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Obama has set in motion forces that he can't handle

hypocritexposer

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February 17, 2013
President Obama has set in motion forces that he can't handle.
Neil Snyder

Barack Obama is a terrible president. That's obvious to everyone who isn't chronically ignorant or incurably liberal. By "liberal" I don't mean the classic definition of the word which has to do with being open-minded and objective. I mean the modern version of liberal: self-centered, emotional, illogical, and void of reason. Unfortunately, in 2012 ignoramuses and liberals represented the majority of those who voted. I'm not worried about offending them with my harsh words. My very existence offends them, and so does yours if you don't buy into their worldview.

From economic policy to energy policy to environmental policy to foreign affairs to national security to border security to you name it, the president failed the test, but we re-elected him anyway. Obama's misadventures in the Oval Office are becoming the stuff of legend. Benghazi and Fast and Furious are two of his more high profile blunders, but they aren't the only ones. If George W. Bush had committed just one of those offenses, the mainstream media would have demanded his head on a platter, but they gave Obama a free pass. The nation as a whole became complicit in the president's shenanigans because we didn't demand that he be held accountable.

President Obama has done one thing superbly well: he has demonstrated skill par excellence on a national scale as a community organizer. He is second to none when it comes to inciting, agitating, race baiting, stoking fears, and motivating the masses. If you discount voter fraud, more than anything else, those skills got him re-elected. But like a snowball gathering momentum as it rolls down a hill, the forces that he has unleashed will be impossible to stop without pain and suffering.

For example, Occupy Wall Street's demands for social justice dovetailed perfectly with the president's fairness campaign. Was that coincidence or was it by design? The answer should be obvious, but whatever the case may be, the OWS crowd eventually ran amuck in cities across the fruited plain until government officials finally took action to shut them down.

That's the way it is with unruly mobs. Once agitators get them started, you never know what will happen. But we do know this: President Obama is their champion, and they are still among us waiting in the wings for another opportunity to vent their frustrations. Will the next version of OWS be more malevolent than the first? Only time will tell, but I wouldn't rule it out.

OWS types aren't alone. In the United States today, large and growing numbers of people believe that their mere existence is their contribution to society. They think that those of us who have worked hard all of our lives owe them a living, and not just a living, but a very good living. The takers among us are easy pickings for a man with exceptional community organizing skills, and as I said, the forces that the president has unleashed will prove to be impossible to control. If they explode, there will be hell to pay.

Common sense is totally absent in their world. For instance, who would dare to suggest that the 1% who paid almost 40% of federal income taxes in 2010 should pay more because it's "fair" even though about 50% of our fellow citizens paid no federal income tax? The answer: Barack Obama and his merry band of malcontents. If George Orwell were alive today, he would be scratching his head and thinking about a mind-bending plot for another novel.

Takers have no misgivings about attaching themselves permanently to the government tit, and they feel no guilt or shame as they scream for more. Obama knows them and their predilections all too well, and he takes advantage of every opportunity to stoke the fires that burn within them. The president's mother and his grandparents should have taught him the basics -- things like if you play with matches, you will get burned -- because the fire that he's igniting can easily turn into an inferno. If it does, all of us will pay a very high price.

In due course, simple mathematics will dictate that we can't afford to keep able bodied men and women on the dole. Our current debt and deficit situation is so dire that something has got to give. Judging by a recent Gallup poll, most Americans agree with me, but metaphorically speaking, it may take a swift kick in a sensitive area to wake up our elected officials in Washington. Be that as it may, the day is rapidly approaching when no one can ignore our fiscal quagmire because the combination of Medicare, Social Security, and defense spending plus interest on the debt and paying freeloaders threatens to sink this nation.

Reneging on our national debt is out of the question since global pandemonium would ensue. Obamacare may help to reduce healthcare costs, but when evidence mounts that those "death panels" that we have heard so much about are real and that we are saving money by medicating patients and allowing them to pass away peacefully rather than treating their maladies, people will be hopping mad. Many of them will take to the streets to vent their anger. If you think that it can't happen here, you haven't been paying attention.

