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Obama: I'm Not A Socialist

Mike

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Would anybody have ever asked Reagan if he were Socialist? :lol:


March 7, 2009
Obama: I'm not a socialist
The Hill
@ 4:53 pm by Michael O'Brien
President Obama argued this weekend that he is not, in fact, a socialist, despite veiled Republican claims to the contrary.

"Let’s take a look at the budget – the answer would be no," Obama said during his interview with the New York Times."If you look at our budget, what you have is a very disciplined, fiscally responsible budget, along with an effort to deal with some very serious problems that have been put off for a very long time."

The president said that his administration's spending priorities have been completely in line with what he'd promised as a candidate last fall, and that he's not more liberal than he let on.

"We have delivered on every promise that we’ve made so far," he said.

When pressed by reporters for the Times as to what one word he would use to characterize his political philosophy, Obama declined. "No, I’m not going to engage in that," he said.

Marxist? :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

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"Let’s take a look at the budget – the answer would be no," Obama said during his interview with the New York Times."If you look at our budget, what you have is a very disciplined, fiscally responsible budget, along with an effort to deal with some very serious problems that have been put off for a very long time."

Serious problems like tattoos and grape genetics.

He was a member of a socialist group, raised by a socialist/communist mother, and campaigned for his cousin, who was also a communist.

When pressed by reporters for the Times as to what one word he would use to characterize his political philosophy, Obama declined. "No, I’m not going to engage in that," he said.

Can we see your membership card then?
 

Cal

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Does anyone on here really believe he's a capitalist, or patriot, or anything that made this country great?
 

MsSage

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Totalitarian regimes or movements maintain themselves in political power by means of an official all-embracing ideology and propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that controls the state, personality cults, control over the economy, regulation and restriction of free discussion and criticism, the use of mass surveillance, and widespread use of terror tactics.
We have to pass this budge NOW or face a major Crisis
Everything is a CRISIS :roll:
Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital,
Redistrubution of wealth
 

Ben H

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If we want a socialist country let's have the discussion. Let's go all the way. But STOP feeding it to me one bite at a time and calling it something else.
 

SMN Herf

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Mike said:
Would anybody have ever asked Reagan if he were Socialist? :lol:


March 7, 2009
Obama: I'm not a socialist
The Hill
@ 4:53 pm by Michael O'Brien
... Obama said during his interview with the New York Times."If you look at our budget, what you have is a very disciplined, fiscally responsible budget....

The president said that his administration's spending priorities have been completely in line with what he'd promised as a candidate last fall, and that he's not more liberal than he let on.

Marxist? :lol:

Call him whatever you want, but if he calls his budget fiscally responsible, I would hate to see what his vision of unresponsible would be. :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

Steve

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Cal said:
Does anyone on here really believe he's a capitalist, or patriot, or anything that made this country great?

student,.. cummunity organizer... a half term as a senator,.. no you can't accuse him of capitalism... (other then his book deal)...

Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society, and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society.
 

Faster horses

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...If you look at our budget, what you have is a very disciplined, fiscally responsible budget, along with an effort to deal with some very serious problems that have been put off for a very long time." ...

I swear, this zer0 can look ANYONE straight in the face and LIE, LIE, LIE.
That's something you get good at only if you are well-practiced. :twisted:
 

hypocritexposer

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I swear, this zer0 can look ANYONE straight in the face and LIE, LIE, LIE.
That's something you get good at only if you are well-practiced

That's why the prompter is so important! Speeches give you the opportunity to answer the questions you want asked.

Answering to strawmen is also a good technique to cover your lying. "I've heard some ask", really, why don't you name them?
 

Mike

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At some point, that kind of question may become a felony, but for now, some brave reporter just asked Obama point-blank, "Are you a Socialist." Obama's answer is interesting.

From Politico.


In the interview, Obama curtly dismissed a question asking if he is a socialist, as some Republican lawmakers and commentators have asserted.

"The answer would be no," Obama said. He went on to argue that the budget plan he set out last month is remarkably restrained.

"Let’s just take a look at what we’ve done....That part of the budget that doesn’t include entitlements and doesn’t include defense – that we have the most control over – we’re actually setting on a downward trajectory in terms of percentage of G.D.P. So we’re making more tough choices in terms of eliminating programs and cutting back on spending than any administration has done in a very long time," he declared. [me - I have to assume there was muted laughter from the press corps at that whopper].

One of the Times journalists, Jeff Zeleny, tried to ask if there would be "anything wrong" with acknowledging that he was a Socialist. Obama declined to take the bait, but clearly bristled at the "socialist" label. He called the newspaper back later to suggest the label, would be better applied to his predecessor, President Bush.

"It was hard for me to believe that you were entirely serious about that socialist question. I did think it might be useful to point out that it wasn’t under me that we started buying a bunch of shares of banks. It wasn’t on my watch," Obama said in the follow-up call. "And it wasn’t on my watch that we passed a massive new entitlement – the prescription drug plan without a source of funding. And so I think it’s important just to note when you start hearing folks throw these words around that we’ve actually been operating in a way that has been entirely consistent with free-market principles and that some of the same folks who are throwing the word socialist around can’t say the same."


Bush was a Socialist? Let's take Obama at his word that Bush is a Socialist (it requires the willing suspension of disbelief, I know). If Bush is a Socialist, then we can presume that Obama would also agree that he, Obama, is to the left of George W. Bush, which makes Obama what . . . a Communist? It there a political doctrine to the left of a Socialist that is something other than a Commie? If there is, somebody please enlighten me.

And if "passing massive new entitlements" is our marker for Socialists, then what the hell do you call nationalized health care?

By the way, if he is not a Socialist, then who is? Europe is infested with admitted Socialists who have enacted all the same policies Obama is enacting. But he's not a Socialist.

In that fantasy world known as Obamaland, the Republicans are the Socialists.

And this guy went to college?
 
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