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Obama State Dept. set to cede oil-rich AL. islands to Russia

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Did you hear the reason Oldtimer fears NEWS? it's stems from all the bad memories of being swatted with the newspaper for making a mess on the floor. :wink:
 
Its comical- but a sign of followers of both political cults... One of their membership makes a totally erroneous and false commentary like FH did- and then when their errors are pointed out- the rest of the cult swarm back with shotgun shoot from the hip attacks against the messenger or anyone/anything else they can to try and change the subject....

Thats the reason I asked if FH was so vocal when Bush 1 and Secretary Baker and the Congress 20+ years ago sat all this into motion with their actions :???:

But too often the cultist followers don't want to learn the truth- it would give them too many boogeymen to look for..... :wink: :lol:
 
Oldtimer said:
Its comical- but a sign of followers of both political cults... One of their membership makes a totally erroneous and false commentary like FH did- and then when their errors are pointed out- the rest of the cult swarm back with shotgun shoot from the hip attacks against the messenger or anyone/anything else they can to try and change the subject....

Thats the reason I asked if FH was so vocal when Bush 1 and Secretary Baker and the Congress 20+ years ago sat all this into motion with their actions :???:

But too often the cultist followers don't want to learn the truth- it would give them too many boogeymen to look for..... :wink: :lol:

What is comical is you thinking you can claim anyone is a cultist follower when you Oldtimer buy into every lie your hero Obama has read from his teleprompter. The man can not tell the truth to save his life and you can't call him on his lies to save your credibility. CULTIST :roll: Crawl back under your front porch and have Jingy come lick your wounds. :roll:
 
Its comical- but a sign of followersof the obama political cults... One of their membership makes a totally erroneous and false commentary like obama did- and then when their errors are pointed out- the rest of the cult, mainly ot swarm back with shotgun shoot from the hip attacks against the messenger or anyone/anything else they can to try and change the subject.... good try at trying to change the subject of obamas failures ot, now back under the porch.
 
Someone's reading comprehension isn't too good. My original post
was not from an email and it was not something I made up.
It came from the Washington Times. I'll post the link AGAIN
since obviously it was missed.

Read more at: http://times247.com/articles/obama-must-stop-alaskan-islands-giveaway

You're welcome. :)
 
Faster horses said:
Someone's reading comprehension isn't too good. My original post
was not from an email and it was not something I made up.
It came from the Washington Times. I'll post the link AGAIN
since obviously it was missed.

Read more at: http://times247.com/articles/obama-must-stop-alaskan-islands-giveaway

You're welcome. :)

Sorry FH- but WRONG again-- its a reprint opinion piece from the Worldnetdaily which is about the most biased rightwingernut press media there is...They are even more rightwing than the John Bircher ( a communist behind every stone) folks...
But it doesn't matter where it came from- their presentation of the info is still 99% wrong on blaming this on Obama, the current Admistration or Congress...

And you still didn't answer the question- were you as vocal against Secretary of State Baker- or Bush 1 and his Congress- all of which originally approved and signed onto the agreement :???:

Did you also show as much hatred toward all the US Presidents since the Tsarist ages of Russia (early 1900's) that have never argued against Russia on their claim for sovereignty over the same areas :???:
 
Oldtimer said:
Faster horses said:
Someone's reading comprehension isn't too good. My original post
was not from an email and it was not something I made up.
It came from the Washington Times. I'll post the link AGAIN
since obviously it was missed.

Read more at: http://times247.com/articles/obama-must-stop-alaskan-islands-giveaway

You're welcome. :)

Sorry FH- but WRONG again-- its a reprint opinion piece from the Worldnetdaily which is about the most biased rightwingernut press media there is...They are even more rightwing than the John Bircher ( a communist behind every stone) folks...
But it doesn't matter where it came from- their presentation of the info is still 99% wrong on blaming this on Obama, the current Admistration or Congress...

And you still didn't answer the question- were you as vocal against Secretary of State Baker- or Bush 1 and his Congress- all of which originally approved and signed onto the agreement :???:

Did you also show as much hatred toward all the US Presidents since the Tsarist ages of Russia (early 1900's) that have never argued against Russia on their claim for sovereignty over the same areas :???:


OT, do you want to take a guess how many times you posted stories from WND, when Bush was President?

