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obama fundraising Fraud

hypocritexposer

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October 23, 2008
Set up for fraud
Rosslyn Smith
In Who is John Galt Scott Johnson at Powerline quotes from a reader e-mail he received. The man made a credit card donation to Barak Obama under the name John Galt with the address of 1957 Ayn Rand Lane, Galts Gulch, CO 99999 on a credit card issued in his own name. Obama's site did not require the 3 digit verification code. The donation went through. The reader notes

This simply should not, and could not, happen in any business or any campaign that is honestly trying to vet it's donors. Also, I don't see how this could possibly happen without the collusion of the credit card companies. They simply wouldn't allow any business to process, potentially, hundreds of millions in credit card transactions where the name on the card doesn't match the purchasers name.

In short, with the system set up as it is by the Obama camp, an individual could donate unlimited amounts of money by simply making up fake names and addresses. And Obama is doing his best to facilitate this fraud. This is truly scandalous.


The reader tried to make the same at the McCain website and it was rejected.

As one who buys almost everything but staples online, I know that something is funny here. A typo in the name or address has bounced many a transaction on me and an ever increasing number of vendors now require the security code. It appears however, that it isn't collusion by the credit card companies that allows this to happen. In a follow up Johnson notes

Many readers point out that the Obama campaign would exercise some control over the security level required to verify small dollar transactions and that no collusion with the card issuer or bank is therefore required.


Mark Steyn, who does accept overseas contributions, has weighed in with this observation and gets the credit card companies off the hook. It appears the blame lies solely inside the Obama campaign.

In order to accept financial donations from "John Galt" and "Saddam Hussein", whoever runs the Obama website would have to modify the default security checks required by their merchant processor.

Now sometimes you do have to do a bit of modifying. My website has a lot of customers from overseas, and the default security settings can sometimes be a bit too eager to reject credit cards from countries where the "state or province" box is non-applicable or the postal code is in a non-American format. In other words, the default settings on a US online processing operation (with their bias toward US address formats) should be just what a legitimate US political campaign (anxious not to accept illegal foreign donations) is looking for. Instead, the Obama site appear to have intentionally disabled not only all the address checks (thereby facilitating overseas contributions) but the most basic criterion of all: the card name match (thereby enabling entirely fake contributions). [emphasis added]


This is not sloppiness. It is deliberate. The only thing I find more indicative of criminal intent is the media's disinterest in how the Obama campaign site appears to have been deliberately set up to accept donations from those who are not legally qualified to make them. As Steyn goes on to note.

If the Republican candidate's website were intentionally set up to facilitate fraudulent donations, it would be on the front page of The New York Times. But, as it's King Barack the Spreader, we can rest assured the crack investigative units will be too preoccupied with Governor Palin's shoes over the next two weeks.
 
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In Who is John Galt Scott Johnson at Powerline quotes from a reader e-mail he received. The man made a credit card donation to Barak Obama under the name John Galt with the address of 1957 Ayn Rand Lane, Galts Gulch, CO 99999 on a credit card issued in his own name. Obama's site did not require the 3 digit verification code. The donation went through. The reader notes

This simply should not, and could not, happen in any business or any campaign that is honestly trying to vet it's donors. Also, I don't see how this could possibly happen without the collusion of the credit card companies. They simply wouldn't allow any business to process, potentially, hundreds of millions in credit card transactions where the name on the card doesn't match the purchasers name.

If this is truly happening-- the bigger question is where are all our banking regulators and overseers of our system that are meant to prevent credit card fraud :???: It couldn't be that the FatCat Bankers/Investors buddy, ol GW, told them to all take an 8 year vacation and let them rape and pillage the folks at will- could it :???:
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
In Who is John Galt Scott Johnson at Powerline quotes from a reader e-mail he received. The man made a credit card donation to Barak Obama under the name John Galt with the address of 1957 Ayn Rand Lane, Galts Gulch, CO 99999 on a credit card issued in his own name. Obama's site did not require the 3 digit verification code. The donation went through. The reader notes

This simply should not, and could not, happen in any business or any campaign that is honestly trying to vet it's donors. Also, I don't see how this could possibly happen without the collusion of the credit card companies. They simply wouldn't allow any business to process, potentially, hundreds of millions in credit card transactions where the name on the card doesn't match the purchasers name.

If this is truly happening-- the bigger question is where are all our banking regulators and overseers of our system that are meant to prevent credit card fraud- if this can happen :???: It couldn't be that the FatCat Bankers/Investors buddy, ol GW, told them to all take an 8 year vacation and let them rape and pillage the folks at will- could it :???:

'Mark Steyn, who does accept overseas contributions, has weighed in with this observation and gets the credit card companies off the hook. It appears the blame lies solely inside the Obama campaign. "

"In order to accept financial donations from "John Galt" and "Saddam Hussein", whoever runs the Obama website would have to modify the default security checks required by their merchant processor."