Social Security is a special breed of cat because it involves seniors, a powerful voting block, and it is regarded as a national promise that we must not break. Besides, people actually paid in to Social Security as did their employers so it's an annuity -- and not a very good one at that. Any politician who thinks that he can safely tamper with Social Security isn't playing with a full deck of cards. Even so, we can't solve our debt and deficit problems unless we make adjustments in Social Security and Medicare. It's the quintessential Catch 22.

Similarly, we need to cut defense spending without jeopardizing our national security, but defense reductions translate into job cuts and that creates another set of problems. No matter what we do, people will not be happy with the outcome, and many of them will vent their frustration in the voting booth and possibly on the streets.

This is the point: a perfect storm is brewing. I think we're heading for a chaotic and violent period in this country the likes of which no one alive today has ever witnessed. If I'm right, conditions will be ideal for criminals to ply their craft, and President Obama is pushing for gun control at precisely the wrong moment.

I believe that what I have described is realistic and unfortunately inevitable, and that brings me back to my back to the president. He has set in motion forces that he can't handle, and all of us are going to suffer the consequences so get ready for a wild ride.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/02/president_obama_has_set_in_motion_forces_that_he_cant_handle.html
 

Mike

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This is the point: a perfect storm is brewing. I think we're heading for a chaotic and violent period in this country the likes of which no one alive today has ever witnessed. If I'm right, conditions will be ideal for criminals to ply their craft, and President Obama is pushing for gun control at precisely the wrong moment.

I believe that what I have described is realistic and unfortunately inevitable, and that brings me back to my back to the president. He has set in motion forces that he can't handle, and all of us are going to suffer the consequences so get ready for a wild ride.

I'm hearing some mighty ugly statements being made on both sides of the political spectrum.

And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure. - Thomas Jefferson
 

MoGal

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While he may be correct in that a storm is brewing, he forgets to mention that the US government has biological warfare that they can spread in the air and sicken the population. I was reading last week that one of the first US biological warfare weapons was brucellosis (I don't have any idea if that is true or not).

Electromagnetic waves or ELF can affect behavior, can increase suicide and agitation in addition to affecting one's health..... just google electromagnetic waves and disease or ELF and disease......

The DSM V mental health handbook has a psychiatric diagnosis for every human emotion and that's no joke and you can believe pharmacy has a drug for you as well.

The FDA serves corporate money and allows all kinds of heavy metals in our foods.... google "heavy metals and disease" and that makes people sick and many are being treated for another diagnosis when its heavy metals that's causing the sickness in the first place.

It's kind of hard for people to stand up when they are being poisoned and are physically sick and no one expects their own government to be the one doing them in.

It's no accident that 70% of Americans are iodine, magnesium or Vitamin d3 deficient.
 

Mike

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MoGal said:
While he may be correct in that a storm is brewing, he forgets to mention that the US government has biological warfare that they can spread in the air and sicken the population. I was reading last week that one of the first US biological warfare weapons was brucellosis (I don't have any idea if that is true or not).

Electromagnetic waves or ELF can affect behavior, can increase suicide and agitation in addition to affecting one's health..... just google electromagnetic waves and disease or ELF and disease......

The DSM V mental health handbook has a psychiatric diagnosis for every human emotion and that's no joke and you can believe pharmacy has a drug for you as well.

The FDA serves corporate money and allows all kinds of heavy metals in our foods.... google "heavy metals and disease" and that makes people sick and many are being treated for another diagnosis when its heavy metals that's causing the sickness in the first place.

It's kind of hard for people to stand up when they are being poisoned and are physically sick and no one expects their own government to be the one doing them in.

It's no accident that 70% of Americans are iodine, magnesium or Vitamin d3 deficient.


