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Obama Comes Out Against Concealed Carry

aplusmnt

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hopalong said:
Sorry A+ did not mean to upset you!
As far as my statement knowing Greg in person that is FACT,For more years than I care to admit to! For more embarrassing moments than I want to discuss!
I will apoligize to MRS GREG for I do have some respect for her.But only for telling her to kiss my A$$.
As far as Kolouraven goes NOPE NADA NO WAY, let her be the 300 yr old lady for as long as she wants :roll: :roll:

In my opinion the over the line part is not telling her to kiss your a$$ it is implying you are watching her, and saying personal things about her and her husband online while you hide behind an alias.

I doubt any of us what to hear your personal opinion of Greg but if you are going to do it then come clean and tell her who you are and solve it in PM's. You are fighting a lob sided fight here that is not fair. Fair would be to tell her who you are, and proper etiquette would be to fight it out in person or PM's
 

Mrs.Greg

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aplusmnt said:
hopalong said:
Sorry A+ did not mean to upset you!
As far as my statement knowing Greg in person that is FACT,For more years than I care to admit to! For more embarrassing moments than I want to discuss!
I will apoligize to MRS GREG for I do have some respect for her.But only for telling her to kiss my A$$.
As far as Kolouraven goes NOPE NADA NO WAY, let her be the 300 yr old lady for as long as she wants :roll: :roll:

In my opinion the over the line part is not telling her to kiss your a$$ it is implying you are watching her, and saying personal things about her and her husband online while you hide behind an alias.

I doubt any of us what to hear your personal opinion of Greg but if you are going to do it then come clean and tell her who you are and solve it in PM's. You are fighting a lob sided fight here that is not fair. Fair would be to tell her who you are, and proper etiquette would be to fight it out in person or PM's
A-plus...Greg isn't my hubby greg I believe its GP's name...but thx for telling him he can tell me to kiss his A%% :D :D
 

aplusmnt

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Mrs.Greg said:
aplusmnt said:
hopalong said:
Sorry A+ did not mean to upset you!
As far as my statement knowing Greg in person that is FACT,For more years than I care to admit to! For more embarrassing moments than I want to discuss!
I will apoligize to MRS GREG for I do have some respect for her.But only for telling her to kiss my A$$.
As far as Kolouraven goes NOPE NADA NO WAY, let her be the 300 yr old lady for as long as she wants :roll: :roll:

In my opinion the over the line part is not telling her to kiss your a$$ it is implying you are watching her, and saying personal things about her and her husband online while you hide behind an alias.

I doubt any of us what to hear your personal opinion of Greg but if you are going to do it then come clean and tell her who you are and solve it in PM's. You are fighting a lob sided fight here that is not fair. Fair would be to tell her who you are, and proper etiquette would be to fight it out in person or PM's
A-plus...Greg isn't my hubby greg I believe its GP's name...but thx for telling him he can tell me to kiss his A%% :D :D

:lol: :lol: Ok I am confused. I thought he was talking about your Greg, never knew what Good Pastures name was or cared to find out.

It is a little harder taking up for Good pasture than your Greg :lol: But the same principal applies, come clean on who he is or keep the personal stuff off the board. I have no desire to know if Goodpasture is a low life in the real world or not. I would like to think everyone on here is that good neighbor that we all like but never talk politics with because we know we would not get along as well as we do if we avoid that subject.

I am perfectly content knowing what goodpasture has revealed about himself online with out bringing his personal life into it.

Would someone please tell me nonothings name so I do not accidentally defend him :wink: :lol:
 

hopalong

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aplusmnt said:
hopalong said:
Sorry A+ did not mean to upset you!
As far as my statement knowing Greg in person that is FACT,For more years than I care to admit to! For more embarrassing moments than I want to discuss!
I will apoligize to MRS GREG for I do have some respect for her.But only for telling her to kiss my A$$.
As far as Kolouraven goes NOPE NADA NO WAY, let her be the 300 yr old lady for as long as she wants :roll: :roll:

In my opinion the over the line part is not telling her to kiss your a$$ it is implying you are watching her, and saying personal things about her and her husband online while you hide behind an alias.

