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Obama Completes Flip Flop On Gun Ban?

Mike

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http://amerpundit.com/2008/06/26/obama-completes-flip-flop-on-dc-handgun-ban/

I did see an interview video last night where in the past he said that he believed the D.C. ban was constitutional.

It's very hard to determine which way this guy is thinking but one thing for sure........the closer it gets to the general election, the farther right he swings.

Before long he'll be more to the right than McCain............ :lol: :lol:
 

Sandhusker

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When he was in the Illinois State Legislature, he voted AGAINST (yes he actually voted something other than "present") a bill to repeal a ban that was virtually identical to DC's - but now he supports the 2nd amendment. :roll:

This guy is nothing but a typical politician just saying what he thinks will get him a vote. "Change" my fat arse. How flipping gullible can people be?
 

PrairieQueen

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I am not going to post the complete article - read it here if you like:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25390404

But does anyone else find this statement completely ridiculous:

Obama said the decision “will provide much-needed guidance to local jurisdictions across the country.”

“As president, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters and sportsmen,” Obama said. “We can work together to enact common-sense laws, like closing the gun show loophole and improving our background check system, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals.”

How is gun control or even a complete ban going to keep guns out of the hands of terrorists? I am sure terrorists could care less which way this decision went. How is a background check going to make a difference? Do they fill out "terrorist" under the "occupation" section on the form?
 

QUESTION

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Wouldn't anyone want a ban on hand guns in DC if you were expected to be president? It kinda makes life a little safer. But now that it has been overturned and any nutbar can walk around with a glock and 2 clips now. Obama better get Hilory as his Vp so he isn't taken out by some looney.
 

Sandhusker

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QUESTION said:
Wouldn't anyone want a ban on hand guns in DC if you were expected to be president? It kinda makes life a little safer. But now that it has been overturned and any nutbar can walk around with a glock and 2 clips now. Obama better get Hilory as his Vp so he isn't taken out by some looney.

The nutbars ALREADY were walking around with glocks. That's what these anti-gun people don't understand, a gun ban has absolutley NO effect on a criminal getting a gun. The only people that can't get a gun are the people who want to follow the law!
 
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Sandhusker said:
QUESTION said:
Wouldn't anyone want a ban on hand guns in DC if you were expected to be president? It kinda makes life a little safer. But now that it has been overturned and any nutbar can walk around with a glock and 2 clips now. Obama better get Hilory as his Vp so he isn't taken out by some looney.

The nutbars ALREADY were walking around with glocks. That's what these anti-gun people don't understand, a gun ban has absolutley NO effect on a criminal getting a gun. The only people that can't get a gun are the people who want to follow the law!

Actually I read the other day where its getting harder for the average crook in the US to find some guns they want-- there is a shortage- as the illegal traders are making much more profit smuggling them down to the Mexicans to keep their drug wars supplied...

One article I read said that over 1/4 the Mexican army had deserted (taking guns, equpment, 50 cals, rocket launchers, vehicles, and all) and now belonged to one of the drug gangs (that pay much better) that are killing each other and the government folks along the border....

But thats something about our NAFTA partner, the state department has been pretty hush hush about- including all the Americans kidnapped and killed on both sides of the border in this power struggle...Dobbs is about the only one actively reporting the story with continuity- and about had a fit when the Mexican Govt. let the suspected murderer of a Border Patrol Agent (ran over him while coyoting in drugs and illegals) out of jail, without even notifying the US beforehand.....
 

Larrry

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Wouldn't anyone want a ban on hand guns in DC if you were expected to be president? It kinda makes life a little safer. But now that it has been overturned and any nutbar can walk around with a glock and 2 clips now.

The nutbar is anyone that believes such a ridiculous statement.
 

hopalong

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QUESTION said:
Wouldn't anyone want a ban on hand guns in DC if you were expected to be president? It kinda makes life a little safer. But now that it has been overturned and any nutbar can walk around with a glock and 2 clips now. Obama better get Hilory as his Vp so he isn't taken out by some looney.

If obama selects Hillery as his vp, he needs to worry more about Her supplying a gun to do him wrong than a nutbar from off the street!
 