Chemical & Biological Testing has been going on for many years. Got a buddy who worked on this site. He told me they found Smallpox, several different strains of wheat & potato blights for warfare. They were amazed that the testing was done out in the open amongst a huge residential area.
Fort Detrick is an active U.S. Army Installation operated under the Army Medical Command (MEDCOM), in Frederick, Maryland. Fort Detrick is located within the city limits of Frederick and is surrounded by residential areas and county-owned land.

Fort Detrick consists of three non-contiguous tracts of land designated as Areas A, B, and
C. Area B is the only area of Fort Detrick that is currently on the NPL. Area B occupies approximately 399 acres. Initially, Area B was established as a proving ground in the Army's Biological Warfare program. Later, Area B was used as a disposal area for chemical, biological, and radiological (CBR) material and until 1970 for biological experimentation.

Area B has been the primary location of waste management activities for Fort Detrick and is the location of an active municipal landfill, animal farm, former skeet range, former explosives storage area, and former waste disposal/test areas associated with former research activities. In the late 1940s, the Special Operations Group of Fort Detrick installed a test grid in Area B to test both live and simulant biological warfare (BW) materials. A list of the live agent materials used in Area B is not available, but it is known that simulant materials used included Bacillus globigii, Serratia marcescens, and Escherichia coli. Test animals were buried in trenches or pits located in Area B after autoclave sterilization. Many types of munitions were tested on the grid in Area B. A residential community is located within 100 feet of the Area B disposal areas.

Anthrax was buried in Area B. In addition, radiological tracer materials were reportedly buried at three locations in Area B, including radioactive carbon, sulfur, and phosphorous. Two cylinders marked "Phosgene" were also reportedly buried in Area B. Phosgene is considered a lethal chemical agent.

http://www.epa.gov/reg3hwmd/npl/MDD985397249.htm
 

MoGal

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My understanding was that the plant going up or already built in Kansas is supposed to be a biological warfare place. Just what we need in the Midwest, isn't it??
 
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MoGal said:
My understanding was that the plant going up or already built in Kansas is supposed to be a biological warfare place. Just what we need in the Midwest, isn't it??

Friday, April 11, 2008
An animal disease lab

In the middle of animal country. That is what is being proposed here in the USA right now. (I wrote about this in the Farm Side a long time ago. Wish the paper was a free site so you could read it.) It seems absolutely nuts to me to put an animal virus research lab containing live viruses, with the potential to kill off every cow, sheep and goat in the country, in the middle of farm and ranch land. An accidental release of animal virus would most likely result in a devastating mess. During a simulation of what might occur should foot and mouth disease virus escape into the the American cattle population the end result was food shortages so severe there was rioting in the streets and so many cattle killed that the National Guard ran out of bullets."In the exercise, the government said it would have been forced to dig a ditch in Kansas 25 miles long to bury carcasses."

Our existing lab, Plum Island, which is located off Long Island, is said not to be secure enough so a new lab must be built. (We put men on the moon, others in orbit and we can't make our existing facility secure enough? Doesn't make much sense to me.) However, even if a new lab is required, putting it in Kansas (where last time I looked there are an awful lot of cows) seems insane. Great Britain found out just last year that accidental virus release can and will happen. I am behind those in Congress who want some more research done before this decision is finalized.
http://northviewdiary.blogspot.com/2008/04/animal-disease-lab.html

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Dangerous Animal Virus on US Mainland?




Apr 11, 3:55 AM (ET)

By LARRY MARGASAK


WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration is likely to move its research on one of the most contagious animal diseases from an isolated island laboratory to the U.S. mainland near herds of livestock, raising concerns about a catastrophic outbreak.

Skeptical Democrats in Congress are demanding to see internal documents they believe highlight the risks and consequences of the decision. An epidemic of the disease, foot and mouth, which only affects animals, could devastate the livestock industry.

One such government report, produced last year and already turned over to lawmakers by the Homeland Security Department, combined commercial satellite images and federal farm data to show the proximity to livestock herds of locations that have been considered for the new lab. "Would an accidental laboratory release at these locations have the potential to affect nearby livestock?" asked the nine-page document. It did not directly answer the question.