I can pull them up, if you'd like. :D
 
Henry Kissinger ordered the de facto giveaway of sovereignty over 8 American Alaskan islands to the Soviet Union, along with the 200-mile fishery conservation zones around them.
He made the order secretly upon his own declaration in January 1977 without consultation with Congress, the State of Alaska, or the American public in general.

He ordered that a maritime boundary for the fishery conservation zones (later to be applied to exclusive economic zones) between Alaska and Siberia would follow a line in the Bering Sea and Arctic Ocean which was described in the treaty by which the United States obtained part of modern-day Alaska from Russia in 1867. Kissinger's line ignored vast developments and additions to Alaska after 1867, including the American discovery and/or inclusion in the United States of Wrangell, Herald, Bennett, Henrietta, and Jeannette Islands in the Arctic Ocean in 1881. It placed these islands, plus Copper Island, Sea Lion Rock and Sea Otter Rock in the Bering Sea (which were ceded to the United States in the 1867 treaty), on the Soviet/Russian side of the maritime boundary. Thus effective sovereignty over them plus the tens of thousands of square miles of fishery/exclusive economic zones were surrendered.

Kissinger asked for nothing in return for the United States.

The diplomatic message traffic is presented below.

January 21, 1977: Kissinger instructed his Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Philip C. Habib to wire to the U. S. Embassy in Moscow the declaration that the United States, for maritime boundary purposes, would "respect the line set forth in the convention [treaty] signed at Washington March 30, 1867. The Government of the United States of course anticipates that the Government of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics will follow a similar practice...."

January 25, 1977: The U. S. Embassy reported back that "...Khabarov [of the Soviet Treaty and Legal Division] went over the note carefully and looked up Soviet text of the 1867 convention on [sic] maritime boundaries between Alaska and Siberia. But he did not offer substantive comment. He did ask, as a personal aside, whether it was not customary to negotiate or at least discuss such matters before giving notice about enforcement provisions. He added that he was not aware that the question had been discussed in connection with the bilateral fishing agreement signed in November."

February 24, 1977: The U. S. Embassy reported the position of the Soviet Government: "The Government of the USSR has taken into account the intention of the US side, in setting forth its fisheries jurisdiction, to respect the line established by the convention signed April [sic] 18(30), 1867 in Washington, D.C. The Government of the USSR in carrying out its measures ensuing from the decree of the presidium of the Supreme Soviet of December 10, 1976, Temporary Measures for the Protection of Living Resources and Regulation of Fisheries in Areas Adjacent to the USSR Coast, intends to adhere to the same line of the Convention of April 18, 1867, in the Arctic Ocean, Chukchi, and the Bering Seas."

This policy has continued without any change under Presidents Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, William Clinton, and George W. Bush. All negotiations have been conducted in strict secrecy without the knowledge and/or participation of Congress, the State of Alaska, and the American public. No known quid pro quo for the United States has been identified.
 
Kind hard to give away something that was not yours to start with. :roll:

The State Department with Secretary of State Henry Kissinger at the end of the Ford Administration unilaterally proposed to the Soviets in January 1977 a maritime boundary line. It was based on part of a line described in the 1867 treaty between the U.S. and Russia. [See 1867 Treaty.] The line starts midway between Attu Island and Copper Island in the Aleutian Island, proceeds northeast for about 950+ miles to a midpoint between Little Diomede Island and Big Diomede Island, and then turns due north into the Arctic Ocean.

The line places on the Russian side, 8 islands along with their 200-mile seabeds – that it seems, is what Alaska is having a fit about. Alaska says that this farce of a proposition, was not done by asking Alaska and it amounts to a giveaway of not only the Alaskan land territory, but also hundreds of thousands of square miles of seabeds to the Russians. There is no equal viability for the State of Alaska. These seabeds are rich in oil, gas, fisheries, and other resources worth billions of dollars. The oil and gas potential is measured in the billions of barrels. The fisheries are in the hundreds of millions of pounds per year, reflecting that Alaska is the number one fishing state in the USA…

The islands causing the turmoil are: Copper Island, Sea Lion Rock, Sea Otter Rock, Herald Island, Bennett, Jeannette, Henrietta Islands and Wrangell Island…

