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Obama proof of citizenship poll

Should Obama show his vaulted copy of his Birth Certificate and college records to the Supreme Court

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hypocritexposer

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With all the uproar about Obama's citizenship, and the waste of money being spent, isn't it time he proved that these are worthless claims?

Before someone does something stupid, would it be prudent to put this issue to bed, with a little transparency, instead of leaving it to a COLB, that many people believe is a fake?

I think Obama should prove all the conspirasists wrong, when they question his loyalty and his respect of the constitution, what does everybody else think.

does it really matter, or not?
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker- since the current US Constitution specifies NO certain person to do the certifying-- and since you won't accept the certification of the State Registrar, voters of the nation, electoral college, US Congress (100%), President of the Senate (V.P.), and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court- I think you should write up a Constitutional Admendment that says that all future Presidents need to have their birth certificate certified by a grey haired right wingnut Banker in Podunk Nebraska... :wink: :lol: :p

OY VEY :roll:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker- since the current US Constitution specifies NO certain person to do the certifying-- and since you won't accept the certification of the State Registrar, voters of the nation, electoral college, US Congress (100%), President of the Senate (V.P.), and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court- I think you should write up a Constitutional Admendment that says that all future Presidents need to have their birth certificate certified by a grey haired right wingnut Banker in Podunk Nebraska... :wink: :lol: :p

OY VEY :roll:

If the current constitution specifies nobody to prove eligiblity then what gave the Senate the right to demand McCain prove he was eligilbe to run. Or did you forget that one of the US candidates for President did have to prove he was a citizen? Why did McCain have to prove his Natural Born right but nobody made Obama? Could it be because there are two sets of rules one for McCain and the Republicans and one for Obama and the Democrats? :?
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker- since the current US Constitution specifies NO certain person to do the certifying-- and since you won't accept the certification of the State Registrar, voters of the nation, electoral college, US Congress (100%), President of the Senate (V.P.), and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court- I think you should write up a Constitutional Admendment that says that all future Presidents need to have their birth certificate certified by a grey haired right wingnut Banker in Podunk Nebraska... :wink: :lol: :p

OY VEY :roll:

If the current constitution specifies nobody to prove eligiblity then what gave the Senate the right to demand McCain prove he was eligilbe to run. Or did you forget that one of the US candidates for President did have to prove he was a citizen? Why did McCain have to prove his Natural Born right but nobody made Obama? Could it be because there are two sets of rules one for McCain and the Republicans and one for Obama and the Democrats? :?

The Senate never required McCain to prove anything...McCain thought/knew there could be a question brought up (as there was ) because of his being born in Panama so asked the Senate to clarify what they constitute as US soil....

You show me in the Constitution where it says WHO is to certify the qualifications of the President....The best I can find is it leaves that to the electoral college- and the President of the Senate (VP)--both of which certified Barack H. Obama as the President of the US and Joseph Biden as the Vice President....
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker- since the current US Constitution specifies NO certain person to do the certifying-- and since you won't accept the certification of the State Registrar, voters of the nation, electoral college, US Congress (100%), President of the Senate (V.P.), and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court- I think you should write up a Constitutional Admendment that says that all future Presidents need to have their birth certificate certified by a grey haired right wingnut Banker in Podunk Nebraska... :wink: :lol: :p

OY VEY :roll:

If the current constitution specifies nobody to prove eligiblity then what gave the Senate the right to demand McCain prove he was eligilbe to run. Or did you forget that one of the US candidates for President did have to prove he was a citizen? Why did McCain have to prove his Natural Born right but nobody made Obama? Could it be because there are two sets of rules one for McCain and the Republicans and one for Obama and the Democrats? :?

The Senate never required McCain to prove anything...McCain thought/knew there could be a question brought up (as there was ) because of his being born in Panama so asked the Senate to clarify what they constitute as US soil....

Again, you are a liar. There was debate on the Senate floor about his citizenship, with court documents on his citizenship issue presented as evidence.