Why not put the blame where it belongs - Obama? Why is it always somebody else's fault or "Yeah, but he did it, too"? What is it about the concept of responsibility for one's actions that Liberals just can't grasp?
 

hypocritexposer

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the bigger question is where are all our banking regulators and overseers of our system that are meant to prevent credit card fraud- if this can happen

Would these be the same banks and regulators that the Democrats are now giving bailouts to?
 
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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
In Who is John Galt Scott Johnson at Powerline quotes from a reader e-mail he received. The man made a credit card donation to Barak Obama under the name John Galt with the address of 1957 Ayn Rand Lane, Galts Gulch, CO 99999 on a credit card issued in his own name. Obama's site did not require the 3 digit verification code. The donation went through. The reader notes

This simply should not, and could not, happen in any business or any campaign that is honestly trying to vet it's donors. Also, I don't see how this could possibly happen without the collusion of the credit card companies. They simply wouldn't allow any business to process, potentially, hundreds of millions in credit card transactions where the name on the card doesn't match the purchasers name.

If this is truly happening-- the bigger question is where are all our banking regulators and overseers of our system that are meant to prevent credit card fraud- if this can happen :???: It couldn't be that the FatCat Bankers/Investors buddy, ol GW, told them to all take an 8 year vacation and let them rape and pillage the folks at will- could it :???:

'Mark Steyn, who does accept overseas contributions, has weighed in with this observation and gets the credit card companies off the hook. It appears the blame lies solely inside the Obama campaign. "

"In order to accept financial donations from "John Galt" and "Saddam Hussein", whoever runs the Obama website would have to modify the default security checks required by their merchant processor."

Why not put the blame where it belongs - Obama? Why is it always somebody else's fault or "Yeah, but he did it, too"? What is it about the concept of responsibility for one's actions that Liberals just can't grasp?

Looks to me like nobodies money is safe then- especially in a bank if they let anyone take it out :???:
Safer under the mattress protected by my 45 Auto ...
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
The money came from credit cards, not bank withdrawls.

You elected a real gem...

A big bunch of credit cards come from BANKS/Lending institutions....
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
The money came from credit cards, not bank withdrawls.

You elected a real gem...

A big bunch of credit cards come from BANKS/Lending institutions....

You're blaming them when the vendor (the Obama campaign) changed the security checks? Who's the one pulling the shenanigans? The credit card companies honor the requests as there is sort of an implied undertanding that the vendor isn't breaking the law. :roll: The person holding the gun is to blame, not the gun.
 
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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
The money came from credit cards, not bank withdrawls.

You elected a real gem...

A big bunch of credit cards come from BANKS/Lending institutions....

You're blaming them when the vendor (the Obama campaign) changed the security checks? Who's the one pulling the shenanigans? The credit card companies honor the requests as there is sort of an implied undertanding that the vendor isn't breaking the law. :roll: The person holding the gun is to blame, not the gun.

Another good reason not to have credit cards...You're doing a good job SH convincing me to have no trust or faith in the banking/credit system....
 

hypocritexposer

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The owners of the credit cards will get their money back, it's been proven as fraud already. So what did Obama get,

A LOAN, from both unsuspecting American citizens and foriegn citizens!
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
The owners of the credit cards will get their money back, it's been proven as fraud already. So what did Obama get,

A LOAN, from both unsuspecting American citizens and foriegn citizens!

OH-You mean a bailout-- like Bush's Fatcat Banker buddies did-- that they now can't trace where they spent the money- nor will Paulson force them to :roll: :wink: :lol: :(
 

hypocritexposer

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The past was bad, so let's make the future worse?

Thanks for the Change! that's all we're going to have in our pockets with Obama, change.

Not 2 nickels to rub together.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
A big bunch of credit cards come from BANKS/Lending institutions....

You're blaming them when the vendor (the Obama campaign) changed the security checks? Who's the one pulling the shenanigans? The credit card companies honor the requests as there is sort of an implied undertanding that the vendor isn't breaking the law. :roll: The person holding the gun is to blame, not the gun.

Another good reason not to have credit cards...You're doing a good job SH convincing me to have no trust or faith in the banking/credit system....

This isn't about problems with credit cards, it's about campaign fraud. You’re not convincing me that you really give a dang about fraud, as long as the chosen One is doing it. All you’re doing is tying to shift blame and change the topic.
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
You're blaming them when the vendor (the Obama campaign) changed the security checks? Who's the one pulling the shenanigans? The credit card companies honor the requests as there is sort of an implied undertanding that the vendor isn't breaking the law. :roll: The person holding the gun is to blame, not the gun.