Say what you want but this situation did not even have to be ratified: actually to put it in a nutshell – nothing had to be done at all to have said proposition go in effect: "…pending the entry into force of that [Maritime Boundary treaty] Agreement, the two Governments agree to abide by the terms of that Agreement as of June 15, 1990." This is what Russia and America did and it extends to this day, 22 years later…

Oh yes – some of these islands have been administered by either the Soviet Union or Russia for well over one hundred years and it seems that America's Alaska so called claim to the islands islands have never been really been claimed by the US government in over 100 years if ever at all at any time. It also seems that unless the islands have floated around lately that they are located much closer to Russia than Alaska. It is just possible that Russia has the real claim on these islands and that is why no US administration has ever done anything about trying to change the situation because it would do no good. The 1867 treaty seems to be the core for the boundary line…

Okay enough history today…
 
Oldtimer said:
Faster horses said:
Someone's reading comprehension isn't too good. My original post
was not from an email and it was not something I made up.
It came from the Washington Times. I'll post the link AGAIN
since obviously it was missed.

Read more at: http://times247.com/articles/obama-must-stop-alaskan-islands-giveaway

You're welcome. :)

Sorry FH- but WRONG again-- its a reprint opinion piece from the Worldnetdaily which is about the most biased rightwingernut press media there is...They are even more rightwing than the John Bircher ( a communist behind every stone) folks...
But it doesn't matter where it came from- their presentation of the info is still 99% wrong on blaming this on Obama, the current Admistration or Congress...

And you still didn't answer the question- were you as vocal against Secretary of State Baker- or Bush 1 and his Congress- all of which originally approved and signed onto the agreement :???:

Did you also show as much hatred toward all the US Presidents since the Tsarist ages of Russia (early 1900's) that have never argued against Russia on their claim for sovereignty over the same areas :???:

Since you want to talk about people being vocal would you care to explain why you are so silent about the amount of money Obama has spent in the last three years when you have done nothing but b*tch about the money Bush spent in his eight years, Especially since Obama has spent more? WHY THE SILENCE OLDTIMER?
 
Oldtimer said:
Faster horses said:
Someone's reading comprehension isn't too good. My original post
was not from an email and it was not something I made up.
It came from the Washington Times. I'll post the link AGAIN
since obviously it was missed.

Read more at: http://times247.com/articles/obama-must-stop-alaskan-islands-giveaway

You're welcome. :)

Sorry FH- but WRONG again-- its a reprint opinion piece from the Worldnetdaily which is about the most biased rightwingernut press media there is...They are even more rightwing than the John Bircher ( a communist behind every stone) folks...
But it doesn't matter where it came from- their presentation of the info is still 99% wrong on blaming this on Obama, the current Admistration or Congress...

And you still didn't answer the question- were you as vocal against Secretary of State Baker- or Bush 1 and his Congress- all of which originally approved and signed onto the agreement :???:

Did you also show as much hatred toward all the US Presidents since the Tsarist ages of Russia (early 1900's) that have never argued against Russia on their claim for sovereignty over the same areas :???:

Where is she wrong oldtimer?????? Her link is obviously from the Tomes, reprint or not!!!
Where is your outrage at you b/f obama's give away of billions of dollars
and doing little to help the economy?
Government motors????
Solandro (SP)
1.5 mil supporting unions in Vietnam
13 mil to socialistic groups in Latin america
18 mil supporting abortion in Kenya

the list goes on and on an on oldtimer, any outrage from you,, You want answers from other posters how about offering up a few for us!
Proof of the harassment charges would be a start!
Proof of the other site that laughed at us would be another one!
That list goes on and on and on as well :cry:
Sad as you are I can only feel sorry for the people that surround you!
 
To answer your question, OT (in order to not be like you and ignore
what you are asked) I wasn't much into politics until 9-11. BUt
I always knew right from wrong anf this Prez is WRONG in so
many ways. Starting with the people he has run with in the past,
the people he has surrounded himself with as President,
to all the things he
has done circumventing Congress and his always siding with
ISLAM. Plus all the money he has given away to places like
Solyndra which your grandkids and mine, will pay for.
I coujld go on and on, but I think you get the drift. If you don't,
I suggest you read that lengthy, informative post that Tam made on this
thread. Concise, to the point and dead on.

I do try to listen to some liberal radio, but I can't stand it.
They are in their own little world. Or I guess the world they
see and defend is way different from the one I live in.