U.S. Senate ends McCain citizenship debate

By Michael Sewall

Published May 2, 2008

Any concern over whether Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was eligible to run for president was put to rest Wednesday in the U.S. Senate. The Senate unanimously passed a bipartisan resolution expressing the sense of the Senate that McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for the presidency, is eligible.In February, The New York Times called into question the legality of McCain’s presidential run, based on whether he is a “natural born citizen” as required by the U.S. Constitution. McCain was born on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 to American citizens. “McCain’s situation is different from those of the current governors of California and Michigan, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jennifer Granholm, who were born in other countries and were first citizens of those nations, rendering them naturalized Americans ineligible under current interpretations,” the Feb. 28 New York Times article stated. “The conflict that could conceivably ensnare Mr. McCain goes more to the interpretation of ‘natural born’ when weighed against intent and decades of immigration law.” Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., introduced the resolution on April 10, along with Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and Tom Coburn, R-Okla. Both Democratic presidential candidates in the Senate, Sens. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y, also supported the resolution, which ran quickly through the Senate. McCaskill, an Obama supporter, said in a news release she had no doubt of McCain’s eligibility. “There’s no question in my mind that Sen. McCain is eligible to become president, and I’m proud that my colleagues in the Senate came together on this resolution to help quickly put this debate to rest,” McCaskill said in the release. McCaskill spokeswoman Maria Speiser said when this issue first arose, McCaskill’s first thought it was "silly." “Why would we question the eligibility of someone that has served their country?” Speiser said. “(McCaskill) just wanted to do what she could, as a senator, to lay this issue to rest.” Leahy also expressed the importance of ending debate on the issue. “This bipartisan resolution erases any doubt that Sen. McCain is eligible for president,” he said in the release. “The Senate was right to quickly pass this measure.” Coburn said McCain was born while his father was “fulfilling his patriotic duty to his country” and that he was happy to support the resolution. “Even though they were not standing on American soil, his father’s uniform still proudly displayed the flag of this nation,” Coburn said in the release. “John McCain and his family have a proven record of public service and sacrifice and I am proud to support this bipartisan resolution recognizing the fact that John McCain is a natural born citizen.”
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
If the current constitution specifies nobody to prove eligiblity then what gave the Senate the right to demand McCain prove he was eligilbe to run. Or did you forget that one of the US candidates for President did have to prove he was a citizen? Why did McCain have to prove his Natural Born right but nobody made Obama? Could it be because there are two sets of rules one for McCain and the Republicans and one for Obama and the Democrats? :?

The Senate never required McCain to prove anything...McCain thought/knew there could be a question brought up (as there was ) because of his being born in Panama so asked the Senate to clarify what they constitute as US soil....

Again, you are a liar. There was debate on the Senate floor about his citizenship, with court documents on his citizenship issue presented as evidence.

U.S. Senate ends McCain citizenship debate

By Michael Sewall

Published May 2, 2008

Any concern over whether Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was eligible to run for president was put to rest Wednesday in the U.S. Senate. The Senate unanimously passed a bipartisan resolution expressing the sense of the Senate that McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for the presidency, is eligible.In February, The New York Times called into question the legality of McCain’s presidential run, based on whether he is a “natural born citizen” as required by the U.S. Constitution. McCain was born on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 to American citizens. “McCain’s situation is different from those of the current governors of California and Michigan, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jennifer Granholm, who were born in other countries and were first citizens of those nations, rendering them naturalized Americans ineligible under current interpretations,” the Feb. 28 New York Times article stated. “The conflict that could conceivably ensnare Mr. McCain goes more to the interpretation of ‘natural born’ when weighed against intent and decades of immigration law.” Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., introduced the resolution on April 10, along with Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and Tom Coburn, R-Okla. Both Democratic presidential candidates in the Senate, Sens. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y, also supported the resolution, which ran quickly through the Senate. McCaskill, an Obama supporter, said in a news release she had no doubt of McCain’s eligibility. “There’s no question in my mind that Sen. McCain is eligible to become president, and I’m proud that my colleagues in the Senate came together on this resolution to help quickly put this debate to rest,” McCaskill said in the release. McCaskill spokeswoman Maria Speiser said when this issue first arose, McCaskill’s first thought it was "silly." “Why would we question the eligibility of someone that has served their country?” Speiser said. “(McCaskill) just wanted to do what she could, as a senator, to lay this issue to rest.” Leahy also expressed the importance of ending debate on the issue. “This bipartisan resolution erases any doubt that Sen. McCain is eligible for president,” he said in the release. “The Senate was right to quickly pass this measure.” Coburn said McCain was born while his father was “fulfilling his patriotic duty to his country” and that he was happy to support the resolution. “Even though they were not standing on American soil, his father’s uniform still proudly displayed the flag of this nation,” Coburn said in the release. “John McCain and his family have a proven record of public service and sacrifice and I am proud to support this bipartisan resolution recognizing the fact that John McCain is a natural born citizen.”

You sure like that word... :roll: You'd never last long up here in Gods country :wink:
Who asked the Senators to bring it up :???:
The bill/resolution was not to question his birth-- but to clarify that his being born to military personnel in a foreign country constitutes native born....And it was bipartisan.....

And if their was a problem with Obamas birth--why didn't McCain bring it up :???:
 

Tam

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Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
If the current constitution specifies nobody to prove eligiblity then what gave the Senate the right to demand McCain prove he was eligilbe to run. Or did you forget that one of the US candidates for President did have to prove he was a citizen? Why did McCain have to prove his Natural Born right but nobody made Obama? Could it be because there are two sets of rules one for McCain and the Republicans and one for Obama and the Democrats? :?

The Senate never required McCain to prove anything...McCain thought/knew there could be a question brought up (as there was ) because of his being born in Panama so asked the Senate to clarify what they constitute as US soil....

Again, you are a liar. There was debate on the Senate floor about his citizenship, with court documents on his citizenship issue presented as evidence.

