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Obama Endorses Ayers in 1997

Mike

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Monday, October 20, 2008


Barack Obama provided a glowing endorsement of a book by domestic terrorist William Ayers in the Dec. 21, 1997 Chicago Tribune.

Barack Obama, who has consistently downplayed his relationship with William Ayers during his presidential campaign, once gave a glowing endorsement of a book by the former domestic terrorist and was mentioned by name in the book itself.

A blogger unearthed the Dec. 21, 1997, endorsement in the Chicago Tribune and posted photographs of the praise for Ayers' book on Zombietime.com Saturday.

Featured next to a smiling photograph of himself, then-State Senator Obama called Ayers' book, "A Kind and Just Parent: Children of the Juvenile Court," a "searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, and the courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair."

The book, which details life at the Chicago Juvenile Court prison school, mentions Obama by name on page 82 when it describes Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood:

"Our neighbors include Muhammad Ali, former mayor Eugene Sawyer, poets Gwendolyn Brooks and Elizabeth Alexander, and writer Barack Obama. Minister Louis Farrakhan lives a block from our home and adds, we think, a unique dimension to the idea of 'safe neighborhood watch': the Fruit of Islam, his security force, has an eye on things twenty-four-hours a day."

The Obama campaign said the blurb was not a full-fledged review of the book.

"He didn't do a review. He provided one line about the book to the Tribune," campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt told FOXNews.com.

A month before the item appeared, on Nov. 20, 1997, Michelle Obama, then dean of student services and director of the University Community Service Center, held a panel at the University of Chicago that featured both Barack Obama and Ayers.

"Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system," the University of Chicago Chronicle reported on Nov. 6, 1997.

Obama has been criticized for refusing to elaborate on the extent of his relationship with Ayers and for claiming to have had no idea Ayers was a co-founder of the Wesather Underground, which claimed responsibility for bombing the Pentagon, U.S. Capitol and a New York Supreme Court justice's home in the Sixties.

The Obama campaign has noted that Obama was 8 years old when Ayers and the Weather Underground were active and has no link to their activities. Ayers has said he has "no regrets" about his participation in the domestic terror group.

"A Kind and Just Parent" was in stock at Amazon.com and ranked 51,273 in sales on Monday.
 
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Anonymous

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Lest we forget McCains connections to radical right wing terrorist G Gordon Liddy- which he still refuses to condemn... :shock:
Lets see promoting, conspiring to, or committing murder, kidnapping, burglary, shooting Law Enforcement officers in the head, illegal wiretapping, government subversion , convicted felon, ex-con...

And McCain calls him a "man of principles" :???: :shock:

What a HYPOCRITE......

With friends like these ...
McCain finds his own radical friend


Steve Chapman
May 4, 2008
Can a presidential candidate justify a long and friendly relationship with someone who, back in the 1970s, extolled violence and committed crimes in the name of a radical ideology -- and who has never shown remorse or admitted error? When the candidate in question is Barack Obama, John McCain says no. But when the candidate in question is John McCain, he's not so sure.

Obama has been justly criticized for his ties to former Weather Underground member Bill Ayers, who in 1995 hosted a campaign event for Obama and in 2001 gave him a $200 contribution. The two have also served together on the board of a foundation. When their connection became known, McCain minced no words: "I think not only a repudiation but an apology for ever having anything to do with an unrepentant terrorist is due the American people."What McCain didn't mention is that he has his own Bill Ayers -- in the form of G. Gordon Liddy. Now a conservative radio talk-show host, Liddy spent more than 4 years in prison for his role in the 1972 Watergate burglary. That was just one element of what Liddy did, and proposed to do, in a secret White House effort to subvert the Constitution. Far from repudiating him, McCain has embraced him.

How close are McCain and Liddy? At least as close as Obama and Ayers appear to be. In 1998, Liddy's home was the site of a McCain fundraiser. Over the years, he has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator's campaigns -- including $1,000 this year.