So now the next time you are asked a personal question, we'll
expect an answer.
 
Oldtimer used to post WND articles quite a bit, when Bush was President, and criticized Bush, but stopped in early 2009, when WND became "biased rightwingernut"


Read through these and notice the "conspiracy theories" that OT once believed (many he calls conspiracy theories now that obama is President)

and it is also fun to note that many of those things he was against, he is now for, or nop longer takes issue with. :lol: :lol:


Oldtimer said:
Sorry FH- but WRONG again-- its a reprint opinion piece from the Worldnetdaily which is about the most biased rightwingernut press media there is...They are even more rightwing than the John Bircher ( a communist behind every stone) folks...
But it doesn't matter where it came from- their presentation of the info is still 99% wrong on blaming this on Obama, the current Admistration or Congress...




THIS LAND WAS YOUR LAND
Developer seeks
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Looks to build 'Lost Liberty Hotel' at home of Supreme Court justice

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North American Union threat gets attention of congressmen

Resolution aimed at blocking merger, funding of 'NAFTA superhighways'



WorldNet Daily

October 1, 2006

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=147756#147756


Sunday, November 19, 2006
THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
'Bush doesn't think America should be an actual place'
Tancredo says president believes nation should be merely 'idea' without borders
Posted: November 19, 2006
4:19 p.m. Eastern

By Joe Kovacs
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo.

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=159664#159664


Analysts: Dollar collapse
would result in 'amero'
Think deep recession likely
regardless of Fed's actions

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Posted: December 13, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=167432#167432


True deficit:
$3.5 trillion
Analyst says coming Treasury report will document 'unsustainable' pace

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Posted: December 14, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=167436#167436


FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU
Baker accused of skirting
U.S. sanctions on Saddam
Businessman charges ex-secretary of state
used middleman to 'sell out' Israel for profit

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Posted: December 18, 2006
5:00 p.m. Eastern


By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=168719#168719


Is it really the difficulty of the job? or the cost? or apathy?
Or is it the outright selling out of our nations sovereignty for the benefit of the multinational corporate elite?

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How leaders are stealthily transforming USA into North American Union

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Posted: January 2, 2007
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© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=174941#174941


Sounds like GW needs to spend a few weeks working on the border and ducking a few bullets- then see what he would have done... Shootouts have been a part of the border history for years- just now they are much more frequent.....Another case of Bush cowing to the Mexican government....

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Republican revolt builds over border agents
House resolution calls for tossing Ramos, Compean convictions

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Posted: January 23, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=180335#180335


INVASION USA
Imprisoned agent's wife:
President is a hypocrite
Calls State of the Union speech 'total sellout of the United States of America to Mexico'
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Posted: January 24, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=180733#180733


Wrong law used to convict Border agents

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Posted: January 22, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53873

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=180839#180839


NUCLEAR WAR-FEAR
Top Iranian nuke scientist
'assassinated by Mossad'
U.S. intelligence company says Israel
making good on threat to stop bomb

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Posted: February 3, 2007
10:15 p.m. Eastern



© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=184772#184772


Yeah- They did a segment on O'reilly tonite and he's calling for a Federal Investigation of the prison and how they could allow a high risk inmate like this to be placed in the open general public of the prison...Even the risk mobsters get special housing units Rolling Eyes
They said that he still has not been allowed to see a doctor or get the X-Rays as a nurse advised- even tho its 2 days later.....

This whole thing stinks more every day-- from the BP, to Homeland Security, to the US Attorney who did nothing to the other 9 BP officers, to the Whitehouse....Stinks to high heaven....
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INVASION USA
Border Patrol supervisors implicated by agency memo
DHS document says none of 9 officers present officially reported incident

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Posted: February 6, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=185574#185574


INVASION USA
Officials urged to resign for lie about border agents
Congressman calls for ouster of DHS deputies after IG admits agency gave false information--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: February 7, 2007
3:55 p.m. Eastern



© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=185892#185892


Imprisoned border agent did report shooting
DHS memo shows Compean spoke to supervisor immediately after incident
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Posted: February 7, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=185894#185894



The funny thing about this is that the Repubs can't scream too loud-- because some of the folks that are leading the charge against this border coverup are conservatives and Republicans-- one even a fellow GW Texan-- Culberson and Tancredo etal...

