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Obama full of it and in it

Sandhusker

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Barack Obama has just been exposed as a liar to the American people. He lied to us in a manner that puts him in the same league as Bill Clinton, Senator Ted Stevens, Senator Robert Torricelli, Rep Randy “Duke” Cunningham and Rep William Jefferson. We have yet to know what, if any, crimes Obama has committed. But the fact is this week he went out and lied straight to the American people. He tried to cover his tracks.

Here is the lie, which caught my eye because of the phrasing Obama was using during his press conference on Daschle’s appointment:

“I had no contact with the governor’s office. I did not speak to the governor about these issues. That I know for certain.”

It is a lie because now we know Obama’s Chief of Staff provided Blagojevich Obama’s list of candidates he thought should fill his seat. The news broke last night:

Another source said that contact between the Obama camp and the governor’s administration regarding the Senate seat began the Saturday before the Nov. 4 election, when Emanuel made a call to the cell phone of Harris. The conversation took place around the same time press reports surfaced about Emanuel being approached about taking the high-level White House post should Obama win.

Emanuel delivered a list of candidates who would be “acceptable” to Obama, the source said. On the list were Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, Illinois Veterans Affairs director Tammy Duckworth, state Comptroller Dan Hynes and U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Chicago, the source said. All are Democrats.

Sometime after the election, Emanuel called Harris back to add the name of Democratic Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan to the approved list, the source said.

Does Senator Obama really think the American people care about the parsing of ‘talked’ verses ’sent my list of candidates through my Chief of Staff’? Come on! Who gave the list to Emmanuel? Obama of course! It was Obama’s list of candidates Blagojevich was working with. OMG - are these people morons?

Barack Obama, the next President of the United States, just wagged his finger into the camera and said “I had no conversations with that Governor, Blagojevich, on the candidates for my senate seat’. Of course sending the list of candidates through Emmanual doesn’t somehow count as ‘conversation’.

I will not be lied to and right now my view of Obama is totally shattered. But my blowback on Obama is going to be mild compared to all those true believers who voted for ‘change we can believe in’. The entire Obama administration is now in a shambles because it’s load bearing characteristic has failed in a devastating manner. Obama is not only just like all other pols, he is inexperienced klutz as well.

Obama could not trust the American people to simply tell them he exchanged information with Blagojevich on the matter of the vacant senate seat. All of us would have been shocked at his ineptitude if he hadn’t been pre-planning his transition. But Obama failed America by failing to trust us with obvious details. So he lied and tried sell the idea his ‘office’ had nothing to do with ‘the issue’ (his office of course being his senate office, not his transition team).

And it may get worse. As I noted previously, when reviewing the infamous November 10, 2008 conference call, there were some counter offers from team Obama to team Blagojevich to try and tone down the quid pro quo, to make it less apparent to the public. The first one listed in the criminal complaint covers a two year ‘quiet period’ so that the connection of the quid pro quo to the senate seat would not be so damn obvious. The Team Obama proposal got a big response out of Blagojevich:

[statement 6] ROD BLAGOJEVICH said that the consultants (Advisor B and another consultant are believed to be on the call at that time) are telling him that he has to “suck it up” for two years and do nothing and give this “motherf [the President-elect] his senator. F him. For nothing? F him.”

Note he is not saying ‘get nothing’ forever, he is complaining about getting nothing for two years. This delaying tactic comes up later in the conference call as well, when discussing what seems to be the final solution, a three-way deal with the SEIU and a golden parachute job for Blagojevich and/or his wife:

[statement 8] HARRIS re-stated ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s thoughts that they should ask the President-elect for something for ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s financial security as well as maintain his political viability. HARRIS said they could work out a three-way deal with SEIU and the President-elect where SEIU could help the President-elect with ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s appointment of Senate Candidate 1 to the vacant Senate seat, ROD BLAGOJEVICH would obtain a position as the National Director of the Change to Win campaign, and SEIU would get something favorable from the President-elect in the future.

…[Gap 5]…

[statement 9] One of ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s advisors said he likes the idea, it sounds like a good idea, but advised ROD BLAGOJEVICH to be leery of promises for something two years from now.

…[Gap 6]…

[statement 10] ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s wife said they would take the job now.

