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Obama says, "Drill, baby, Drill"

Faster horses

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Well, he didn't quit say "drill, baby, drill" but he did reverse a ban on oil drilling of most US shores. :shock:

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer – 13 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Reversing a ban on oil drilling off most U.S. shores, President Barack Obama on Wednesday announced an expansive new policy that could put new oil and natural gas platforms in waters along the southern Atlantic coastline, the eastern Gulf of Mexico and part of Alaska.

Speaking at Andrews air base outside Washington, Obama said, "This is not a decision that I've made lightly." He addressed the expected outcry from disappointed environmentalists by saying he had studied the issue for more than a year and concluded it was the right call given the nation's voracious thirst for energy and the need to produce jobs and keep American businesses competitive.

"We're announcing the expansion of offshore oil and gas exploration but in ways that balance the need to harness domestic energy resources and the need to protect America's natural resources," Obama said, standing in front of a Navy F-18 fighter scheduled to fly on Earth Day with a half-biomass fuel mix.

The president said his decision is part of a broader strategy that also includes expanding the production of nuclear power and clean energy sources, to "move us from an economy that runs on fossil fuels and foreign oil to one that relies more on homegrown fuels and clean energy."

"The only way this transition will succeed is if it strengthens our economy in the short term and the long run," the president said. "To fail to recognize this reality would be a mistake."

Obama made no secret of the fact that one factor in his decision was attracting Republican support for a sweeping climate change bill that has languished in Congress. "Drill, baby, drill" was a mantra of the GOP during the 2008 presidential campaign.

"While our politics has remained entrenched along worn divides, the ground has shifted beneath our feet," the president said. "Around the world, countries are seeking an edge in the global marketplace by investing in new ways of producing and saving energy."

But Obama also has long been up front about his support for expanding offshore drilling — as well as other energy sources less popular with die-hard environmentalists. In his State of the Union speech, he said he wanted the United States to build a new generation of nuclear power plans, invest in new coal technologies and make "tough decisions about opening new offshore areas for oil and gas development."

The plan modifies a ban that for more than 20 years has limited drilling along coastal areas other than the Gulf of Mexico. It allows new oil drilling off Virginia's shoreline and considers it for a large chunk of the Atlantic seaboard.

Obama's blueprint would allow Interior to go ahead with oil and gas leases on tracts 50 miles off the coast of Virginia. Those leases had been approved for development but were held up by a court challenge and a departmental review.

In addition, the Interior Department has prepared a plan to add drilling platforms in the eastern Gulf of Mexico if Congress allows that moratorium to expire. Lawmakers in 2008 allowed a similar moratorium to expire; at the time President George W. Bush lifted the ban, which opened the door to Obama's change in policy.

It would allow exploration along the south Atlantic and mid Atlantic Outer Continental Shelf "to support energy planning" — a step toward potential leasing.

At the same time, the president also announced that proposed leases in Alaska's Bristol Bay would be canceled. And the Interior Department is reversing last year's decision to open up parts of the Chukchi and Beaufort seas. Instead, scientists would study the sites to see if they're suitable to future leases.

Obama is allowing an expansion in Alaska's Cook Inlet to go forward. The plan also would leave in place the moratorium on drilling off the West Coast.

Under Obama's plan, drilling could take place 125 miles from Florida's Gulf coastline if lawmakers allow the moratorium to expire. Drilling already takes place in western and central areas in the Gulf of Mexico.

The climate change bill has remained elusive.

The president met with lawmakers earlier this month at the White House about a bill cutting emissions of pollution-causing greenhouse gases by 17 percent by 2020. The legislation would also expand domestic oil and gas drilling offshore and provide federal assistance for constructing nuclear power plants and carbon sequestration and storage projects at coal-fired utilities.

The president's Wednesday remarks were paired with other energy proposals that were more likely to find praise from environmental groups. Some 5,000 hybrid vehicles have been ordered for the government fleet. And on Thursday, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Transportation Department are to sign a final rule that requires increased fuel efficiency standards for new cars.
 

101

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Watch out!!! In a day or two he will drop another bomb on us now that he has got us looking the other way go figure ?????? Like we can do anything to stop this guy now !! 101
 
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The president met with lawmakers earlier this month at the White House about a bill cutting emissions of pollution-causing greenhouse gases by 17 percent by 2020. The legislation would also expand domestic oil and gas drilling offshore and provide federal assistance for constructing nuclear power plants and carbon sequestration and storage projects at coal-fired utilities.