A simulated outbreak of the disease - part of an earlier U.S. government exercise called "Crimson Sky" - ended with fictional riots in the streets after the simulation's National Guardsmen were ordered to kill tens of millions of farm animals, so many that troops ran out of bullets. In the exercise, the government said it would have been forced to dig a ditch in Kansas 25 miles long to bury carcasses. In the simulation, protests broke out in some cities amid food shortages.


"It was a mess," said Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., who portrayed the president in the 2002 exercise. Now, like other lawmakers from the states under consideration, Roberts supports moving the government's new lab to his state. Manhattan, Kan., is one of five mainland locations under consideration. "It will mean jobs" and spur research and development, he says.

The other possible locations for the new National Bio-and Agro-Defense Facility are Athens, Ga.; Butner, N.C.; San Antonio; and Flora, Miss. The new site could be selected later this year, and the lab would open by 2014. The numbers of livestock in the counties and surrounding areas of the finalists range from 542,507 in Kansas to 132,900 in Georgia, according to the Homeland Security study.

Foot-and-mouth virus can be carried on a worker's breath or clothes, or vehicles leaving a lab, and is so contagious it has been confined to Plum Island, N.Y., for more than a half-century - far from commercial livestock. The existing lab is 100 miles northeast of New York City in the Long Island Sound, accessible only by ferry or helicopter. Researchers there who work with the live virus are not permitted to own animals at home that would be susceptible, and they must wait at least a week before attending outside events where such animals might perform, such as a circus.

The White House says modern safety rules at labs are sufficient to avoid any outbreak. But incidents in Britain have demonstrated that the foot-and-mouth virus can cause remarkable economic havoc - and that the virus can escape from a facility.

An epidemic in 2001 devastated Britain's livestock industry, as the government slaughtered 6 million sheep, cows and pigs. Last year, in a less serious outbreak, Britain's health and safety agency concluded the virus probably escaped from a site shared by a government research center and a vaccine maker. Other outbreaks have occurred in Taiwan in 1997 and China last year and in 2006.

If even a single cow signals an outbreak in the U.S., emergency plans permit the government to shut down all exports and movement of livestock. Herds would be quarantined, and a controlled slaughter could be started to stop the disease from spreading.

Infected animals weaken and lose weight. Milk cows don't produce milk. They remain highly infectious, even if they survive the virus.

The Homeland Security Department is convinced it can safely operate the lab on the mainland, saying containment procedures at high-security labs have improved. The livestock industry is divided. Some experts, including the former director at the aging Plum Island Animal Disease Center, say research ought to be kept away from cattle populations - and, ideally, placed where the public already has accepted dangerous research.

The former director, Dr. Roger Breeze, suggested the facility could be safely located at the Atlanta campus of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, or at Fort Detrick in Frederick, Md., home of The United States Army Medical Research Institute for infectious diseases.

Another possibility, Breeze said, is on Long Island, where there is no commercial livestock industry. That would allow retention of most of the current Plum Island employees.

Asked about the administration's finalist sites located near livestock, Breeze said: "It seems a little odd. It goes against the ... safety program of the last 50 years."

The former head of the U.S. Agriculture Department's Agricultural Research Service said Americans are not prepared for a foot-and-mouth outbreak that has been avoided on the mainland since 1929.

"The horrific prospect of exterminating potentially millions of animals is not something this country's ready for," said Dr. Floyd Horn.

The Agriculture Department ran the Plum Island lab until 2003. It was turned over to the Homeland Security Department because preventing an outbreak is now part of the nation's biological defense program.

Plum Island researchers work on detection of the disease, strategies to control epidemics including vaccines and drugs, tests of imported animals to ensure they are free of the virus and training of professionals.

The new facility will add research on diseases that can be transferred from animals to humans. The Plum Island facility is not secure enough to handle that higher-level research.