Last November, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as "an old friend," and McCain sounded like one. "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family," he gushed. "It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."

Which principles would those be? The ones that told Liddy it was fine to break into the office of the Democratic National Committee to plant bugs and photograph documents? The ones that made him propose to kidnap anti-war activists so they couldn't disrupt the 1972 Republican National Convention? The ones that inspired him to plan the murder (never carried out) of an unfriendly newspaper columnist?

Liddy was in the thick of the biggest political scandal in American history -- and one of the greatest threats to the rule of law. He has said he has no regrets about what he did, insisting that he went to jail as "a prisoner of war."

All this may sound like ancient history. But it's from the same era as the bombings Ayers helped carry out as a member of the Weather Underground. And Liddy's penchant for extreme solutions has not abated.

In 1994, after the disastrous federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, he gave some advice to his listeners: "Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests. ... Kill the sons of bitches."

He later backed off, saying he meant merely that people should defend themselves if federal agents came with guns blazing. But his amended guidance was not exactly conciliatory: Liddy also said he should have recommended shots to the groin instead of the head. If that wasn't enough to inflame any nut cases, he mentioned labeling targets "Bill" and "Hillary" when he practiced shooting.

Given Liddy's record, it's hard to see why McCain would touch him with a 10-foot pole. On the contrary, he should be returning his donations and shunning his show. Yet the senator shows no qualms about associating with Liddy -- or celebrating his service to their common cause.

How does McCain explain his howling hypocrisy on the subject? He doesn't. I made repeated inquiries to his campaign aides, which they refused to acknowledge, much less answer. On this topic, the pilot of the Straight Talk Express would rather stay parked in the garage.

That's an odd policy for someone who is so forthright about his rival's responsibility. McCain thinks Obama should apologize for associating with a criminal extremist. To which Obama might reply: After you.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0504chapmanmay04,0,6238795.column
 

Mike

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Now a conservative radio talk-show host, Liddy spent more than 4 years in prison for his role in the 1972 Watergate burglary.

Just how dangerous was he?

Answer: He was so dangerous that Jimmy Carter commuted his sentence.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He was sent to prison because he wouldn't rat on his buddies. :lol:
 
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Mike said:
Now a conservative radio talk-show host, Liddy spent more than 4 years in prison for his role in the 1972 Watergate burglary.

Just how dangerous was he?

Answer: He was so dangerous that Jimmy Carter commuted his sentence.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He was sent to prison because he wouldn't rat on his buddies. :lol:

In 1994, after the disastrous federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, he gave some advice to his listeners: "Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests. ... Kill the sons of bitches."

He later backed off, saying he meant merely that people should defend themselves if federal agents came with guns blazing. But his amended guidance was not exactly conciliatory: Liddy also said he should have recommended shots to the groin instead of the head. If that wasn't enough to inflame any nut cases, he mentioned labeling targets "Bill" and "Hillary" when he practiced shooting.

Well it appears to me that he hasn't quit his radical proclamations and promotions- except since we operate from different sides of the "bars" involving law enforcement and human rights- and you've made almost the same nutcase remarks-and promote the divisiveness of the right wing nuts like Rush and Ann :roll: - I suppose you don't condemn or don't think McCain should condemn someone promoting shooting law enforcement officers- or using pictures of the President of the United States- and First Lady as targets for practice shooting... :???:

This radical right extremist promotionalism and hate talk is as dangerous to the rule of law and our nation as any left wing radical extremism......
 

Mike

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or using pictures of the President of the United States- and First Lady as targets for practice shooting...

And this is as dangerous as bombing innocent people? :lol: :lol:

Seems like I remember the guy at Ruby Ridge winning a lawsuit because the ATF or FBI killed his innocent wife and child? :lol: :lol: :lol:

How's that for rule of law? :roll: :roll:

If you think Liddy is as dangerous as Ayers, you're more whacko than I previously thought. You're certified. :lol: :lol:
 
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Mike said:
or using pictures of the President of the United States- and First Lady as targets for practice shooting...