This could mean $Zillions of dollars for Montana...Montana, WY, and the Dakotas sit on enough coal to provide energy to the country for an estimated 600-1000 years...
Many industry folks have said that they don't care so much what the rules are concerning use of coal-BUT they want a set of long term rules so they know that after they put forth the investment the rules won't change midstream....That has been the biggest holdup in coal development...
 

Mike

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Looks like Buckwheat took some advice from McCain, during the campaign, and caved to his initial stand.

Must be some money for him or his friends in it somewhere.

Maybe all the jobs have to be Union Workers?
 
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Mike said:
Looks like Buckwheat took some advice from McCain, during the campaign, and caved to his initial stand.

Must be some money for him or his friends in it somewhere.

Maybe all the jobs have to be Union Workers?

I don't think some weren't listening to his initial stand.... :roll:

But Obama also has long been up front about his support for expanding offshore drilling — as well as other energy sources less popular with die-hard environmentalists. In his State of the Union speech, he said he wanted the United States to build a new generation of nuclear power plans, invest in new coal technologies and make "tough decisions about opening new offshore areas for oil and gas development."
 

Tam

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Does anyone really believe Obama anymore. :shock: :roll: Exploration means enviromental studies being done and just how long do you think they are going to take? :? He announces his exploration plans now to get support for Cap and Trade and for the Dems in the Nov.. The rest of the story is there will be no off shore drilling leases sold until at least 2012, No leases no drilling. Gee :? what happens in 2012 that he would want a bump in his polls? Oh yea he is up for election again!!!!!! :wink:

This is just like Health care and the bad of that Bill doesn't hit until AFTER 2012. Why? Because Obama wants to get re-elected. :wink: :roll:
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Looks like Buckwheat took some advice from McCain, during the campaign, and caved to his initial stand.

Must be some money for him or his friends in it somewhere.

Maybe all the jobs have to be Union Workers?

I don't think some weren't listening to his initial stand.... :roll:

But Obama also has long been up front about his support for expanding offshore drilling — as well as other energy sources less popular with die-hard environmentalists. In his State of the Union speech, he said he wanted the United States to build a new generation of nuclear power plans, invest in new coal technologies and make "tough decisions about opening new offshore areas for oil and gas development."

You just got caught lying again...................... :roll:

Barack Obama took the Republican slogan "drill, baby, drill" as his own today, opening up over 500,000 square miles of US coastal waters to oil and gas exploitation for the first time in over 20 years.

The move, a reversal of Obama's early campaign promise to retain a ban on offshore exploration, appeared aimed at winning support from Republicans in Congress for new laws to tackle global warming. Sarah Palin's "Drill, baby, drill" slogan was a prominent battle cry in the 2008 elections.
The areas opened up are off the Atlantic coast, the northern coast of Alaska and in the eastern Gulf of Mexico. However, in a concession to his environmentalist base, Obama did retain protection for Alaska's Bristol Bay, the single largest source of seafood in America and home to endangered species of whale. The Pacific Coast from Mexico to Canada is also off-limits.

Obama said the decision to allow oil rigs off the Atlantic coast was a painful one, but that it would help reduce US dependence on imported oil.

"This is not a decision that I've made lightly," the president said. "But the bottom line is this: given our energy needs, in order to sustain economic growth, produce jobs, and keep our businesses competitive, we're going to need to harness traditional sources of fuel even as we ramp up production of new sources of renewable, homegrown energy."

He said the administration would take steps to protect the environment and areas important to tourism off the Atlantic, as well as sensitive areas in the Arctic, and added: "Drilling alone cannot come close to meeting our long-term energy needs, and for the sake of the planet and our energy independence, we need to begin the transition to cleaner fuels now."

Interior department officials said the areas opened up today are thought to contain the equivalent of three years' annual US useage of recoverable oil and two years' worth of natural gas.

Under the proposals, a vast swath of Atlantic coast from northern Delaware to central Florida, including about 167m acres of ocean, would be open to drilling. An additional 130m acres of ocean in the Chukchi and Beaufort seas north of Alaska could also open up for drilling following environmental assessment studies. About two-thirds of the eastern Gulf of Mexico would be open for exploration though the plan would bar rigs within 125 miles of the Florida coast.


The state of Virginia could see drilling within 50 miles of the coast, and could issue its first licences as early as next year. However, actual drilling would probably not get underway for years. Drilling would be off-limits throughout the US Pacific coast. Bristol Bay in south-western Alaska would also be off the table until 2017.