QUESTION

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Sorry but if Obama gets in as pres. there will be some who try to take him out, just a prediction.
You guys down there don't need gun control have as many guns as you want it is in your constituion, but is says nothing about Ammunition control. Want to cut down gun crimes with handguns make the bullets worth $10,000/ bullet for certain calibers.
 

hopalong

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QUESTION said:
Sorry but if Obama gets in as pres. there will be some who try to take him out, just a prediction.
You guys down there don't need gun control have as many guns as you want it is in your constituion, but is says nothing about Ammunition control. Want to cut down gun crimes with handguns make the bullets worth $10,000/ bullet for certain calibers.

Easy enough to reload and make your own bullets so that wont work.
 

QUESTION

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Ammunition supplies aren't covered from what i have seen, but maybe i am wrong and it is somewhere in your constituion. Could you please show me where you have the right to gun powder, primers, and shell casings ? But what i will never understand why folks down there like shooting other people so much. Handguns and assault weaponds are made to kill people and can only rarely be made for hunting animals other than people. If you look at the differences in gun violence - hand guns are restricted, it is kind of hard to put a 300 weatherby or a goose gun 10 ga. in your pocket. And in all reality how many criminals have reloading presses.
 

Sandhusker

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Criminals get guns when they're not supposed to, they'll get bullets too.

The Second Amendment was put in as a protection against government, so that the people could arm themselves and take care of an oppressive government should the need arise. With that in mind, I would make the arguement that ammunition would be protected along with arms.
 

jodywy

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RobertMac said:
jodywy said:
these hand guns are made in Freedom Wyoming, most are used for competition or big game hunting
http://www.freedomarms.com/
thier .17HMR with a 10 inch barrel can shoot a tighter group at 100 yards then most rifles.

Sweet!!!!! :D :D But I'm partial to my 1911s 8)
My wife has worked for Freedom arms and al;so Dick Casull
when she worked for Dick he was marketing a 1911 he neck down a 45 case for a 38
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-2725972_ITM
 

aplusmnt

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QUESTION said:
it is kind of hard to put a 300 weatherby or a goose gun 10 ga. in your pocket. .

That is why we have pistols and assault rifles, who said guns are only for hunting. I have a few that their purpose is for killing people! Hopefully I will only use them in target practice.

But they are way more valuable to me than my 20 gauge used to kill quail, you see no quail ever tried to harm my family! So as much as I enjoy them and the opportunity to put some wild game on the dinner plate, the guns I have for killing of humans are way more important to me and my family!
 

QUESTION

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You guys see this is what i do not get. If someone broke into my place i would use some thing from my arsenal. But to go out and buy a handgun with the thought that i was going to use it to end another persons life on purpose is beyond me. Using a gun to defend my self shotgun or rifle i can get my head around. But planning to murder a intruder in Canada i would go to jail the precedent has been set. Not to mention all the headaches of the hand gun. Like i said there are a few hand guns that are meant for hunting but most hand guns and assault rifles are meant to kill other human beings. I guess that is one big cultural difference between canada and the US citizens. You guys can keep your hand guns,assault rifles , mass killing and mass muders. I'll keep my long guns for hunting and sleep with my front door open.
 

aplusmnt

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QUESTION said:
You guys see this is what i do not get. If someone broke into my place i would use some thing from my arsenal. But to go out and buy a handgun with the thought that i was going to use it to end another persons life on purpose is beyond me. Using a gun to defend my self shotgun or rifle i can get my head around. But planning to murder a intruder in Canada i would go to jail the precedent has been set. Not to mention all the headaches of the hand gun. Like i said there are a few hand guns that are meant for hunting but most hand guns and assault rifles are meant to kill other human beings. I guess that is one big cultural difference between canada and the US citizens. You guys can keep your hand guns,assault rifles , mass killing and mass muders. I'll keep my long guns for hunting and sleep with my front door open.

You think an intruder is going to be any less dead if you shot him with your Duck gun or I shot him with my Glock? :roll:
 

Ben H

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You can tell right away that any politician's view of the second amendment is completely wrong when they even mention hunters, sportsman or target shooting.
 
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