…[Gap 7]…

[statement 11] Thereafter, ROD BLAGOJEVICH and others on the phone call discussed various ways ROD BLAGOJEVICH can “monetize” the relationships he is making as Governor to make money after ROD BLAGOJEVICH is no longer Governor.

If Team Obama proposed a delaying tactic to make any payback more stealthy, they are in trouble. If, as the last statement appears to indicate, they agreed on an even more stealthy plan using the SEIU it would be worse. We don’t know how deep Team Obama got into the muck, but we do know they were in it. And for Obama to claim the opposite was probably the biggest crime of all.

He had America’s trust, but could not trust America to deal with the obvious aspects of government. He tried to spin a fantasy picture and he is going to be exposed as a charlatan. And when he tries to spin his facade as The One, with answers of hope and change for America, it will all now be seen by many as a lame joke.

This is what many of us feared from the neophyte, from the Junior Senator from Illinois. The man is inept. I, like many, are going to be going out and get those ‘don’t blame me, I voted McCain-Palin’ stickers. Obama has completely and utterly bungled this matter. His credibility is now shot. He has bungled so many things (Iraq to name an obvious one), but this one is probably the worst because he made fools of his most ardent followers. They can no longer claim he is The One, that he will fix politics, that he is different. It really is a stunning fall.

BTW - Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan has just lost all standing in this matter. Now that we know Obama provided her name to Blagojevich via Emmanual she cannot be calling for anything related to this case. She really needs to sit down and be quiet and make sure her name gets cleared. I am not saying she did anything wrong, but for her to put pressure on any of the key players in this could be seen as self serving.

This is such a mess.

Major Update: The yacking pols in Illinois are digging the hole deeper. Just about anyone would agree that controlling who is an allowable candidate for selection to fill Obama’s seat is absolute control over who gets selected. The same story from above notes that Blagojevich could only work from an approved list from Obama, according to one of the candidates and her discussions with Rahm Emmanuel:

Schakowsky also spoke of a conversation she had with Emanuel shortly after he was named chief of staff. She said she called Emanuel “to get some intelligence” on whether Obama might approve of her selection as senator.

“He indicated that the president-elect would be fine with certain people and I was one of them,” Schakowsky said, adding that he did not share the identities of others on the list.

Clearly this indicates Obama had veto power on who could be considered. And since we now know Obama provided Blagojevich the allowable list of candidates it is clear Obama WAS heavily involved in who was selected. No wonder Blagojevich was threatening to seat Jesse Jackson, Jr - he was not on Obama’s list!

Yeah Barack, you had nothing but ‘interest’ in who was selected to fill your seat. You were dictating terms and Blagojevich was dictating terms. That is what we call a ‘negotiation’.
 

Liberty Belle

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Sandhusker, you should find this article interesting. It looks to me like we're in for an interesting time these next four years with a seasoned Illinois politician as president.

Obama Not Connected, But All His Friends Are
by Mac Johnson

12/10/2008

The FBI arrested yet another corrupt Chicago politician yesterday, Illinois Governor “Hot” Rod Blagojevich. This makes two corrupt governors in a row to be arrested for felonies committed in office -- and it solidifies Chicago, Ill. as the most corrupt city in America, narrowly edging out New Orleans. Also arrested was corrupt Chicago politician and Blagojevich Chief of Staff John Harris. The two are accused of attempting to “auction off” Barack Obama’s vacated Senate seat to the highest bidder from the corrupt Chicago political scene. An unknown number of other corrupt Chicago politicians and staffers are also under investigation.

Wow! It’s a good thing America didn’t just elect a longtime Chicago politician to be the next President of the United States.

Oh…wait, that’s just what we did. That’s why Obama’s Senate seat was vacant and available to be auctioned off to some lucky cash-and-carry Democrat contender. Oh well, I’m sure that The Sacred Dalai Obama is not connected to this scandal or Blagojevich in any other way. Very reassuring was Obama’s claim Tuesday that "I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not, aware of what was happening."

The only problem is that one of Obama’s senior advisors, David Axelrod (a former advisor to Blagojevic) went on Chicago TV on November 23 and said definitively regarding Obama’s communications with Blagojevich on whom might acquire Obama’s Senate seat: "I know he's talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them."