Looks to me like old GW will do anything the Mexicans want as long as it doesn't shake up his plans to sell out the rest of our country and get his North American Union....

At least its still legal to shoot Muslim terrorists in Utah...The Utah Senate wants to give this out of town off duty cop a medal....One of the only good things GW and the 108th Congress did was authorize all off duty and retired Law Enforcement to pack heat anywhere and anytime--Paid off this time.....

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Mexico demanded U.S. prosecute sheriff, agents
Documents show role of consulate in cases of Gilmer Hernandez and Ramos-Compean

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Posted: February 13, 2007
6:28 p.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=188300#188300


BIOCHEM WAR-FEAR
China's toothpaste contaminant has long, deadly, grisly history
FDA warns Americans to avoid products containing poisonous antifreeze solvent

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Posted: June 6, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=213202#213202


Bill paves way for Canada's 'disappearance'
Critics say country moving toward 'deep integration' with U.S.

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Posted: June 23, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=216376#216376


Senate resurrects immigration bill
Plan opposed by most Americans wins crucial vote to move forward

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Posted: June 26, 2007
12:37 p.m. Eastern



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http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=217110#217110


Our Tax Dollars At Work

FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU
PA officials smuggled $52 million in U.S. aid
Top security strongmen pocketed money, invested in Dubai construction projects

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Posted: July 7, 2007
6:10 p.m. Eastern


By Aaron Klein
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=219491#219491


The saddest thing is that this is even a discussed subject....That there are that many people (60-70% depending on the poll) , both in and out of politics, that don't trust the Administration and our Government enough to believe them anymore....

Quote:
"Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive!" Sir Walter Scott


Quote:
"Credibility is like virginity. Once you lose it, you can never get it back."


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Posted: July 29, 2007
5:00 p.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=223781#223781


Looks like a few Congressmen are concerned about GW's behind the back slight of hand on the North American Union issue too....

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Congress tells Bush: Back off SPP agenda
Lawmakers' letter warns 'stealth' effort to 'harmonize' could undermine security
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Posted: August 17, 2007
5:00 p.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=228081#228081


This is a 2006 article--Rogers later reported on his blog and radio site that the Senator he was talking about was Craig-- but that he had not gotten the evidence he needed to confront him earlier....

This shows the dangers and how vulnerable these "closeted" politicians can be-- when someone can openly threaten to blackmail them on how to vote on issues... Scarey....

full 2006, WorldNet story:

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52295

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=230100#230100


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U.S. under U.N. law in health emergency
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Posted: August 28, 2007
11:15 p.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=230224#230224


Now Hitlery wouldn't do anything like this-- would she Say what? Wink Laughing


Kathleen Willey: Clintons stole my manuscript
House burglary over weekend targeted copy of book days after details leaked to press

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Posted: September 5, 2007
7:00 p.m. Eastern


By Art Moore
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=231755#231755


Well apparently others agree with me that it is a National Security and war on terrorism issue- which should trump any trade deal at this time....Dr. Corsi has been trying to wake up the public to GW's sellout of the US for sometime--a sellout which goes much beyond just Clintons NAFTA.....It is nice to see 74 Senators also are beginning to see it.....
I have to commend Rep. Hunter- as being there he is right on the front line of our sell out of America.....

Quote:
Author: Senate vote to block Mexican trucks from U.S. highways a good start, but...
(WebWire) 9/11/2007 9:17:11 PM


Los Angeles, CA (9/11/07) -- For Jerome Corsi, author of the New York Times bestseller "The Late Great U.S.A: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada" (WND Books, ISBN 0-9790451-4-2, $25.95, July 2007), it's ironic that, on 9/11 of all days, the United States Senate voted to block Mexican trucks from United States highways -- something that George W. Bush pushed hard to allow, overriding the desires of both the House of Representatives and millions of Americans.

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=233318#233318


Sandhusker-- it appears as tho some Congressmen got reminded that NAFTA is not a "treaty"--but only a law-- that can be altered or removed with amendments or another law..... Wink Laughing

Quote:
WND reported last week Cornyn's offer of a side-by-side amendment to defeat an amendment by Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., to remove funding from the Fiscal Year 2008 Department of Transportation appropriations bill for the department's trucking demonstration project to allow Mexican trucks on U.S. highways.