Today's speech was widely seen as an attempt by Obama to use last week's epic victory on health reform as a springboard for other items on his agenda. He combined the announcement with a renewed appeal to Democrats and Republicans in Congress to pass climate change legislation. The laws would be a huge step forward towards a global deal but has encountered fierce domestic opposition.

A small group of Democrats and Republicans are expected to produce proposals to cut the US's mammoth greenhouse gas emissions, in the coming weeks. But the proposals are unlikely to go as far as environmentalists would like.

The interior secretary, Ken Salazar, made a significant declaration today, saying the administration had renounced the concept of carbon cap and trade. This system, seen by many as efficient and effective, sets a gradually reducing limit to emissions and then allows polluters to buy and sell permits to emit greenhouse gases, but opponents argue it would damage the economy. "The term cap and trade is not in the lexicon anymore," Salazar told CNBC television.

The go-ahead for drilling is also a bitter disappointment for environmentalists and Democrats. That could make it even more difficult to stitch together a compromise proposal on climate change in the Senate. Last week, 10 Senators from coastal states, including those now opened up for drilling, issued a letter expressing concern that offshore exploration would hurt fishing and tourism industries.

Maryland's Democratic Senator Ben Cardin, a supporter of Obama's climate agenda, said: "We know spills happen with offshore drilling. It happens even with the most responsible drilling." Greenpeace saw the announcement as a betrayal of Obama's campaign promise, with director Phil Radford saying: "This act furthers America's addiction to oil." Oceana called it a "wholesale assault" on the seas.

Brendan Cummings, senior counsel at the Centre for Biological Diversity, said: "Today's announcement is unfortunately all too typical of what we have seen so far from President Obama – promises of change, a year of 'deliberation,' and ultimately, adoption of flawed and outdated Bush policies as his own."

The disappointment could lift on Thursday, as Obama said his administration would then finalise more rigorous fuel economy standards for cars and trucks. The White House will also buy 5,000 new hybrid vehicles for the federal fleet.

Today's drilling decision further consolidates Obama's position in the middle ground between industry and environmentalists. Environmentalists have been disappointed with the president's decisions to restrict – but not ban outright – the highly destructive practice of blowing up mountaintops to mine thin seams of coal.


Obama indicated in his state of the union address that he was ready to offer two key concessions to Republicans – lifting the ban on offshore drilling and supporting new nuclear power plants – to try to gain support for climate change and energy legislation in Congress.


He took the first step last month, spurring the first construction of new nuclear plants since the Three Mile Island leak 30 years ago, by announcing $18bn in loan guarantees for two new nuclear reactors.


As a presidential candidate, Obama had repeatedly attacked his opponent, John McCain, for suggesting drilling would lower gas prices, arguing that it would take several years and billions in investment before those areas became productive. But as the summer of 2008 wore on with prices spiking at the pump, Obama along with other Democrats began moderating their opposition to offshore drilling.

Democrats in Congress did not renew an annual ban on offshore drilling, and Obama began reversing his opposition.
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Mike

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Besides, does anyone else remember Buckwheat saying that inflating your tires is better than drilling for oil??

OT, you are loathsome...................................
 

Bullhauler

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Mike said:
Besides, does anyone else remember Buckwheat saying that inflating your tires is better than drilling for oil??

OT, you are loathsome...................................

No what is really loathsome is a "cattleman" defending selling a butcher cow before the withdrawal time has elapsed. That is what is truly "loathsome".
 

Mike

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Bullhauler said:
Mike said:
Besides, does anyone else remember Buckwheat saying that inflating your tires is better than drilling for oil??

OT, you are loathsome...................................

No what is really loathsome is a "cattleman" defending selling a butcher cow before the withdrawal time has elapsed. That is what is truly "loathsome".

I have sold a many a cull dairy cow at the auction barn. But it just so happens I had them write on the ticket about the few who'd had anti-biotics.

Most of them went for nurse cows. The others hung around the buyers place until the withdrawal times were met, as far as I know.

It was either that, or chance it that the milk would be mistakenly put in the milk tank and maybe lose a couple of thousand gallons.

Now if a greedy azz cull cow buyer slipped her in at the killing plant, it was not my fault.
 

Larrry

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Notice how ole Bullhauler changed the subject when he couldn't defend the liberal lies.



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Steve

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politics to follow....
industry officials pointed out that Mr. Obama's plan didn't definitively promise new areas for drilling, but did place some areas off limits for seven years

They say the area being discussed for new drilling is far smaller than what was proposed in the final days of President George W. Bush's administration and then rolled back in the first weeks of Mr. Obama's term..