And this is as dangerous as bombing innocent people? :lol: :lol:

Seems like I remember the guy at Ruby Ridge winning a lawsuit because the ATF or FBI killed his innocent wife and child? :lol: :lol: :lol:

How's that for rule of law? :roll: :roll:

If you think Liddy is as dangerous as Ayers, you're more whacko than I previously thought. You're certified. :lol: :lol:

And how many people did Timothy McVeigh kill :???: Or is that OK to you because they were "government" employees :???: It was Waco- and the hatred stirred up by these same radical talk folks during Waco that gave him the idea to go there and kept him stirred after it - and along with these extremist right wing authors, formulated McVeighs plan to blow up the Murrah Building...
All these radical talk pimps do is stir up the nutcases- from both sides....
To me- Liddy is more dangerous than Ayers- as where Ayers was operating in the underground because he knew what he was doing was illegal-- the Liddy's think what they do is plumb right- as long as its done in the name of there political obsessions...

As far as Ruby Ridge- mistakes may have been made in tactics and he won a civil case on it-the rule of law was carried out in the courts--- but its still wrong to resist arrest from an legally sworn officer of the law- serving a lawfully signed warrent of arrest...But its the Liddy's and Rush's that promote these anti-government ideas in these nutcases minds...
 

loomixguy

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Old Komrade is just messing himself because someone like Liddy or former Sheriff Ed Cantrell would have got the best of him in ANY kind of a confrontation, not just one involving weapons.

As far as Liddy goes, he was carrying out orders.
 
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loomixguy said:
Old Komrade is just messing himself because someone like Liddy or former Sheriff Ed Cantrell would have got the best of him in ANY kind of a confrontation, not just one involving weapons.

As far as Liddy goes, he was carrying out orders.

You need to read some of the books authored by some of the "Watergate Crew"- Erlichman/Dean/etal... :roll:

Our government... teaches the whole people by its example. If the government becomes the lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.
Louis D. Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice
 

RobertMac

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OT, Liddy played the same little game you are playing here...get over yourself! You cut and paste radical, idiotic leftwing blog garbage just to rile folks here.

If some radical extremist hadn't stood up for their beliefs and shot and killed law enforcement officials, we would still be under the rule of England!?!? :shock: :eek:
 

TexasBred

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Lest we forget McCains connections to radical right wing terrorist G Gordon Liddy- which he still refuses to condemn... :shock:
Lets see promoting, conspiring to, or committing murder, kidnapping, burglary, shooting Law Enforcement officers in the head, illegal wiretapping, government subversion , convicted felon, ex-con...

And McCain calls him a "man of principles" :???: :shock:

What a HYPOCRITE......

With friends like these ...
McCain finds his own radical friend


Steve Chapman
May 4, 2008
Can a presidential candidate justify a long and friendly relationship with someone who, back in the 1970s, extolled violence and committed crimes in the name of a radical ideology -- and who has never shown remorse or admitted error? When the candidate in question is Barack Obama, John McCain says no. But when the candidate in question is John McCain, he's not so sure.

Obama has been justly criticized for his ties to former Weather Underground member Bill Ayers, who in 1995 hosted a campaign event for Obama and in 2001 gave him a $200 contribution. The two have also served together on the board of a foundation. When their connection became known, McCain minced no words: "I think not only a repudiation but an apology for ever having anything to do with an unrepentant terrorist is due the American people."What McCain didn't mention is that he has his own Bill Ayers -- in the form of G. Gordon Liddy. Now a conservative radio talk-show host, Liddy spent more than 4 years in prison for his role in the 1972 Watergate burglary. That was just one element of what Liddy did, and proposed to do, in a secret White House effort to subvert the Constitution. Far from repudiating him, McCain has embraced him.

How close are McCain and Liddy? At least as close as Obama and Ayers appear to be. In 1998, Liddy's home was the site of a McCain fundraiser. Over the years, he has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator's campaigns -- including $1,000 this year.