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=233952#233952


Here is another link to an article about this back door attempt---It also appears as tho during last weeks truck arguments, some Congressmen got reminded that NAFTA is not a "treaty" --but only a law-- that can be altered or removed with amendments or another law.....


Quote:
WND reported last week Cornyn's offer of a side-by-side amendment to defeat an amendment by Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., to remove funding from the Fiscal Year 2008 Department of Transportation appropriations bill for the department's trucking demonstration project to allow Mexican trucks on U.S. highways.

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=233954#233954


I thought GW said there was no plans for a Superhighway or a North American Union....Something about it being a laughable conspiracy theory Say what? This Mexican mayor must be just joking eh GW Say what? Sad

Again the Mexicans blame all their problems on the US--and that we should just happily lower our standard of living to theirs and then there will no longer be an alien problem.... Rolling Eyes
Its starting to appear thats what GW's economic policy is too--but he's still got a ways to go in devaluing the dollar...
Sad Sad Sad
1.00 Mexican pesos = 0.09 US dollars

Exchange rate: 0.091016
Rate valid as of: 9/21/2007




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Mexican official urges North American Union
Tells Denver trade conference EU is 'model we need to follow quickly'

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Posted: September 21, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Michael Howe
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=234918#234918


Congress debate begins on North America Union
Resolution calls for end of NAFTA superhighway, abandonment of integration with Canada, Mexico

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Posted: September 25, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=235639#235639


I finally figured out how GW plans to get rid of this huge national debt-- form the NAU, with the Amero as the new currency and give the debt to the Canucks .........

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PREMEDITATED MERGER
Amero plot real, says biz columnist
Cites 'usually reliable' sources in plans for dollar's end

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Posted: October 11, 2007
1:11 p.m. Eastern

© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=238651#238651


If we'd let President jigs and the Big Red One to open fire and plant a few hundred Mexican troops on the US side, it would be tougher for Cherkoff and GW to deny its happening....


Quote:
Armed with machine guns, the men were trying to bring more than three tons of marijuana across the border in military vehicles.



As WND reported in February 2006, an American law enforcement officer and news crew in Hudspeth County, Texas, witnessed an armed incursion into the U.S. by men dressed in Mexican army attire, the second such incident in two weeks.

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=239917#239917


Another behind the back move after both Congress and the American people have said NO Shocked Say what? Outright ARROGANCE Sad Sad Mad Mad

PREMEDITATED MERGER
Bush officials team with Mexico to defend trucks
But Congress members opposed to vehicles on U.S. roads won't budge

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Posted: October 18, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Michael Howe
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=240112#240112


YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK

Here piggie, piggie! Billions in fed trough
Millions earmarked for La Raza radicals, Charlie Rangel library, more 2008 pork

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Posted: October 19, 2007
1:33 a.m. Eastern



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I don't know how many are aware of this--Senators Chuck Hagel (R-NE), Richard Lugar (R-IN), and Dick Durbin (D-IL) introduced the DREAM Act--- but its been sitting for some time- now Reid is trying to run it thru before anyone knows about it....When you count in "family members you are talking millions and millions of illegal immigrants getting amnesty....

Its going to take immediate e-mails and calls to your Senators to stop it...I burned up the phone lines this afternoon....

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Reid reviving 'amnesty' for illegals
'DREAM' grant of legality to millions on fast track for vote tomorrow

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Posted: October 23, 2007
1:30 p.m. Eastern



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You'd think if these guys are going to tell falsehoods- they would at least all get together and tell the same story Say what? Rolling Eyes Shocked Sad Mad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br31mdP8-Ug

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PREMEDITATED MERGER
Canada openly proclaims NAFTA Superhighway
Readers bombard Newsweek with evidence after adverse story on Ron Paul

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Posted: December 8, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
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http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=249201&highlight=wnd#249201


Is this America or Nazi Germany?

The rest of the Story-- I figured there was more....

The last time I had contact with someone like this was with a "minister" who refused access to Social workers or law enforcement to talk to or examine this daughters- after the oldest daughter (19) spilled the beans on how her father had had sex with the daughters since they were age 13-and had even made the mother perform "marriage ceremonies" with him and the daughters....The daughter talked to save the youngest (12) from the same years of hell with a nut she and her sisters had gone thru......