Mr. Obama specifically canceled four lease sales in the Chukchi and Beaufort seas, scheduled to occur before 2012, and said there would be no lease sales in Alaska's Bristol Bay through 2017. He also said the Pacific Coast, northern Atlantic and most of Florida would remain off limits.

On Wednesday, Mr. Obama said he would consider adding shallow areas off the Atlantic seaboard from Delaware to mid-Florida as well as certain deepwater areas in the eastern Gulf of Mexico to coming federal lease sales. The final decision governing which areas would be offered for lease to oil companies will be included in the 2012-2017 lease plan, which is still being developed. Congressional action is required to open the eastern Gulf of Mexico due to a 2006 law putting the area off limits.

so like any promise from Obama look at what he did, and what he promised to do... He did ban more areas... and he promised to open up a few areas he had closed when he first came in office...

so right now the result is less areas open for drilling today then yesterday...

and if Obama follows through on a promise (which I doubt he will do based on his past broken promises, , Obama will still only open a far smaller area then he closed on his first week in office..
 
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Steve said:
politics to follow....
industry officials pointed out that Mr. Obama's plan didn't definitively promise new areas for drilling, but did place some areas off limits for seven years

They say the area being discussed for new drilling is far smaller than what was proposed in the final days of President George W. Bush's administration and then rolled back in the first weeks of Mr. Obama's term..

Mr. Obama specifically canceled four lease sales in the Chukchi and Beaufort seas, scheduled to occur before 2012, and said there would be no lease sales in Alaska's Bristol Bay through 2017. He also said the Pacific Coast, northern Atlantic and most of Florida would remain off limits.

On Wednesday, Mr. Obama said he would consider adding shallow areas off the Atlantic seaboard from Delaware to mid-Florida as well as certain deepwater areas in the eastern Gulf of Mexico to coming federal lease sales. The final decision governing which areas would be offered for lease to oil companies will be included in the 2012-2017 lease plan, which is still being developed. Congressional action is required to open the eastern Gulf of Mexico due to a 2006 law putting the area off limits.

so like any promise from Obama look at what he did, and what he promised to do... He did ban more areas... and he promised to open up a few areas he had closed when he first came in office...

so right now the result is less areas open for drilling today then yesterday...

and if Obama follows through on a promise (which I doubt he will do based on his past broken promises, , Obama will still only open a far smaller area then he closed on his first week in office..

So Steve- who banned all these leases with a moratorium in the first place? A moratorium that was kept in place for over 8 years.. Was the moratorium originally put on for no good reason? ....Or do you think each area needs to be studied by where the individual conditions- and the science of the industry sits today?
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
politics to follow....
industry officials pointed out that Mr. Obama's plan didn't definitively promise new areas for drilling, but did place some areas off limits for seven years

They say the area being discussed for new drilling is far smaller than what was proposed in the final days of President George W. Bush's administration and then rolled back in the first weeks of Mr. Obama's term..

Mr. Obama specifically canceled four lease sales in the Chukchi and Beaufort seas, scheduled to occur before 2012, and said there would be no lease sales in Alaska's Bristol Bay through 2017. He also said the Pacific Coast, northern Atlantic and most of Florida would remain off limits.

On Wednesday, Mr. Obama said he would consider adding shallow areas off the Atlantic seaboard from Delaware to mid-Florida as well as certain deepwater areas in the eastern Gulf of Mexico to coming federal lease sales. The final decision governing which areas would be offered for lease to oil companies will be included in the 2012-2017 lease plan, which is still being developed. Congressional action is required to open the eastern Gulf of Mexico due to a 2006 law putting the area off limits.

so like any promise from Obama look at what he did, and what he promised to do... He did ban more areas... and he promised to open up a few areas he had closed when he first came in office...

so right now the result is less areas open for drilling today then yesterday...

and if Obama follows through on a promise (which I doubt he will do based on his past broken promises, , Obama will still only open a far smaller area then he closed on his first week in office..

So Steve- who banned all these leases with a moratorium in the first place? A moratorium that was kept in place for over 8 years.. Was the moratorium originally put on for no good reason? ....Or do you think each area needs to be studied by where the individual conditions- and the science of the industry sits today?

the moratoriums were mostly due to knee jerk reactions, political reasons and agenda. ... instead of actually correcting problems.. and basing the decision on science..

I don't have to be blind to who put in place the moratoriums or who tied up the land to know that the FED shouldn't be controlling the states resources..
 