Last November, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as "an old friend," and McCain sounded like one. "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family," he gushed. "It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."

Which principles would those be? The ones that told Liddy it was fine to break into the office of the Democratic National Committee to plant bugs and photograph documents? The ones that made him propose to kidnap anti-war activists so they couldn't disrupt the 1972 Republican National Convention? The ones that inspired him to plan the murder (never carried out) of an unfriendly newspaper columnist?

Liddy was in the thick of the biggest political scandal in American history -- and one of the greatest threats to the rule of law. He has said he has no regrets about what he did, insisting that he went to jail as "a prisoner of war."

All this may sound like ancient history. But it's from the same era as the bombings Ayers helped carry out as a member of the Weather Underground. And Liddy's penchant for extreme solutions has not abated.

In 1994, after the disastrous federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, he gave some advice to his listeners: "Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests. ... Kill the sons of bitches."

He later backed off, saying he meant merely that people should defend themselves if federal agents came with guns blazing. But his amended guidance was not exactly conciliatory: Liddy also said he should have recommended shots to the groin instead of the head. If that wasn't enough to inflame any nut cases, he mentioned labeling targets "Bill" and "Hillary" when he practiced shooting.

Given Liddy's record, it's hard to see why McCain would touch him with a 10-foot pole. On the contrary, he should be returning his donations and shunning his show. Yet the senator shows no qualms about associating with Liddy -- or celebrating his service to their common cause.

How does McCain explain his howling hypocrisy on the subject? He doesn't. I made repeated inquiries to his campaign aides, which they refused to acknowledge, much less answer. On this topic, the pilot of the Straight Talk Express would rather stay parked in the garage.

That's an odd policy for someone who is so forthright about his rival's responsibility. McCain thinks Obama should apologize for associating with a criminal extremist. To which Obama might reply: After you.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0504chapmanmay04,0,6238795.column

OT..you keep going back to Liddy...that's old news and everyone is aware of it. Only thing McCain should do is quote Obama in that "I thought he was rehabilitated". Apparently Obama saying that about Ayers was good enough for you.
 
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TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
Lest we forget McCains connections to radical right wing terrorist G Gordon Liddy- which he still refuses to condemn... :shock:
Lets see promoting, conspiring to, or committing murder, kidnapping, burglary, shooting Law Enforcement officers in the head, illegal wiretapping, government subversion , convicted felon, ex-con...

And McCain calls him a "man of principles" :???: :shock:

What a HYPOCRITE......

With friends like these ...
McCain finds his own radical friend


Steve Chapman
May 4, 2008
Can a presidential candidate justify a long and friendly relationship with someone who, back in the 1970s, extolled violence and committed crimes in the name of a radical ideology -- and who has never shown remorse or admitted error? When the candidate in question is Barack Obama, John McCain says no. But when the candidate in question is John McCain, he's not so sure.

Obama has been justly criticized for his ties to former Weather Underground member Bill Ayers, who in 1995 hosted a campaign event for Obama and in 2001 gave him a $200 contribution. The two have also served together on the board of a foundation. When their connection became known, McCain minced no words: "I think not only a repudiation but an apology for ever having anything to do with an unrepentant terrorist is due the American people."What McCain didn't mention is that he has his own Bill Ayers -- in the form of G. Gordon Liddy. Now a conservative radio talk-show host, Liddy spent more than 4 years in prison for his role in the 1972 Watergate burglary. That was just one element of what Liddy did, and proposed to do, in a secret White House effort to subvert the Constitution. Far from repudiating him, McCain has embraced him.

How close are McCain and Liddy? At least as close as Obama and Ayers appear to be. In 1998, Liddy's home was the site of a McCain fundraiser. Over the years, he has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator's campaigns -- including $1,000 this year.

Last November, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as "an old friend," and McCain sounded like one. "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family," he gushed. "It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."

