest....

jody wrote:
Bet the corpate tax rate isway better in every one of those countrys

Oldtimer wrote:
How about the standard of living Yep- send all our kids and future generations to India/China/Mexico/Brazil to work--- or else we start supporting US products, US workers, US industry--and not give those importers/foreign based companies that operate in countries where they "sell you my seester for a dollar" the same benefits as US- and be able to sell their products as US just because the company is US Corporate owned- including being able to avoid many US taxes because of their foreign based status...
FLIP-FLOP :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nope Wrong again... No flip flop-- just haven't seen any plan so can't give you an opinion on something that does not exist...
 

Mike

Well-known member
Your previous comments plainly show your stance on offshore taxation.

That makes you either a flip-flopper or a liar. Or both.............................
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
obama will probably sign a bill into law, exempting offshore corporate income from taxes, in an attempt to get the Republicans to negotiate a higher tax, just like he did with the sequester.


"No, I didn't agree with it, but I was just backing the Repubs. into a corner. "

:lol:
 
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