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Obama Comes Out Against Concealed Carry

aplusmnt

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Frankk said:
aplusmnt said:
Mrs.Greg said:
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Whoa A-plus...I agree with you....I'm sorry :???:

Accidents happen and theres no way you can tell me Frankk,that my little four year old niece was hurt badly in an accident because she wasn't believing in the "right" God.......Theres only ONE God and theres no way "our" God choses to protect this one but not that one....I'm NOT debating this with you because you have NO idea how badly your statements Anger me,I may get ticked off sometimes but you blew me over the edge with your statement....you need to read OUR Bible a bit more.

I am with you, I hardly can stand to go to funerals anymore because of some of the stuff the person says. I know they are trying to help the family to feel better. But when I go to a funeral and the Pastor says God needed young kids in heaven, it burns me up! Or when it is an older person and they say it was Gods time to take them.

It also burns me up when sports people thank God for touchdowns or wins. I doubt God is picking who is going to win the Superbowl.

This one may touch more on some peoples toes even some Conservatives but I also do not think God picks sides in wars and between countries. I think some Countries like the U.S. are blessed because they were founded on principals from the bible and if you do so naturally these qualities will help you to prosper, but I don't think God decides which countries win wars, or which countries have starvation and which prosper.

There is plenty of examples in the old testament where God took sides, an easy one is Egypt, killed their entire army.

He also made Israel prosper. Remember he told them he would take other peoples homes, vineyards and wells and give it to them Joshua 24: 13 sounds kind of liberal don't it.

Lots of things were different in the Old Testament and a lot of those things died when Christ died.
 

kolanuraven

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Here it goes again. :roll: :roll: :roll:

This started out about totin' guns and now it's scripture quoting time!!! :roll: :roll:
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Here it goes again. :roll: :roll: :roll:

This started out about totin' guns and now it's scripture quoting time!!! :roll: :roll:

What is that saying, God created man, but Sam Colt made them equal. :lol:
 

nonothing

Well-known member
Steve wrote
A person can be trained to use the best tactics (as the military does).. but that doesn't seem to be what you are asking,..

You are right ,military training isthe best tactical training...


a lifetime of teaching a person right and wrong gives them the ability to know how to make that decision... and to live with it once they do..

Who decides what is right and wrong.?...For instance.,I may see you as a person who can teach right and wrong.At the same time if it was left up to say someone like Aplus,then I take issue,He in my books would be a terrible teacher of right and wrong..So your answer depends on the teachers not the student.

Do you make preperations for thier own protection, or leave it to others

So protection is either by gun or by help?..I think there are a few more options then those....

and if no one will protect you...

do you stand up against evil,


Of course,but carring a concealed weapon is not the answer to handling fear...people's reaction to fear most times is not well planned out.When one becomes angry it is said they only use 30% of their brain,do you want a guy holding a gun at you because you cut him off on the freeway......all he has to say is you pulled first regardless of who got shot.

It is your right to carry a gun,so carry one.all he sugested is to not have them concealed.....
 

hopalong

Well-known member
nonothing said:
Steve wrote
A person can be trained to use the best tactics (as the military does).. but that doesn't seem to be what you are asking,..

You are right ,military training isthe best tactical training...

Wrong! Parental teaching is by far better than military.


a lifetime of teaching a person right and wrong gives them the ability to know how to make that decision... and to live with it once they do..

Who decides what is right and wrong.?...For instance.,I may see you as a person who can teach right and wrong.At the same time if it was left up to say someone like Aplus,then I take issue,He in my books would be a terrible teacher of right and wrong..So your answer depends on the teachers not the student.

Given a choice of a teacher i will take A+ over you any day. If what you have to teach then i want no part of it!!!!

Do you make preperations for thier own protection, or leave it to others

So protection is either by gun or by help?..I think there are a few more options then those....

and if no one will protect you...

do you stand up against evil,


Of course,but carring a concealed weapon is not the answer to handling fear...people's reaction to fear most times is not well planned out.When one becomes angry it is said they only use 30% of their brain,do you want a guy holding a gun at you because you cut him off on the freeway......all he has to say is you pulled first regardless of who got shot.