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Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
politics to follow....


so like any promise from Obama look at what he did, and what he promised to do... He did ban more areas... and he promised to open up a few areas he had closed when he first came in office...

so right now the result is less areas open for drilling today then yesterday...

and if Obama follows through on a promise (which I doubt he will do based on his past broken promises, , Obama will still only open a far smaller area then he closed on his first week in office..

So Steve- who banned all these leases with a moratorium in the first place? A moratorium that was kept in place for over 8 years.. Was the moratorium originally put on for no good reason? ....Or do you think each area needs to be studied by where the individual conditions- and the science of the industry sits today?

the moratoriums were mostly due to knee jerk reactions, political reasons and agenda. ... instead of actually correcting problems.. and basing the decision on science..

I don't have to be blind to who put in place the moratoriums or who tied up the land to know that the FED shouldn't be controlling the states resources..

Yep-- you're right- it was George Herbert Walker Bush that put in the drilling moratorium-- but in several instances-if I remember right- west coast and Florida asked for the moratoriums.....

We need a LONG TERM (75 year) energy and energy infrastructure (especially electrical grid) plan so that the states and industry have some direction....(And like I said- it could be a gold mine to states like Montana- that have the resources-- coal, oil, wind, biomass, etc. etc., but that industry has been afraid to invest in because of the unknowns of not having a long term energy and climate change plan for the country- which they knew was/has to come about ....)

Incidentally today I just received my registered letters from Hunter Energy asking for verification of oil and gas rights ownership for my land they have leased that is coming up for release-and asking who was doing the lease negotiations now that it has been shown that it is in the Bakken Field :D :D :D
 

Faster horses

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Funny...Obama never said one word about drilling in Anwar...tonight
on Hannity, Hannity was doing a book signing in Utah and a Utah congressman made the statement that "there aren't any trees in Anwar for the tree huggers to hug".

So tell me again why we aren't drilling in
Anwar?

My dad was in Alaska for over 15 years, he was a Democrat and he
could not understand why we weren't utilizing that oil field. The natives
wonder that too. Dad said there is nothing but permafrost in that area...nothing else.
 
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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
So Steve- who banned all these leases with a moratorium in the first place? A moratorium that was kept in place for over 8 years.. Was the moratorium originally put on for no good reason? ....Or do you think each area needs to be studied by where the individual conditions- and the science of the industry sits today?

the moratoriums were mostly due to knee jerk reactions, political reasons and agenda. ... instead of actually correcting problems.. and basing the decision on science..

I don't have to be blind to who put in place the moratoriums or who tied up the land to know that the FED shouldn't be controlling the states resources..

Yep-- you're right- it was George Herbert Walker Bush that put in the drilling moratorium-- but in several instances-if I remember right- west coast and Florida asked for the moratoriums.....

We need a LONG TERM (75 year) energy and energy infrastructure (especially electrical grid) plan so that the states and industry have some direction....(And like I said- it could be a gold mine to states like Montana- that have the resources-- coal, oil, wind, biomass, etc. etc., but that industry has been afraid to invest in because of the unknowns of not having a long term energy and climate change plan for the country- which they knew was/has to come about ....)

Incidentally today I just received my registered letters from Hunter Energy asking for verification of oil and gas rights ownership for my land they have leased that is coming up for release-and asking who was doing the lease negotiations now that it has been shown that it is in the Bakken Field :D :D :D


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you can then brag day in and day out as you receive less of your income and the unwilling receive more and more than you do. Yea kids this would not be possible if I had not been a DOPE AND FELL FOR AND PLACED THE THE ROPE AROUND OUR NECKS.

One needs to look no further than Mandella and africa to see whats coming to your neighborhood mr rodgers. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Lets see if you sing there's a wonderful president in the 1/2 WHITEHOUSE? :wink: :wink: :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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OT, "We need a LONG TERM (75 year) energy and energy infrastructure ..."

Yes, we do. However, that will never happen with a left wing-nut like Obama in office. A long-term policy would require dealing with facts, and the lefties only run on emotion. The facts would show that we are an energy economy dependent on fossil fuels and that green energy sources are many years away technology-wise from doing much. An honest policy would prove that his cap and bankrupt tax is a half-wit disaster in the making.

Don't expect anything based on fact and common sense to ever come out of this administration. A tiger doesn't change it's stripes....
 

Steve

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, but that industry has been afraid to invest in because of the unknowns of not having a long term energy and climate change plan for the country- which they knew was/has to come about ....)

and every time the political wind changes so do the rules.. :mad:

so investment goes overseas...
 
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