I doubt any of us what to hear your personal opinion of Greg but if you are going to do it then come clean and tell her who you are and solve it in PM's. You are fighting a lob sided fight here that is not fair. Fair would be to tell her who you are, and proper etiquette would be to fight it out in person or PM's
The Greg am refering is NOT MRS's Greg husband!!!!!

It is Greg Goodpasture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry for the confusion~
 

hopalong

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kolanuraven said:
hopalong said:
kolanuraven said:
Ok...I quoted so you can't delete this now.


That's WAY outta line.....I mean over the edge.
I have no intenton of deleting it!!
Guess i missed telling you the same thing!
but then I have more respect for Mrs Greg than I do you, which is just an inch above the respect I have for GREG!!!!!

Guess where that puts you!!!
Just one above Nothing!!
Well maybe not!!!



Well...you have a habit of deleting things when you screw up.


You are one fine piece of work for sure. You just keep impressing us with you IQ for sure.

Band wagon!! just make sure you do not get hurt jumping on on the wagon!!!!!!!! But who expected anything less out of you :roll: :roll:
 

nonothing

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aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
Steve wrote
A person can be trained to use the best tactics (as the military does).. but that doesn't seem to be what you are asking,..

You are right ,military training isthe best tactical training...


a lifetime of teaching a person right and wrong gives them the ability to know how to make that decision... and to live with it once they do..

Who decides what is right and wrong.?...For instance.,I may see you as a person who can teach right and wrong.At the same time if it was left up to say someone like Aplus,then I take issue,He in my books would be a terrible teacher of right and wrong..So your answer depends on the teachers not the student.

Do you make preperations for thier own protection, or leave it to others

So protection is either by gun or by help?..I think there are a few more options then those....

and if no one will protect you...

do you stand up against evil,


Of course,but carring a concealed weapon is not the answer to handling fear...people's reaction to fear most times is not well planned out.When one becomes angry it is said they only use 30% of their brain,do you want a guy holding a gun at you because you cut him off on the freeway......all he has to say is you pulled first regardless of who got shot.

It is your right to carry a gun,so carry one.all he sugested is to not have them concealed.....

Thing is concealed Carry is not a new thing. You see when you turn on the news from America and see someone killed by a gun illegally rarely if almost never will it be a person with a conceal Carry permit. Those accounts you see on the news are criminals killing people and almost always someone that does not have a right to carry.

You are try to fabricate what ifs, that have proven to be a non existent problem.

I am sure some people die in Canada at the hands of guns, and would it not be safe to say it never happens by someone with a conceal Carry permit?

And as far as us stupid people making that decision, it really is not that hard, someone attacks you, robs you, assaults you or your family, breaks into your home then you shoot them in the head. Pretty simple rules most children could even comprehend, maybe one day you will fill mature enough to own one, just a shame that right is being taken away from you by your government.

The conversation was between Steve and I...He never once mentioned Canada,unlike you and your buddy hopalong ....I disregard your words, for you have probably not even stepped foot into Canada .Aplus your lack of respect for my country and the people in it, speak volumes of how ignorant and hateful you can really be...


PS.here is another fabricated what if for you ......What if your Vice Pres shot someone he mistook for something else ..would that be considered selfdefence or an accidentail shooting? .Just a what if,but it could happen,right?
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Somehow I don't see AMinus & ' hoppy' as buddies.

AMinus' momma would have raised him with better manners than that I'd venture!
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
nonothing said:
aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
Steve wrote


You are right ,military training isthe best tactical training...




Who decides what is right and wrong.?...For instance.,I may see you as a person who can teach right and wrong.At the same time if it was left up to say someone like Aplus,then I take issue,He in my books would be a terrible teacher of right and wrong..So your answer depends on the teachers not the student.



So protection is either by gun or by help?..I think there are a few more options then those....




Of course,but carring a concealed weapon is not the answer to handling fear...people's reaction to fear most times is not well planned out.When one becomes angry it is said they only use 30% of their brain,do you want a guy holding a gun at you because you cut him off on the freeway......all he has to say is you pulled first regardless of who got shot.