Another good reason not to have credit cards...You're doing a good job SH convincing me to have no trust or faith in the banking/credit system....

This isn't about problems with credit cards, it's about campaign fraud. You’re not convincing me that you really give a dang about fraud, as long as the chosen One is doing it. All you’re doing is tying to shift blame and change the topic.

Fraud is Fraud- and should be enforced...But GW can't as he did away with all enforcement and regulation that he was sworn to uphold...The Rule of Law suffered a 200 years setback with GW......
 

Sandhusker

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FRAUD SHOULDN'T BE COMMITTED IN THE FIRST GDANG PLACE!!!! This isn't about Bush, and I don't buy the notion that there is nobody around to enforce any laws! THIS IS ABOUT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN KNOWINGLY BREAKING THE DAMN LAW - AND ABOUT LIBS EXCUSING THE DAMN SNAKE!
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
FRAUD SHOULDN'T BE COMMITTED IN THE FIRST GDANG PLACE!!!! This isn't about Bush, and I don't buy the notion that there is nobody around to enforce any laws! THIS IS ABOUT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN KNOWINGLY BREAKING THE DAMN LAW - AND ABOUT LIBS EXCUSING THE DAMN SNAKE!

IF it actually happened-- why isn't Mukasey as sworn Chief law enforcer of the country swarming all over it :???: ....Why aren't investigators from both the Banking regulators and FEC scouring the books- and filing indictments :???:

Sandy-- you better buy some more tinfoil to handle all these rightwing/leftwing joint conspiracies that have you so enthralled..... :wink: :lol: :p
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
FRAUD SHOULDN'T BE COMMITTED IN THE FIRST GDANG PLACE!!!! This isn't about Bush, and I don't buy the notion that there is nobody around to enforce any laws! THIS IS ABOUT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN KNOWINGLY BREAKING THE DAMN LAW - AND ABOUT LIBS EXCUSING THE DAMN SNAKE!

IF it actually happened-- why isn't Mukasey as sworn Chief law enforcer of the country swarming all over it :???: ....Why aren't investigators from both the Banking regulators and FEC scouring the books- and filing indictments :???:

Sandy-- you better buy some more tinfoil to handle all these rightwing/leftwing joint conspiracies that have you so enthralled..... :wink: :lol: :p

We know it happened, OT! Read the first paragraph! We also know that Obama's aunt (the illegal alien) made contributions! You don't seem to give a crap that the guy you voted for blatantly broke the law.
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
FRAUD SHOULDN'T BE COMMITTED IN THE FIRST GDANG PLACE!!!! This isn't about Bush, and I don't buy the notion that there is nobody around to enforce any laws! THIS IS ABOUT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN KNOWINGLY BREAKING THE DAMN LAW - AND ABOUT LIBS EXCUSING THE DAMN SNAKE!

IF it actually happened-- why isn't Mukasey as sworn Chief law enforcer of the country swarming all over it :???: ....Why aren't investigators from both the Banking regulators and FEC scouring the books- and filing indictments :???:

Sandy-- you better buy some more tinfoil to handle all these rightwing/leftwing joint conspiracies that have you so enthralled..... :wink: :lol: :p

We know it happened, OT! Read the first paragraph! We also know that Obama's aunt (the illegal alien) made contributions! You don't seem to give a crap that the guy you voted for blatantly broke the law.

You mean the illegal alien that shouldn't have even been in the country-- if GW hadn't given the Immigration Boys a vacation and thru out all those laws too- including the one of having to be a legal immigrant to get loans to buy property and thereby defraud the country.... :roll:

So IF it happened (an article from a biased publication saying so is not proof)- why is Bush and Mukasey not going after prosecution of those involved :???: Rightwing coverup :???: Conspiracy :???:
Keep the tinfoil handy Sandy :wink: :lol: :p
 

Cal

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
A big bunch of credit cards come from BANKS/Lending institutions....

You're blaming them when the vendor (the Obama campaign) changed the security checks? Who's the one pulling the shenanigans? The credit card companies honor the requests as there is sort of an implied undertanding that the vendor isn't breaking the law. :roll: The person holding the gun is to blame, not the gun.

Another good reason not to have credit cards...You're doing a good job SH convincing me to have no trust or faith in the banking/credit system....
This is probably quite a stretch.....but have you gone anywhere in the last twenty years or more and tried to rent a car, or reserve a room, or buy a plane ticket, or ran short of cash out of state, or even needed to buy gas on a long trip?
 
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