It is your right to carry a gun,so carry one.all he sugested is to not have them concealed.....

Yes it is MY right to carry a weapon, that was and is what out 2nd admentment states and YOU being from Canada have no RIGHT to even question it!!!PERIOD!
If you do not like the fact we can carry and you cannot then you tend to your own countries problems and stop trying to address the U.S.A. issiues!!!
Go put on your pink undies and go night night
 

Goodpasture

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hopalong said:
Go put on your pink undies and go night night
The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of your of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.
 

Mrs.Greg

Well-known member
hopalong said:
nonothing said:
Steve wrote
A person can be trained to use the best tactics (as the military does).. but that doesn't seem to be what you are asking,..

You are right ,military training isthe best tactical training...

Wrong! Parental teaching is by far better than military.


a lifetime of teaching a person right and wrong gives them the ability to know how to make that decision... and to live with it once they do..

Who decides what is right and wrong.?...For instance.,I may see you as a person who can teach right and wrong.At the same time if it was left up to say someone like Aplus,then I take issue,He in my books would be a terrible teacher of right and wrong..So your answer depends on the teachers not the student.

Given a choice of a teacher i will take A+ over you any day. If what you have to teach then i want no part of it!!!!

Do you make preperations for thier own protection, or leave it to others

So protection is either by gun or by help?..I think there are a few more options then those....

and if no one will protect you...

do you stand up against evil,


Of course,but carring a concealed weapon is not the answer to handling fear...people's reaction to fear most times is not well planned out.When one becomes angry it is said they only use 30% of their brain,do you want a guy holding a gun at you because you cut him off on the freeway......all he has to say is you pulled first regardless of who got shot.

It is your right to carry a gun,so carry one.all he sugested is to not have them concealed.....

Yes it is MY right to carry a weapon, that was and is what out 2nd admentment states and YOU being from Canada have no RIGHT to even question it!!!PERIOD!
If you do not like the fact we can carry and you cannot then you tend to your own countries problems and stop trying to address the U.S.A. issiues!!!
Go put on your pink undies and go night night
I think this point could have been made with more taste and grace...don't you hopalong :???:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Goodpasture said:
hopalong said:
Go put on your pink undies and go night night
The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of your of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

At my age it is past the time of learning!!
You need to look over your sholder ans see who is looking at you :D
I am much closer to you that you think, I have known yo since you were in diapers! Opps you still are!! :D :D
Hell Greg I even changed them a time or two!!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
 

Mrs.Greg

Well-known member
hopalong said:
Goodpasture said:
hopalong said:
Go put on your pink undies and go night night
The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of your of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

At my age it is past the time of learning!!
You need to look over your sholder ans see who is looking at you :D
I am much closer to you that you think, I have known yo since you were in diapers! Opps you still are!! :D :D
Hell Greg I even changed them a time or two!!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
You know Hopalong your post reeks of stalking and I don't find it entertaining at all :?
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Mrs.Greg said:
hopalong said:
Goodpasture said:
The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of your of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.



At my age it is past the time of learning!!
You need to look over your sholder ans see who is looking at you :D
I am much closer to you that you think, I have known yo since you were in diapers! Opps you still are!! :D :D
Hell Greg I even changed them a time or two!!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
You know Hopalong your post reeks of stalking and I don't find it entertaining at all :?

Sorry Mrs Greg

If you think my postings are stalking then you have a worse problem that some of the other posters here!
I know Greg personally, I know the crap he has pulled for most of his life!
YOU dislike A+ Me,Texan, Steve need i go on!!!!!!!!
I suppose all I would have to do is bow to you and then i would get on your good side!
Sorry I cannot do that!!!
I will not kiss anyones a## and if you do not like it then you can kiss mine
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
nonothing said:
Steve wrote
A person can be trained to use the best tactics (as the military does).. but that doesn't seem to be what you are asking,..