It is your right to carry a gun,so carry one.all he sugested is to not have them concealed.....

Thing is concealed Carry is not a new thing. You see when you turn on the news from America and see someone killed by a gun illegally rarely if almost never will it be a person with a conceal Carry permit. Those accounts you see on the news are criminals killing people and almost always someone that does not have a right to carry.

You are try to fabricate what ifs, that have proven to be a non existent problem.

I am sure some people die in Canada at the hands of guns, and would it not be safe to say it never happens by someone with a conceal Carry permit?

And as far as us stupid people making that decision, it really is not that hard, someone attacks you, robs you, assaults you or your family, breaks into your home then you shoot them in the head. Pretty simple rules most children could even comprehend, maybe one day you will fill mature enough to own one, just a shame that right is being taken away from you by your government.

The conversation was between Steve and I...He never once mentioned Canada,unlike you and your buddy hopalong ....I disregard your words, for you have probably not even stepped foot into Canada .Aplus your lack of respect for my country and the people in it, speak volumes of how ignorant and hateful you can really be...


PS.here is another fabricated what if for you ......What if your Vice Pres shot someone he mistook for something else ..would that be considered selfdefence or an accidentail shooting? .Just a what if,but it could happen,right?

I did not say anything bad about Canada! Well except they have lost the right to own guns. And I think all the Conservative Canadians will agree with me that this is a bad thing!

My point is you are stuck on what ifs of a person killing someone that has a conceal gun permit. I say the important thing is that the people we read about killing people are not those with Conceal carry permits it is criminals.

I think the U.S. and Canada share this problem, guns in hands of criminals are the problem not accidental or bad choices by those who own or carry them legally.

Your question about our VP does not make sense, you answered your own question within it. You said if he mistook it for something else. If he mistook it then there you have your answer.
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Somehow I don't see AMinus & ' hoppy' as buddies.

AMinus' momma would have raised him with better manners than that I'd venture!

Some folks just seem to follow aplus around from table to table butting into his conversations. If he and I were off in the corner of the coffee shop cutting up, several folks on this board would just come butt in with dis and depression.

Life is good, for some of us. Sorry about the rest of ya'll.
 

kolanuraven

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aplusmnt said:
You said if he mistook it for something else. If he mistook it then there you have your answer.



Oh now come on.....when was the last time you saw a lawyer in a orange vest and thought it was a pheasant?????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A skunk maybe....but a lawyer???? :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Mike

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kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
You said if he mistook it for something else. If he mistook it then there you have your answer.



Oh now come on.....when was the last time you saw a lawyer in a orange vest and thought it was a pheasant?????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A skunk maybe....but a lawyer???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I take it you've never been quail hunting?
 

Mrs.Greg

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backhoeboogie said:
kolanuraven said:
Somehow I don't see AMinus & ' hoppy' as buddies.

AMinus' momma would have raised him with better manners than that I'd venture!

Some folks just seem to follow aplus around from table to table butting into his conversations. If he and I were off in the corner of the coffee shop cutting up, several folks on this board would just come butt in with dis and depression.

Life is good, for some of us. Sorry about the rest of ya'll.
Its an open forum,if you just want to hold a discussion with A-plus...pm him
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
You said if he mistook it for something else. If he mistook it then there you have your answer.



Oh now come on.....when was the last time you saw a lawyer in a orange vest and thought it was a pheasant?????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A skunk maybe....but a lawyer???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mistook was nonothings words, Personally I think he knew where he was shooting, just got a wing shot in instead of a kill shot.

Next time he needs to make sure he swings the gun with the lawyer instead of trying a spot shot. :lol:
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Mike said:
kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
You said if he mistook it for something else. If he mistook it then there you have your answer.



Oh now come on.....when was the last time you saw a lawyer in a orange vest and thought it was a pheasant?????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A skunk maybe....but a lawyer???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I take it you've never been quail hunting?


Nah...my Dan'l Boone days are over. :lol: :lol:

I hope to never have to gut/clean another critter!!