U.S. Senate ends McCain citizenship debate

By Michael Sewall

Published May 2, 2008

Any concern over whether Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was eligible to run for president was put to rest Wednesday in the U.S. Senate. The Senate unanimously passed a bipartisan resolution expressing the sense of the Senate that McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for the presidency, is eligible.In February, The New York Times called into question the legality of McCain’s presidential run, based on whether he is a “natural born citizen” as required by the U.S. Constitution. McCain was born on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 to American citizens. “McCain’s situation is different from those of the current governors of California and Michigan, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jennifer Granholm, who were born in other countries and were first citizens of those nations, rendering them naturalized Americans ineligible under current interpretations,” the Feb. 28 New York Times article stated. “The conflict that could conceivably ensnare Mr. McCain goes more to the interpretation of ‘natural born’ when weighed against intent and decades of immigration law.” Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., introduced the resolution on April 10, along with Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and Tom Coburn, R-Okla. Both Democratic presidential candidates in the Senate, Sens. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y, also supported the resolution, which ran quickly through the Senate. McCaskill, an Obama supporter, said in a news release she had no doubt of McCain’s eligibility. “There’s no question in my mind that Sen. McCain is eligible to become president, and I’m proud that my colleagues in the Senate came together on this resolution to help quickly put this debate to rest,” McCaskill said in the release. McCaskill spokeswoman Maria Speiser said when this issue first arose, McCaskill’s first thought it was "silly." “Why would we question the eligibility of someone that has served their country?” Speiser said. “(McCaskill) just wanted to do what she could, as a senator, to lay this issue to rest.” Leahy also expressed the importance of ending debate on the issue. “This bipartisan resolution erases any doubt that Sen. McCain is eligible for president,” he said in the release. “The Senate was right to quickly pass this measure.” Coburn said McCain was born while his father was “fulfilling his patriotic duty to his country” and that he was happy to support the resolution. “Even though they were not standing on American soil, his father’s uniform still proudly displayed the flag of this nation,” Coburn said in the release. “John McCain and his family have a proven record of public service and sacrifice and I am proud to support this bipartisan resolution recognizing the fact that John McCain is a natural born citizen.”

The New York Times has the power to call into questions somebody's qualifications but 20 to 30 legally filed lawsuits DON'T? :shock: I guess Berg should have gone to the Democrat Bias rag and got them to question Obama's qualifications Then maybe the Senate would have looked at his Birth Certificate TOO. :x
 

Mike

Well-known member
Who asked the Senators to bring it up

The NEW YORK TIMES.
The bill/resolution was not to question his birth

It was concerning his BIRTH place! So it certainly was concerning his birth.

And if their was a problem with Obamas birth--why didn't McCain bring it up

That would have been tatamount to his electability death. With the media fawning and slobbering all over BHO, McCain would have been vilified.
 
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Anonymous

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Mike- Sandhusker-- have either of you questioned your Senators or Representatives yet on why NONE of them challenged Obama's qualifications when it was in the Joint Session Congress... :???: And he was then certified by the President of the Senate (Vice President Cheney) as the qualified-duly elected President of the US.... :???:

Didn't these folks take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the US :???:
 

Mike

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Cheney only certified the votes for BHO.

NOT his Constitutional qualifications. Are you really that dumb? :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Mike the laser copy you posted in another thread is stamped with the date of Jul06, 20007, on the back of the document,

Obama didn't have a copy of this until 2007?
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker- since the current US Constitution specifies NO certain person to do the certifying-- and since you won't accept the certification of the State Registrar, voters of the nation, electoral college, US Congress (100%), President of the Senate (V.P.), and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court- I think you should write up a Constitutional Admendment that says that all future Presidents need to have their birth certificate certified by a grey haired right wingnut Banker in Podunk Nebraska... :wink: :lol: :p

OY VEY :roll:

If the current constitution specifies nobody to prove eligiblity then what gave the Senate the right to demand McCain prove he was eligilbe to run. Or did you forget that one of the US candidates for President did have to prove he was a citizen? Why did McCain have to prove his Natural Born right but nobody made Obama? Could it be because there are two sets of rules one for McCain and the Republicans and one for Obama and the Democrats? :?

If the Constitution specifies citizenship as a requirement, and Obama has sworn to uphold the Constitution, but yet he refuses to prove his citizenship, he's breaking his oath.

Unless there is something to hide, why would somebody spend thousands to keep the cert hidden instead of the pennies to bring it?

Why is his refusal to comply anybody else's fault besides his own?
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Mike said:
Cheney only certified the votes for BHO.

NOT his Constitutional qualifications. Are you really that dumb? :roll:

So he would certify someone not Constitutionally qualified :???:

The same as you think the voters of the nation would elect someone not constitutionally qualified, the electoral college would back up that election , no one in the US Congress, nor his Republican opposition, nor the very conservative Chief Justice of the Supreme Court would even question it- but you- Mike in Alabama and all the other KKK right wingnuts know better :???: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :p
 
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