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ObamaCare A Failure

Mike

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http://mercatus.org/expert_commentary/unfolding-fiscal-disaster-behind-aca-enrollment-figures

It is quite possible that the ACA is shaping up as the greatest act of fiscal irresponsibility ever committed by federal legislators. Nothing immediately comes to mind as comparable to it.
 
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Anonymous

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loomixguy said:
OT will go down supporting it...his handlers made it a law, you know...and he supports the "law."

I still think- just like Medicare and Social Security- after it gets tweaked and altered to make it work better- and the entire law goes into effect it will be widely accepted by the nation... Just like those programs it may take 10-20 years before it will show all its benefits or be completely accepted ...

I have believed in the "individual mandate" for health insurance since it was first proposed by Nixon- and then later when it was put up by the Heritage Foundation and Republicans/Conservatives as an alternative to Hillarycare...

The Heritage plan:




http://www.greanvillepost.com/2013/11/16/yes-it-was-a-republican-idea-the-heritage-foundations-obamacare-blueprint/

Besides just myself- before partisan politics took priority over what was best for the nation/citizens there were a lot of Republican/Conservative leaders that believed like I do...

The Individual Mandate Is a Republican Idea

This is odd because the individual mandate, the cornerstone of Obamacare, was originally a conservative idea. It was first proposed by the Heritage Foundation in 1989. And scores of Republicans—not just Mitt Romney—have backed the idea in the past couple of decades. Here are some of the GOPers who supported Obamacare before Obama:

1. Rick Santorum?

2. President George H.W. Bush:

3. Former Vice President Dan Quayle:

4. Mitt Romney:

5. Newt Gingrich:

6. Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kansas)

7. Sen. John Chafee (R-R.I.)

8. Sen. Robert Bennet (R-Utah)

9. Sen. Christopher Bond (R-Mo.)

10. Sen. George Brown (R-Colo.)

11. Sen. John Danforth (R-Mo.)

12. Sen. Pete Domenici (R-N.M.)

13. Sen. David Durenberger (R-Minn.)

14. Sen. Duncan Faircloth (R-N.C.)

15. Sen. William Cohen (R-Maine)

16. Sen. Slade Gorton (R-Wash.)

17. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa)

18. Sen. Mark Hatfield (R-Ore.)

19. Sen. Nancy Kassebaum (R-Kansas)

20. Sen. Dick Lugar (R-Ind.)

21. Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.)

22. Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.)

23. Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska)

24. Sen. John Warner (R-Va.)

25. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah)
 

loomixguy

Well-known member
"Tweaked and altered"? :roll:

You're a special kind of stupid, aren't ya?

If the shoe was on the other foot and the Repubs had rammed this through...having to pass it so they could find out what's in it....I could hear you hollering clear down here! :roll:
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Ain't it grand that all those people who were turned away from doctors before obamacare are now getting health care.

Is free really free or it that someone else is buying whatever is supposedly free.

Liberalism finds ways to justifying theft
 

Mike

Well-known member
I'd bet none of the Republicans listed above would vote for a mandate that would raise the price of insurance for everyone to almost double and to put that kind of cost to the taxpayer.

A "Mandate" alone does not make the cost to everyone universal & exhorbitant.

What we're doing is making the subsidies be paid by the middle & upper class so that there are no premiums to speak of for the rest. And those at the low end get Medicaid......FREE INSURANCE.

Hell, I wouldn't mind a mandate if the insurance were reasonably priced.
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And just so you know. The ER freebie clients at all the local hospitals has doubled in the past 3 months and the ER's are asking the counties for more funding for indigents.......................
 

Steve

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When you have a liberal such as Susan Estrich points out a major flaw of Obamacare.. lack of access to services.. you know there is going to be a huge backlash against the law..

Exactly what kind of care are people going to receive under the Affordable Care Act? And who is going to provide it?

Who knows? Certainly not most of the doctors I talk to.

I walked into one practice last week that has four doctors, and there was a big sign at the front about which doctor you could see based on which plan you are on

At the hospital where I get tests, there was a big sign advising patients to call a toll-free number to find out whether the plans they are considering would allow them to continue using the hospital. The short answer is that many of them don’t.

Welcome to the shakedown period. Welcome to the host of problems that need to be fixed.

The business of what doctors you can see, what hospitals you can use — very big problem. The waiting lines for doctors who accept all kinds of plans — very big problem. The confusion and expense of having a “new” plan that costs more because it covers services you don’t need and at the same time forces you to leave the doctors who know you — not so good.

Obamacare should not be repealed, and it won’t be. But it needs to be fixed, and that’s not a problem the IT guys and girls can solve. So fasten your seatbelts. We’re in for some rocky times,
http://www.rgj.com/story/opinion/columnists/2014/04/20/susan-estrich-obamacare-now-comes-hard-part/7798367/



AP poll shows ObamaCare support hits new low … of 26%
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/28/ap-poll-shows-obamacare-support-hits-new-low-of-26/

and it can only get worse... ouch.. rocky times or rock bottom?
 

Traveler

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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/376191/dem-congressman-obamacare-worst-yet-come-its-going-hit-fan-andrew-johnson?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
 
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