This statement was allowed to stand unchallenged for over two weeks until corrupt Chicago politician Blagojevich was indicted and fellow Chicago politician Obama denied having even spoken to Blagojevich regarding the minor matter of who the next Senator from Illinois might be. I mean, why would Obama even care who sits in the Senate or inherits much of Obama’s state political machine?

After Obama’s truthy claim was found to be in conflict with Axelrod’s recorded TV interview statement, however, Obama advisor (and former advisor to Blagojevich) Axelrod issued a statement suddenly remembering that "I was mistaken when I told an interviewer last month that the President-elect has spoken directly to Blagojevich about the Senate vacancy. They did not then or at any time discuss the subject."

Oh good. That seems believable, especially since there are no other known connections between the Obamessiah and corrupt Chicago politician Blagojevich. It’s not like Obama was one of the architects of Blagojevich’s election to the Governor’s office. Oh, wait… according to Obama’s incoming Chief of Staff, Chicago politician Rep. Rahm Emanuel, Obama, an unnamed aide to Blagojevich, Emanuel, and Blagojevich’s campaign chair David Wilhelm were the four generals behind Blagojevich’s election victory. Emanuel stated that Obama and he "participated in a small group that met weekly when Rod was running for governor. We basically laid out the general election, Barack and I and these two."

This statement went unchallenged for months until corrupt Chicago politician Blagojevich was indicted and Chicago politician Obama denied even knowing who the governor of Illinois was. At that point, Chicago politician Rahm Emanuel (an advisor to both Obama and corrupt Chicago politician Blagojevich) suddenly remembered that he was mistaken. Apparently, Emanuel misremembered he and Obama having had major roles in a successful political campaign to elect the sitting governor of Illinois. It will probably turn out that Obama and Emanuel had once just played a heated game of “Risk” with Wilhelm and Blagojevich and Emanuel left thinking he was a “top strategist” for Blagojevich.

Well, at least there are no other connections between Obama and Blagojevich. You know other than corrupt Chicago politician Blagojevich endorsing Obama when, in 2004, Obama won the nomination for the Senate seat now in question. No word on if he won it in a raffle or on eBay. Other than that, there is precious little connection between the two.

Except… for Antoin “Tony” Rezko. Rezko was a major fundraiser for both Blagojevich and Obama and in a remarkable coincidence was recently convicted of… let’s see, what was it? Oh yeah: Bribery. Seems he would funnel money to politicians (in Chicago) and then get favors from them that he would sell to those needing state contracts and such. Like in 2004, he raised $250,000 for Barack Obama’s Senate campaign and in 2006 he bought a vacant lot beside Obama’s house and subdivided it at cost to enlarge Obama’s property, and in return he got… nothing, according to Barack Obama. This appears to be the one instance in Rezko’s back scratching career of profiting from corrupt Chicago politicians that he just gave away a bunch of money for fun. I really believe it. You should too.

Anyway, other than all that, you can be assured that corrupt Chicago politician Blagojevich and Chicago politician Barack Obama have nothing else in common. Except for being close allies of and recipients of funds from Chicago politician and Illinois Senate President Emil Jones. Oh, and they also share another aide, Michael Strautmanis, who is headed to the White House with Obama. Oh, and… well anyway, the important thing is that Obama is a different kind of Chicago politician.

It’s not like he would make appointments to high office in exchange for political favors or fundraising. If that were the case he would name a cabinet and staff full of the established old time politicos that run the Democrat Party -- people that might have done him favors in the campaign or might do him favors in the future. No, he is a candidate of change -- “Change You Can Bid On”. Oops, I mean “Change you Can Believe In.”

Did I mention that Blagojevich’s campaign for Governor (of which Obama was not really an architect or strategist) ran on a message of change and reform? Yeah, there’s no connection there at all.

Mr. Johnson, a writer and medical researcher in Cambridge, Mass., is a regular contributor to HUMAN EVENTS.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=29848
 

Liberty Belle

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Not at all. This is Chicago politics at its best. When you elect a candidate out the sewer, you shouldn't be surprised that the stink stays with him. :???:
 

MoGal

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http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/fraud/us_government/news.php?q=1229296078


This story even ties in more with what you all have.
 
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