You are right ,military training isthe best tactical training...


a lifetime of teaching a person right and wrong gives them the ability to know how to make that decision... and to live with it once they do..

Who decides what is right and wrong.?...For instance.,I may see you as a person who can teach right and wrong.At the same time if it was left up to say someone like Aplus,then I take issue,He in my books would be a terrible teacher of right and wrong..So your answer depends on the teachers not the student.

Do you make preperations for thier own protection, or leave it to others

So protection is either by gun or by help?..I think there are a few more options then those....

and if no one will protect you...

do you stand up against evil,


Of course,but carring a concealed weapon is not the answer to handling fear...people's reaction to fear most times is not well planned out.When one becomes angry it is said they only use 30% of their brain,do you want a guy holding a gun at you because you cut him off on the freeway......all he has to say is you pulled first regardless of who got shot.

It is your right to carry a gun,so carry one.all he sugested is to not have them concealed.....

Thing is concealed Carry is not a new thing. You see when you turn on the news from America and see someone killed by a gun illegally rarely if almost never will it be a person with a conceal Carry permit. Those accounts you see on the news are criminals killing people and almost always someone that does not have a right to carry.

You are try to fabricate what ifs, that have proven to be a non existent problem.

I am sure some people die in Canada at the hands of guns, and would it not be safe to say it never happens by someone with a conceal Carry permit?

And as far as us stupid people making that decision, it really is not that hard, someone attacks you, robs you, assaults you or your family, breaks into your home then you shoot them in the head. Pretty simple rules most children could even comprehend, maybe one day you will fill mature enough to own one, just a shame that right is being taken away from you by your government.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
hopalong said:
Mrs.Greg said:
hopalong said:
At my age it is past the time of learning!!
You need to look over your sholder ans see who is looking at you :D
I am much closer to you that you think, I have known yo since you were in diapers! Opps you still are!! :D :D
Hell Greg I even changed them a time or two!!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
You know Hopalong your post reeks of stalking and I don't find it entertaining at all :?

Sorry Mrs Greg

If you think my postings are stalking then you have a worse problem that some of the other posters here!
I know Greg personally, I know the crap he has pulled for most of his life!
YOU dislike A+ Me,Texan, Steve need i go on!!!!!!!!
I suppose all I would have to do is bow to you and then i would get on your good side!
Sorry I cannot do that!!!
I will not kiss anyones a## and if you do not like it then you can kiss mine


Ok...I quoted so you can't delete this now.


That's WAY outta line.....I mean over the edge.
 

Mrs.Greg

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
Steve wrote
A person can be trained to use the best tactics (as the military does).. but that doesn't seem to be what you are asking,..

You are right ,military training isthe best tactical training...


a lifetime of teaching a person right and wrong gives them the ability to know how to make that decision... and to live with it once they do..

Who decides what is right and wrong.?...For instance.,I may see you as a person who can teach right and wrong.At the same time if it was left up to say someone like Aplus,then I take issue,He in my books would be a terrible teacher of right and wrong..So your answer depends on the teachers not the student.

Do you make preperations for thier own protection, or leave it to others

So protection is either by gun or by help?..I think there are a few more options then those....

and if no one will protect you...

do you stand up against evil,


Of course,but carring a concealed weapon is not the answer to handling fear...people's reaction to fear most times is not well planned out.When one becomes angry it is said they only use 30% of their brain,do you want a guy holding a gun at you because you cut him off on the freeway......all he has to say is you pulled first regardless of who got shot.

It is your right to carry a gun,so carry one.all he sugested is to not have them concealed.....

Thing is concealed Carry is not a new thing. You see when you turn on the news from America and see someone killed by a gun illegally rarely if almost never will it be a person with a conceal Carry permit. Those accounts you see on the news are criminals killing people and almost always someone that does not have a right to carry.

You are try to fabricate what ifs, that have proven to be a non existent problem.