Now I can if I have too... :wink: :wink:
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
Mrs.Greg said:
backhoeboogie said:
kolanuraven said:
Somehow I don't see AMinus & ' hoppy' as buddies.

AMinus' momma would have raised him with better manners than that I'd venture!

Some folks just seem to follow aplus around from table to table butting into his conversations. If he and I were off in the corner of the coffee shop cutting up, several folks on this board would just come butt in with dis and depression.

Life is good, for some of us. Sorry about the rest of ya'll.
Its an open forum,if you just want to hold a discussion with A-plus...pm him

:) I will. But it is not just him. There are some other intelligent folks here. :shock: :shock: Actually, there are a few libs that aint half bad, except fot the lib part.
 

Mrs.Greg

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
Mrs.Greg said:
backhoeboogie said:
Some folks just seem to follow aplus around from table to table butting into his conversations. If he and I were off in the corner of the coffee shop cutting up, several folks on this board would just come butt in with dis and depression.

Life is good, for some of us. Sorry about the rest of ya'll.
Its an open forum,if you just want to hold a discussion with A-plus...pm him

:) I will. But it is not just him. There are some other intelligent folks here. :shock: :shock: Actually, there are a few libs that aint half bad, except fot the lib part.
I know I'm guilty of plunking my butt down in the middle of a good discussion :oops: It happens all over the board,theres always one of "Us"
 

Steve

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Mrs.Greg said:
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backhoeboogie[/b]"]
Mrs.Greg said:
Its an open forum,if you just want to hold a discussion with A-plus...pm him

:) I will. But it is not just him. There are some other intelligent folks here. :shock: :shock: Actually, there are a few libs that aint half bad, except fot the lib part.
I know I'm guilty of plunking my butt down in the middle of a good discussion :oops: It happens all over the board,theres always one of "Us"

I will often respond when I feel a comment is wrong.. or unanswered and I disagree with it..

if I agree or feel others have addressed it then I pass..

some feel that means I agree with the comment, but that is not always true.. it your unsure ask,.. and I will try to respond.. just now I am a bit busy..

on an open forum any comment is open to be responded to.. these boards would be mighty boring if it were not for the responses..

in a diner or coffee shop, if the guy is loud enough to be heard, he might get a few responses.. just like on here..
 

Steve

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nonothing said:
Steve wrote
A person can be trained to use the best tactics (as the military does).. but that doesn't seem to be what you are asking,..

You are right ,military training is the best tactical training...


Steve Wrote:
a lifetime of teaching a person right and wrong gives them the ability to know how to make that decision... and to live with it once they do..

Who decides what is right and wrong.?...For instance.,I may see you as a person who can teach right and wrong.At the same time if it was left up to say someone like Aplus,then I take issue,He in my books would be a terrible teacher of right and wrong..So your answer depends on the teachers not the student.

Steve
it is a person belief's and the law that guides what is right and wrong.. but in the end the person who kills another must live with the decision.. and the consequences..

Steve Wrote:
Do you make preparations for their own protection, or leave it to others

So protection is either by gun or by help?..I think there are a few more options then those....

Steve Wrote:
in most cases when you need protection it is ether by gun or by the authorities.. it is not a perfect world..

Steve Wrote:
and if no one will protect you...

do you stand up against evil,


Of course,but carrying a concealed weapon is not the answer to handling fear...people's reaction to fear most times is not well planned out.When one becomes angry it is said they only use 30% of their brain,do you want a guy holding a gun at you because you cut him off on the freeway......all he has to say is you pulled first regardless of who got shot.

Steve Wrote:
never mentioned fear... Just evil..

It is your right to carry a gun,so carry one.all he suggested is to not have them concealed.....

Steve Wrote:
it is the slow erosion of our rights that we are trying to protect... today it is conceal,.. tomorrow it is handguns.. our constitution says "shall not infringe"

I think you know what is right and wrong, like every one else.

shooting a person who cut you off in road rage is wrong.. defending your self from some one who is going to shoot you because you cut them off is justified,.. .. not right..

self defense is justified.. anger is not.. knowing the difference means a person knows right from wrong.. not that the killing of the person is right..
 

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