Sounds like the Sheriff handled it the same way I would have when dealing with a nut......To do anything else would have been negligent and could have unduly endangered other family members, the neighborhood and especially the officers......
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POLICE STATE, USA
Sheriff defends capture of boy by SWAT team
Says father challenged officers to bring 'army' upon their return

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Posted: January 12, 2008
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Bob Unruh
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http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=255408#255408


Heres the whole story...And GW's boys screwed up again in the way they wrote up their briefs-- and has every gun owner, Conservative, and Constitutionalist wonder what GW is doing.....Its what occurs when you put cronyism above competency in hiring/appointing Cabinet members and staff....



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WEAPONS OF CHOICE
National firearms ban 'reasonable'?
Gun owners warn arguments endanger Second Amendment

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Posted: January 19, 2008
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=256708#256708


Apparently the Conservatives are not buying that John McCain is a conservative Say what? Wink Laughing Razz But GW said he was Say what? Wink Laughing Razz

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ELECTION 2008
John McCain funded by Soros since 2001
Candidate's Reform Institute also accepted funds from Teresa Kerry

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Posted: February 12, 2008
1:00 am Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=261795#261795


The elitists control the country- and it isn't going to matter that much who gets into office- they are all in somebodies pocket.....

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Author: George Soros brains behind McCain-Feingold
'Activist wanted limits on advertising after Hillarycare defeat'

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Posted: February 18, 2008
10:05 pm Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=263067#263067


Another Step Toward a North American Union Dictatorship

Are you Canadians aware of this ?

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N. American Army created without OK by Congress
U.S., Canada military ink deal to fight domestic emergencies

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Posted: February 24, 2008
1:45 pm Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=264148#264148


PREMEDITATED MERGER
Mexican truck drivers take
English exam in Spanish
DOT chief's admission to Senate panel
contradicts administration's assurances

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Posted: March 14, 2008
12:45 am Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=268380#268380


Will Alan Keyes be a 3rd Party candidate?

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ELECTION 2008
Voting 'no' on Hillary, Obama and McCain
Is this the year for 3rd party candidate?

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Posted: March 24, 2008
9:47 pm Eastern

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Constitution Party candidate says U.S. sovereignty at risk
'Washington is problem, not Baghdad, or Tehran'

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Posted: April 29, 2008
10:12 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh
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http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=278182#278182


McCain, Obama or 'none of the above'?
2008 could be historic election of non-participation

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Posted: June 17, 2008
9:53 pm Eastern

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http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=285355#285355


While I may agree with Cheneys position on global warming-- I don't believe Government should be stymying any info on all theorys or position...Thats not supposed to be governments job in whats supposed to be an open and transparent Republic "of the people".... That only fits in a dictatorship where you don't want people to know things that are happening- and you have to control by censorship...

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/cheney_climate_testimony/2008/07/08/110938.html

Since when did NewsMax become a left wing source Say what? ...I always considered them, FOX, and WorldNet Daily to be conservative- in fact WND is even leaning right wing.....
If you want to look- these stories are being sourced by media of all political affiliation-- and one of the toughest on how the Bush Boys have crapped on our Constitution and misled us by lies and deception is WND- a very conservative publication....

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=288496#288496


Tyson replaces Labor Day with Muslim Eid al-Fitr
Chicken company: Workers wanted Islamic religious event recognized

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Posted: August 02, 2008
12:10 am Eastern


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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
OT, did you take a look at this yet?

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32550

The right wing folks- like WND and the John Birchers been have been claiming this is the path GW has been on for years...In fact they predicted an economic Bust under him- to lower the dollar down to the value of the Peso- so that he could further bring on the North American Union and force the Amero down everyones throats....

But when I posted any of those articles, I was just a Bush Basher.... :roll:

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=347972#347972


Oldtimer said:
MoGal said:
Probably because they would have to admit we have the most antichristian president ever who is furthering a global agenda that is not in the best interests of the USA or the american people.

Probably because they would have to admit that his "change" to Hitler's socialism and fascism was not what they had in mind.

MoGal-- Who did you support for President ?
You've peaked my curiosity since you were saying much of the same WND conspiracy and John Birch rhetoric against Bush and the Republicans when they were in control...