Which principles would those be? The ones that told Liddy it was fine to break into the office of the Democratic National Committee to plant bugs and photograph documents? The ones that made him propose to kidnap anti-war activists so they couldn't disrupt the 1972 Republican National Convention? The ones that inspired him to plan the murder (never carried out) of an unfriendly newspaper columnist?

Liddy was in the thick of the biggest political scandal in American history -- and one of the greatest threats to the rule of law. He has said he has no regrets about what he did, insisting that he went to jail as "a prisoner of war."

All this may sound like ancient history. But it's from the same era as the bombings Ayers helped carry out as a member of the Weather Underground. And Liddy's penchant for extreme solutions has not abated.

In 1994, after the disastrous federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, he gave some advice to his listeners: "Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests. ... Kill the sons of bitches."

He later backed off, saying he meant merely that people should defend themselves if federal agents came with guns blazing. But his amended guidance was not exactly conciliatory: Liddy also said he should have recommended shots to the groin instead of the head. If that wasn't enough to inflame any nut cases, he mentioned labeling targets "Bill" and "Hillary" when he practiced shooting.

Given Liddy's record, it's hard to see why McCain would touch him with a 10-foot pole. On the contrary, he should be returning his donations and shunning his show. Yet the senator shows no qualms about associating with Liddy -- or celebrating his service to their common cause.

How does McCain explain his howling hypocrisy on the subject? He doesn't. I made repeated inquiries to his campaign aides, which they refused to acknowledge, much less answer. On this topic, the pilot of the Straight Talk Express would rather stay parked in the garage.

That's an odd policy for someone who is so forthright about his rival's responsibility. McCain thinks Obama should apologize for associating with a criminal extremist. To which Obama might reply: After you.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0504chapmanmay04,0,6238795.column

OT..you keep going back to Liddy...that's old news and everyone is aware of it. Only thing McCain should do is quote Obama in that "I thought he was rehabilitated". Apparently Obama saying that about Ayers was good enough for you.

How about he does like Obama did --and say he condemns those radical actions of Liddy's-and people that do such actions--- but he won't..
He can't because then he will upset some of his radical right base who worship Liddy and other hate and racist spewers like a God--just like Timothy McVeigh did...And it blows his entire fearmongering and hate campaign out of the water...
 

mrj

Well-known member
OT, you and others who hoot that Ayers is reformed or not dangerous ignore the fact that he has been training teachers and influencing our eduction system to his ideas for 'reforming' and 'changing' our very system of government for years! Basically ever since he laughed about being "guilty as hell" and still getting off after her was caught red handed.

That makes him MORE dangerous than ever!

mrj
 
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mrj said:
OT, you and others who hoot that Ayers is reformed or not dangerous ignore the fact that he has been training teachers and influencing our eduction system to his ideas for 'reforming' and 'changing' our very system of government for years! Basically ever since he laughed about being "guilty as hell" and still getting off after her was caught red handed.

That makes him MORE dangerous than ever!

mrj

Some of our system of government needs to be changed- and thats the way to do it- thru education and peaceful change...Thats exactly what most of us on this sight want is some change in government...
I'd start with
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TexasBred

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
Lest we forget McCains connections to radical right wing terrorist G Gordon Liddy- which he still refuses to condemn... :shock:
Lets see promoting, conspiring to, or committing murder, kidnapping, burglary, shooting Law Enforcement officers in the head, illegal wiretapping, government subversion , convicted felon, ex-con...

And McCain calls him a "man of principles" :???: :shock:

What a HYPOCRITE......

OT..you keep going back to Liddy...that's old news and everyone is aware of it. Only thing McCain should do is quote Obama in that "I thought he was rehabilitated". Apparently Obama saying that about Ayers was good enough for you.

How about he does like Obama did --and say he condemns those radical actions of Liddy's-and people that do such actions--- but he won't..
He can't because then he will upset some of his radical right base who worship Liddy and other hate and racist spewers like a God--just like Timothy McVeigh did...And it blows his entire fearmongering and hate campaign out of the water...