Leaders of the House Energy and Commerce Committee also are worried about the lab's likely move to the mainland. The chairman, Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., and the head of the investigations subcommittee, Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., are threatening to subpoena records they say Homeland Security is withholding from Congress. Those records include reports about "Crimson Sky," an internal review about a publicized 1978 accidental release of foot-and-mouth disease on Plum Island and reports about any previously undisclosed virus releases on the island during the past half century.

The lawmakers set a deadline of Friday for the administration to turn over reports they requested. Otherwise, they warned in a letter to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, they will arrange a vote next week to issue a congressional subpoena.

A new facility at Plum Island is technically a possibility. Signs point to a mainland site, however, after the administration spent considerable time and money scouting new locations. Also, there are financial concerns about operating from a location accessible only by ferry or helicopter.

The Homeland Security Department says laboratory animals would not be corralled outside the new facility, and they would not come into contact with local livestock. All work with the virus and lab waste would be handled securely and any material leaving would be treated and monitored to ensure it was sterilized.

"Containment technology has improved dramatically since foot-and-mouth disease prohibitions were put in place in 1948," Homeland Security spokeswoman Amy Kudwa said.

Cattle farmers and residents are divided over the proposal to move the lab to the mainland.

"I would like to believe we could build a facility, with the knowledge and technology we have available, that would be basically safe from a bio-security standpoint," said John Stuedemann, a cattle farmer near Athens, Ga., and a former scientist at the Agriculture Department.

Nearby, community activist Grady Thrasher in Athens is worried about an outbreak from a research lab. Thrasher, a former securities lawyer, has started a petition drive against moving the lab to Georgia, saying the risks are too great.

"There's no way you can balance that equation by putting this in the middle of a community where it will do the most harm," Thrasher said. "The community is now aroused, so I think we have a majority against this."

In North Carolina, commissioners in Granville County originally endorsed moving the lab to their area but later withdrew support. Officials from Homeland Security ultimately met with residents for more than four hours, but the commissioners have taken no further action to back the facility.

"Accidents are going to happen 50 years down the road or one year down the road," said Bill McKellar, a pharmacist in Butner, N.C., who leads an opposition group that has formed a research committee of lawyers and doctors.



http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20080411/D8VVHK7G0.html

You mean this one that GW decided to move to Kansas... You can sleep sound MoGal- because GW says you're plumb safe... :wink: :p :lol:

Maybe some of you Kansas/southern folk can update- did this get built or is it still being built?
I know at one time Senator Testor had gotten Congress to stop it-- but then the Kansas Delegation began lobbying for it :???: -- so I don't know what happened..
 

hypocritexposer

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Just like that water pipeline in Montana, I think obama and the ARRA get the credit for funding the lab in Kansas.


The construction contracts were not awarded until after obama was President.

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=3066987df9b45f8be628663937172eb7&tab=core&_cview=1
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Just like that water pipeline in Montana, I think obama and the ARRA get the credit for funding the lab in Kansas.


The construction contracts were not awarded until after obama was President.

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=3066987df9b45f8be628663937172eb7&tab=core&_cview=1

So whats MoGal worried about then- both GW and Obama agree to it-- must be bipartisan safe-- EH?
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Just like that water pipeline in Montana, I think obama and the ARRA get the credit for funding the lab in Kansas.


The construction contracts were not awarded until after obama was President.

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=3066987df9b45f8be628663937172eb7&tab=core&_cview=1

So whats MoGal worried about then- both GW and Obama agree to it-- must be bipartisan safe-- EH?

I'm pretty sure if you ask her, she thinks both obama and Bush are about the same, yes.

Andher feeling about the lab has probably has not wavered, unlike Dems. Who questioned the safety until obama became President and were then all for it.

People like you like to call MoGal "crazy" and other names, like the trolls you describe, but she is not the flip flopper that you are.
 