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=365250#365250
 
I don't have to print any of them anymore- you print everything radical right wing that comes out now.... :wink: :lol:

But there are usually more sides to most issues than just the radical rights side- and WND articles/issues need to be researched before posting/believing- or you end up printing ones like FH did that are totally false and misleading....They have a reputation of printing dubious reports on some of their biased issues...

Still doesn't change the issue at hand- just like Mike has posted several times- the US has NEVER lain claim to or claimed sovereignty over the Alaskan islands at issue- so FH's (and the radical rights) claim that Obama is giving them away is pure BS...

But that false e-mail put out by the radical right continues to circulate- even tho it is totally false-- and it sucks in many weaker minded folks and cultists that won't look any further than what their herders tell them....
 
Oldtimer said:
I don't have to print any of them anymore- you print everything radical right wing that comes out now.... :wink: :lol:

But there are usually more sides to most issues than just the radical rights side- and WND articles/issues need to be researched before posting/believing- or you end up printing ones like FH did that are totally false and misleading....They have a reputation of printing dubious reports on some of their biased issues...

Still doesn't change the issue at hand- just like Mike has posted several times- the US has NEVER lain claim to or claimed sovereignty over the Alaskan islands at issue- so FH's (and the radical rights) claim that Obama is giving them away is pure BS...

But that false e-mail put out by the radical right continues to circulate- even tho it is totally false-- and it sucks in many weaker minded folks and cultists that won't look any further than what their herders tell them....


So why did you stop researching their articles when obama became President?
 
hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
I don't have to print any of them anymore- you print everything radical right wing that comes out now.... :wink: :lol:

But there are usually more sides to most issues than just the radical rights side- and WND articles/issues need to be researched before posting/believing- or you end up printing ones like FH did that are totally false and misleading....They have a reputation of printing dubious reports on some of their biased issues...

Still doesn't change the issue at hand- just like Mike has posted several times- the US has NEVER lain claim to or claimed sovereignty over the Alaskan islands at issue- so FH's (and the radical rights) claim that Obama is giving them away is pure BS...

But that false e-mail put out by the radical right continues to circulate- even tho it is totally false-- and it sucks in many weaker minded folks and cultists that won't look any further than what their herders tell them....


So why did you stop researching their articles when obama became President?

You were putting up every rightwing anti Obama post already.... :p

I just gave you the other side of the issue that WND didn't look at or consider..
 
Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
I don't have to print any of them anymore- you print everything radical right wing that comes out now.... :wink: :lol:

But there are usually more sides to most issues than just the radical rights side- and WND articles/issues need to be researched before posting/believing- or you end up printing ones like FH did that are totally false and misleading....They have a reputation of printing dubious reports on some of their biased issues...

Still doesn't change the issue at hand- just like Mike has posted several times- the US has NEVER lain claim to or claimed sovereignty over the Alaskan islands at issue- so FH's (and the radical rights) claim that Obama is giving them away is pure BS...



But that false e-mail put out by the radical right continues to circulate- even tho it is totally false-- and it sucks in many weaker minded folks and cultists that won't look any further than what their herders tell them....


So why did you stop researching their articles when obama became President?

You were putting up every rightwing anti Obama post already.... :p

I just gave you the other side of the issue that WND didn't look at or consideder...
Oh I forgot OT; YOU are the one that is fair and balanced
and the rest of us are off our rocker. One thing for sure, there is world
of anti-Obama information out there so it's easily accessed.
 
hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
I don't have to print any of them anymore- you print everything radical right wing that comes out now.... :wink: :lol:

But there are usually more sides to most issues than just the radical rights side- and WND articles/issues need to be researched before posting/believing- or you end up printing ones like FH did that are totally false and misleading....They have a reputation of printing dubious reports on some of their biased issues...

Still doesn't change the issue at hand- just like Mike has posted several times- the US has NEVER lain claim to or claimed sovereignty over the Alaskan islands at issue- so FH's (and the radical rights) claim that Obama is giving them away is pure BS...

But that false e-mail put out by the radical right continues to circulate- even tho it is totally false-- and it sucks in many weaker minded folks and cultists that won't look any further than what their herders tell them....


So why did you stop researching their articles when obama became President?

Because his cultist herder that serve him Koolaid under bright lights told him to stop searching for the truth and listen to the voices in his head that tell him OBAMA IS RIGHT. :roll:
 

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