Why won't Obama admit his relationships with terrorists and racists instead of condemning them. All he's trying to do is distance himself from them rather than admit his relationships with them over the years.

And for Obama to say "I thought he was rehabilitated" shows total idiocy. Can a radical terrorist bomber be rehabilitated??
 
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TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
TexasBred said:
OT..you keep going back to Liddy...that's old news and everyone is aware of it. Only thing McCain should do is quote Obama in that "I thought he was rehabilitated". Apparently Obama saying that about Ayers was good enough for you.

How about he does like Obama did --and say he condemns those radical actions of Liddy's-and people that do such actions--- but he won't..
He can't because then he will upset some of his radical right base who worship Liddy and other hate and racist spewers like a God--just like Timothy McVeigh did...And it blows his entire fearmongering and hate campaign out of the water...

Why won't Obama admit his relationships with terrorists and racists instead of condemning them. All he's trying to do is distance himself from them rather than admit his relationships with them over the years.

And for Obama to say "I thought he was rehabilitated" shows total idiocy. Can a radical terrorist bomber be rehabilitated??

But you think a radical right wing terrorist can :???: That shows that he's still a nutcase with his spewing hate (Kill law enforcement) and racist ideas on talk radio even after he's released from prison :???:
 

RobertMac

Well-known member
OT, "there you go again". Spewing hate or not spewing hate depends on who is defining what is hate. Many would classify what you cut & paste here as spewing...

By the way, how many hours a day do you listen to talk radio?


...just get your info from your radical, idiotic leftwing blog garbage???!!!!
 
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RobertMac said:
OT, "there you go again". Spewing hate or not spewing hate depends on who is defining what is hate. Many would classify what you cut & paste here as spewing...

By the way, how many hours a day do you listen to talk radio?


...just get your info from your radical, idiotic leftwing blog garbage???!!!!

You don't consider this type talk- spewing hate :???:
To me it is promoting anarchy- something Liddy has a history of...
Were you aware that Timothy McVeigh was listening to Liddy's hate about Waco- when he decided to go to Waco and sat out the seige- and began his planning to "get even" with the government- which led to 168 people being killed in the bombing of the Murrah Building- which he got the idea from "The Turner Diaries" a novel written by another right wing nut white supremacist that describes bombing the FBI office in D.C.....

Yep- McCains pal...

In 1994, after the disastrous federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, he gave some advice to his listeners: "Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests. ... Kill the sons of bitches."

He later backed off, saying he meant merely that people should defend themselves if federal agents came with guns blazing. But his amended guidance was not exactly conciliatory: Liddy also said he should have recommended shots to the groin instead of the head. If that wasn't enough to inflame any nut cases, he mentioned labeling targets "Bill" and "Hillary" when he practiced shooting.
 

TexasBred

Well-known member
OT...at least Liddy served his time, much of it in solitary confinement. Until his sentence was commuted by none other than PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER. I guess you would say he HAS paid his debt. What else do you expect from him??? Man I'd love to see how you administered justice when you were the "High Sheriff". Had to have a strong resemblance to Dudley DoRight of the RCMP. :lol: :lol:

Here's what Liddy actually said about ATF officers entering your home:

Liddy claimed that his detractors omit some important context: [10]

“ I was talking about a situation in which law enforced agents comes smashing into a house, doesn't say who they are, and their guns are out, they're shooting, and they're in the wrong place. This has happened time and time again. The ATF has gone in and gotten the wrong guy in the wrong place. The law is that if somebody is shooting at you, using deadly force, the mere fact that they are a law enforcement officer, if they are in the wrong, does not mean you are obliged to allow yourself to be killed so your kinfolk can have a wrongful death action. You are legally entitled to defend yourself and I was speaking of exactly those kind of situations. If you're going to do that, you should know that they're wearing body armor so you should use a head shot. Now all I'm doing is stating the law, but all the nuances in there got left out when the story got repeated.
 
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