I am sure some people die in Canada at the hands of guns, and would it not be safe to say it never happens by someone with a conceal Carry permit?

And as far as us stupid people making that decision, it really is not that hard, someone attacks you, robs you, assaults you or your family, breaks into your home then you shoot them in the head. Pretty simple rules most children could even comprehend, maybe one day you will fill mature enough to own one, just a shame that right is being taken away from you by your government.
A-plus,in our country the libs won our gun battle we now have gun control :evil: All our guns are registered and trust me theres no such thing as a concealed carry permit,if guns are concealed in our country its a criminal carrying them :? Pure and simple bullshit,a month ago greg got a second notice{didn't recieve the first notice,was never sent its a ploy,but anyway when reregistering he forgot a stupid question,and the notice he got was by the 31 of march the RCMP would be confeskating his guns,needles to say HE LOST IT,called the number she said calm down all you have to do is answer the question....."Has any woman besides you wife lived with you in the last three years"I friggin had to sign the register,pretty obvious I was living with him. Its BS,I'd fight gun control as hard and as possible as I could in your country....comin from little Ol liberal me :wink:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
hopalong said:
Mrs.Greg said:
You know Hopalong your post reeks of stalking and I don't find it entertaining at all :?

Sorry Mrs Greg

If you think my postings are stalking then you have a worse problem that some of the other posters here!
I know Greg personally, I know the crap he has pulled for most of his life!
YOU dislike A+ Me,Texan, Steve need i go on!!!!!!!!
I suppose all I would have to do is bow to you and then i would get on your good side!
Sorry I cannot do that!!!
I will not kiss anyones a## and if you do not like it then you can kiss mine


Ok...I quoted so you can't delete this now.


That's WAY outta line.....I mean over the edge.
I have no intenton of deleting it!!
Guess i missed telling you the same thing!
but then I have more respect for Mrs Greg than I do you, which is just an inch above the respect I have for GREG!!!!!
Guess where that puts you!!!
Just one above Nothing!!
Well maybe not!!!
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
hopalong said:
kolanuraven said:
hopalong said:
Sorry Mrs Greg

If you think my postings are stalking then you have a worse problem that some of the other posters here!
I know Greg personally, I know the crap he has pulled for most of his life!
YOU dislike A+ Me,Texan, Steve need i go on!!!!!!!!
I suppose all I would have to do is bow to you and then i would get on your good side!
Sorry I cannot do that!!!
I will not kiss anyones a## and if you do not like it then you can kiss mine


Ok...I quoted so you can't delete this now.


That's WAY outta line.....I mean over the edge.
I have no intenton of deleting it!!
Guess i missed telling you the same thing!
but then I have more respect for Mrs Greg than I do you, which is just an inch above the respect I have for GREG!!!!!

Guess where that puts you!!!
Just one above Nothing!!
Well maybe not!!!



Well...you have a habit of deleting things when you screw up.


You are one fine piece of work for sure. You just keep impressing us with you IQ for sure.
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
hopalong said:
At my age it is past the time of learning!!
You need to look over your sholder ans see who is looking at you :D
I am much closer to you that you think, I have known yo since you were in diapers! Opps you still are!! :D :D
Hell Greg I even changed them a time or two!!
:roll: :roll: :roll:

hopalong said:
Sorry Mrs Greg

If you think my postings are stalking then you have a worse problem that some of the other posters here!
I know Greg personally, I know the crap he has pulled for most of his life!
YOU dislike A+ Me,Texan, Steve need i go on!!!!!!!!
I suppose all I would have to do is bow to you and then i would get on your good side!
Sorry I cannot do that!!!
I will not kiss anyones a## and if you do not like it then you can kiss mine

Keep my name out of them kind of post! It it is over the edge and creepy!

You can not say stuff about someone in the real world with out coming clean about who you are and what proof there is. And the stalking part is defiantly out of line.

It is easy to claim you know someone and say stuff when the can not defend against someone hiding behind an alias.