MoGal

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You're right Hypo. I do think Bush pursued and Obama is definitely pursuing an agenda totally different than what America and its people need.
Most people refuse to believe its spiritual warfare going on and that its all about Jesus and the devil. Just like that book, Behold a Pale Horse, he presents the occult thinking, but then you have to look at what the Bible says because that is what will happen. People aren't reading Aleister Crowley, Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Manley Hall or Adam Weishaupt books.

Most Americans find it hard to believe that anyone could be so evil that they would want total control over another person down to the very morsel of food they eat.

The other day I was thinking to myself that someday when most people are living in government housing (like China and Russia do), have been totally disarmed, are under surveillance 24/7, with an RFID chip in their right hand... I can just hear them saying, "that new world order stuff is a conspiracy because I can't see it happening"......... maybe they'll wake up when one of God's judgments on them is that locusts with a sting of a scorpion will sting for five months anyone who has the mark of the beast in their hand or forehead. At one point the RFID chips contained the same acid as what fireants produce... I don't know if they still do or not.

Yes, I do admit I search out natural health cures a lot and read at least the first 20 pages of a google search. Firefox will let you open about 20 tabs at a time so its easier to look at. You can thin your blood with omega 3's, why would I want to take rat poison coumadin?

I don't like it that they are putting aborted human fetus, monkey, pig and bovine cells in vaccines as well as mercury. Why are they trying to change our DNA? Humans have a dual helix dna and animals have a triple helix dna. Science is doing the same as what the fallen angels did... mess with the gene pool and the Book of Enoch says they messed with the animal kingdom as well just to irritate God.

Anyone ever notice most of these killer viruses have pig and/or bovine cells in them? AND you think I'm happy about that plant in Kansas? No, I'm not.
 

Whitewing

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Interesting article Hypo and it mirrors some of what I've said America will experience in the coming years.

The parallels between what I see here in Venezuela and what's taking place in America are striking. While the mindset of Americans is generally different than a Venezuelan's, there's a growing percentage of the Amercian population who believe they're owed, and intend to collect it. In that respect, they're no different than the average Venezuelan.

Here, the SOP is to sit back, watch others work their fingers to the bone, and then when it's time to "harvest", rob them. Is that really significantly different than what's being preached by the White House these days? As the guy says, 50% of the population isn't paying any federal income taxes, 1% of the population pays 40% of the tax revenue confiscated by the feds, but that 1% isn't paying their fair share in the eyes of the King.

Those last comments about crime and gun control? Well, that scenario is exactly what's taken place here since Chavez took over. Crime has skyrocketed as gun control measures have increased dramatically.

You folks have no idea what's coming to America.
 

loomixguy

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Whitewing said:
Interesting article Hypo and it mirrors some of what I've said America will experience in the coming years.

The parallels between what I see here in Venezuela and what's taking place in America are striking. While the mindset of Americans is generally different than a Venezuelan's, there's a growing percentage of the Amercian population who believe they're owed, and intend to collect it. In that respect, they're no different than the average Venezuelan.

Here, the SOP is to sit back, watch others work their fingers to the bone, and then when it's time to "harvest", rob them. Is that really significantly different than what's being preached by the White House these days? As the guy says, 50% of the population isn't paying any federal income taxes, 1% of the population pays 40% of the tax revenue confiscated by the feds, but that 1% isn't paying their fair share in the eyes of the King.

Those last comments about crime and gun control? Well, that scenario is exactly what's taken place here since Chavez took over. Crime has skyrocketed as gun control measures have increased dramatically.

You folks have no idea what's coming to America.

Pretty much the same in the Philippines. The driven and industrious work and do their best to get ahead, and the lazy a$$es wait to get theirs at the point of a gun, knife (bolo), or icepick.

During the Marcos regime, a white man could walk anywhere in Manila and be safe. Today, the only white folks out walking in Manila are either incredibly stupid or living in fantasy land. From the second you exit the plane, you have a huge target on your back.

Soon, here in the US, we will all be second class citizens in a third world country.
 
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