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Obama Seeks Halt to Legal Proceedings at Guantanamo

hypocritexposer

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Obama must decide how and where to prosecute detainees such as Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. He must convince communities in the United States that terrorist suspects can be safely moved to military or civilian prisons in the continental United States, and press diplomatic negotiations to repatriate or resettle prisoners who can be released. And he must consider settling some small number of detainees in the United States to help persuade allies to take others.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/20/AR2009012004743.html?hpid=topnews
 

hypocritexposer

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The under-construction new Obama court would be “some sort of hybrid that involves military commissions that actually administers justice rather than just serve as kangaroo courts,” according to Laurence Tribe, a Harvard law professor and Obama legal advisor. In other words, it would include elements of the hated Guantanamo commissions.
 

kolanuraven

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Every president stops all actions of the former president until further review. It's Standard Operating Procedure.

It happend when Bush took over from Clinton....and before that....


This is not news.
 

Mike

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kolanuraven said:
Every president stops all actions of the former president until further review. It's Standard Operating Procedure.

It happend when Bush took over from Clinton....and before that....


This is not news.
But Clinton didn't leave Bush any "Terrorists" to deal with.

He didn't have the balls to actually do anything about the ones who desecrated our sovereign soil except maybe to bomb an aspirin factory. :roll:
 
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Anonymous

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kolanuraven said:
Every president stops all actions of the former president until further review. It's Standard Operating Procedure.

It happend when Bush took over from Clinton....and before that....


This is not news.

Kola---The right wingnuts been bitchin about no change-- now he starts taking actions so he can make change- and thery're bitchin... :roll:
Kind of reminds me of spoiled little kids- nothing will make them happy.... :wink:

Many things the USDA has done in the last few years and months- definitely need change.....
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
kolanuraven said:
Every president stops all actions of the former president until further review. It's Standard Operating Procedure.

It happend when Bush took over from Clinton....and before that....


This is not news.

Kola---The right wingnuts been bitchin about no change-- now he starts taking actions so he can make change- and thery're bitchin... :roll:
Kind of reminds me of spoiled little kids- nothing will make them happy.... :wink:

Many things the USDA has done in the last few years and months- definitely need change.....

Yea buddy. Real "CHANGE" here. :roll:

Right out of the box he starts defending a bunch of terrorists who want to put burkhas on your grandaughters........... :roll:

Even his pick for Attorney General said that the terrorists at Gitmo didn't fall under the Geneva Convention.

Nothing but fluff to show the idiots that voted for him that he would keep at least ONE campaign promise....................... :lol:
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
kolanuraven said:
Every president stops all actions of the former president until further review. It's Standard Operating Procedure.

It happend when Bush took over from Clinton....and before that....


This is not news.

Kola---The right wingnuts been bitchin about no change-- now he starts taking actions so he can make change- and thery're bitchin... :roll:
Kind of reminds me of spoiled little kids- nothing will make them happy.... :wink:

Many things the USDA has done in the last few years and months- definitely need change.....

Yea buddy. Real "CHANGE" here. :roll:

Right out of the box he starts defending a bunch of terrorists who want to put burkhas on your grandaughters........... :roll:

Even his pick for Attorney General said that the terrorists at Gitmo didn't fall under the Geneva Convention.

Nothing but fluff to show the idiots that voted for him that he would keep at least ONE campaign promise....................... :lol:

Except for a few handpicked Bush attorneys he got to right him an opinion saying he could do it-- the legal scholars of the military, country, and the world says that what Bush has done is illegal.....
This is just righting a wrong...
 

Mike

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This is just righting a wrong...

Righting a wrong against whom?

The same terrorists that want to cut your head off and play the video to show to the world?

My God man, what can you be thinking???? :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
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Anonymous

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As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our founding fathers ... our found fathers, faced with perils we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. And so to all the other peoples and governments who are watching today, from the grandest capitals to the small village where my father was born: know that America is a friend of each nation and every man, woman, and child who seeks a future of peace and dignity, and that we are ready to lead once more.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

We are the keepers of this legacy. Guided by these principles once more, we can meet those new threats that demand even greater effort — even greater cooperation and understanding between nations. We will begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people, and forge a hard-earned peace in Afghanistan. With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you.
 

TexasBred

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Oldtimer said:
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our founding fathers ... our found fathers, faced with perils we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. And so to all the other peoples and governments who are watching today, from the grandest capitals to the small village where my father was born: know that America is a friend of each nation and every man, woman, and child who seeks a future of peace and dignity, and that we are ready to lead once more.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

We are the keepers of this legacy. Guided by these principles once more, we can meet those new threats that demand even greater effort — even greater cooperation and understanding between nations. We will begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people, and forge a hard-earned peace in Afghanistan. With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you.

OT....a shame you didn't highlight the part of this speech I underlined... But apparently it was all hype and meant nothing to the speaker either.
 
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Anonymous

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TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our founding fathers ... our found fathers, faced with perils we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. And so to all the other peoples and governments who are watching today, from the grandest capitals to the small village where my father was born: know that America is a friend of each nation and every man, woman, and child who seeks a future of peace and dignity, and that we are ready to lead once more.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

We are the keepers of this legacy. Guided by these principles once more, we can meet those new threats that demand even greater effort — even greater cooperation and understanding between nations. We will begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people, and forge a hard-earned peace in Afghanistan. With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you.

OT....a shame you didn't highlight the part of this speech I underlined... But apparently it was all hype and meant nothing to the speaker either.

Texasbred-- I will agree with you...We should not apologize for what has been done- but should move forward- following the Law and the Constitution (altho I'm not sure Bush/Cheney/Yoo and some of the others won't be brought up under International charges, unless Obama does some wonders smoothing things out)....
Nor shall we live in fear- as some of the fearmongers perpetuate-- which I became so involved with this week- and which my wife so well explained to the younger folks that work with her...

And I laugh because if we worried daily about heads being cut off like the rightwingers (the jigs, Mike, Sandhusker, etal) continually bring up- they have won the war- and you only have to look south of the Rio that is finding headless police and administration, almost in a civil war- and that GW has failed to address- or close our borders to the foreign invaders as the Constitution requires- in exchange for cheap maids and pool boys for his elite buddies-- along with cheap products which include cattle and beef- which every cattle producer should be in an uproar about... :roll: :(

I'm just glad to see so far we are returning to a land where the Law- and Constitution of the US mean something.. :)

Our government... teaches the whole people by its example. If the government becomes the lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.
~ Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis

The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding.
Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis


Experience teaches us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent.
~ Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis
 
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