And when you start talking like a stalker that is watching someone, then that is going over the line! I have had a couple people try to contact me from online profiles and it is not funny. If I want to talk or see someone in person I will invite them or be invited. Otherwise we should keep to the online facts and opinions and leave personal stuff out.
 

Mrs.Greg

Well-known member
hopalong said:
Mrs.Greg said:
hopalong said:
At my age it is past the time of learning!!
You need to look over your sholder ans see who is looking at you :D
I am much closer to you that you think, I have known yo since you were in diapers! Opps you still are!! :D :D
Hell Greg I even changed them a time or two!!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
You know Hopalong your post reeks of stalking and I don't find it entertaining at all :?

Sorry Mrs Greg

If you think my postings are stalking then you have a worse problem that some of the other posters here!
I know Greg personally, I know the crap he has pulled for most of his life!
YOU dislike A+ Me,Texan, Steve need i go on!!!!!!!!
I suppose all I would have to do is bow to you and then i would get on your good side!
Sorry I cannot do that!!!
I will not kiss anyones a## and if you do not like it then you can kiss mine
You need to get your facts straight...Texan and Steve and I get along quite fine. Aplus and I debate,sometimes heatedly but I don't think we hate each other at all.

The thing is,I'm pretty sure me nor anyone elses cares about personal dislikes between you and GP,your delving into his personal history,even if its true or not its stalking. I personally know a few people on here and I would NEVER EVER post anything personal about them.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
hopalong said:
kolanuraven said:
hopalong said:
Sorry Mrs Greg

If you think my postings are stalking then you have a worse problem that some of the other posters here!
I know Greg personally, I know the crap he has pulled for most of his life!
YOU dislike A+ Me,Texan, Steve need i go on!!!!!!!!
I suppose all I would have to do is bow to you and then i would get on your good side!
Sorry I cannot do that!!!
I will not kiss anyones a## and if you do not like it then you can kiss mine


Ok...I quoted so you can't delete this now.


That's WAY outta line.....I mean over the edge.
I have no intenton of deleting it!!
Guess i missed telling you the same thing!
but then I have more respect for Mrs Greg than I do you, which is just an inch above the respect I have for GREG!!!!!
Guess where that puts you!!!
Just one above Nothing!!
Well maybe not!!!



You don't like us cause we're not impressed with you and you can't seem to handle that.

Maybe you need to like you did before, go away and come back as someone else again....but then, as we see now that didn't work out too well either. :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
Mrs.Greg said:
A-plus,in our country the libs won our gun battle we now have gun control :evil: All our guns are registered and trust me theres no such thing as a concealed carry permit,if guns are concealed in our country its a criminal carrying them :? Pure and simple BS,a month ago greg got a second notice{didn't recieve the first notice,was never sent its a ploy,but anyway when reregistering he forgot a stupid question,and the notice he got was by the 31 of march the RCMP would be confeskating his guns,needles to say HE LOST IT,called the number she said calm down all you have to do is answer the question....."Has any woman besides you wife lived with you in the last three years"I friggin had to sign the register,pretty obvious I was living with him. Its BS,I'd fight gun control as hard and as possible as I could in your country....comin from little Ol liberal me :wink:

I know you got some conservative in you :lol:

I feel for any country that has been disarmed by its government. Even from a selfish point, I know when push comes to shove America and Canada will stand side by side. And if things ever hit the fan I would want Canadians armed as much as American citizens.

There was a reason that the first thing Hitler did was disarm his citizens. If you can not fight back you are at the mercy of criminals and enemies within and abroad.
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Sorry A+ did not mean to upset you!
As far as my statement knowing Greg in person that is FACT,For more years than I care to admit to! For more embarrassing moments than I want to discuss!
I will apoligize to MRS GREG for I do have some respect for her.But only for telling her to kiss my A$$.
As far as Kolouraven goes NOPE NADA NO WAY, let her be the 300 yr old lady for as long as she wants :roll: :roll:
 

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