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ObamaCare Numbers Questioned

Mike

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Just 67 percent of Obamacare enrollees in federally-run marketplaces had paid their premiums by April 15, bringing the federally-run Obamacare enrollment tally to only 2.45 million, according to documents provided to the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

The Obama administration has been heavily promoting that 8 million Americans selected plans on Obamacare marketplaces, but has refused to release any data on how many purchased their plans.

The 67 percent payment rate as of April 15 is markedly lower than the 80-85 percent that experts have predicted will end up paying their premiums. April 30 is the final day for most federal exchange customers to make their payments.

Of those who have paid their premiums, just 25 percent fall within the highly desired young invincible range from age 18 to 34 — drastically lower than the administration’s minimum goal of 39 percent needed to avoid premium hikes next year.

“In a sad reversal away from its vows of transparency, the Obama administration, from inside the Oval Office on down, has gone to extraordinary lengths to keep basic details of the health care law from the public,” said Michigan Republican Rep. Fred Upton, chairman of the committee. “Tired of receiving incomplete pictures of enrollment in the health care law, we went right to the source and found that the administration’s recent declarations of success may be unfounded.”

The Obama administration has been touting exchanges’ 8 million sign-ups far and wide, but have come under fire for refusing to release any data on the number of Americans that have actually paid for their health care plans.
 

Tam

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Four Pinocchios to Obama on Medicaid-expansion claims
posted at 8:41 am on February 24, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

It’s not the first time that the Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler has dropped a bunch of Pinocchios on claims from Democrats on Medicaid expansion, and it looks like it won’t be the last, either. Kessler even gave himself three Pinocchios a month ago for initially buying the White House spin on the Medicaid numbers. Today, he gives Barack Obama the maximum four Pinocchios for claiming that ObamaCare has resulted in seven million enrollments in the federal program for low-income Americans:


“We’ve got close to 7 million Americans who have access to health care for the first time because of Medicaid expansion.”

– President Obama, remarks during dinner with the Democratic Governors Association, Feb. 20, 2014

The Fact Checker has written several times about the fuzziness of the Medicaid numbers issued by the Obama administration. But it is like playing whack-a-mole. Every time we rap someone for getting it wrong, the same problem pops up someplace else.

The problem is, as it has been, Democrats using the total number of Medicaid enrollments over the last few months, which comes to slightly over seven million. That includes, however, enrollments in states that refused to participate in the Medicaid expansion of ObamaCare, which account for 2.3 million of those enrollments. That takes the number to 4.8 million — but as Kessler has repeatedly explained since giving himself three Pinocchios on the point, that still includes people who would have been eligible without the Medicaid expansion.

How many does that leave? That depends on who you ask, because believe it or not, HHS never bothered to ask enrollees. Politico reports today that ObamaCare numbers on the previously uninsured moving to both Medicaid and private insurance are unreliable because HHS didn’t bother to provide questions that would have provided that data:


When you go to all this trouble to cover the uninsured, is it really that unreasonable to ask how many uninsured people Obamacare has covered so far?

The answer, apparently, is: Yes. It’s unreasonable.

The truth is, nobody has a good, real-time fix on how successful the Affordable Care Act has been in reducing the ranks of the uninsured. The Obama administration hasn’t been able to say how many of the 3.3 million people who have signed up for private health insurance coverage, or of the 6.3 million who have been determined eligible for Medicaid, were actually uninsured before — and health care experts aren’t sure yet, either.

There have been a couple of surveys, and at least one state — New York — has been keeping track of how many people were uninsured when they applied for coverage. But their answers are so wildly different that all we can say is, it’s either a tiny minority that were uninsured, or it’s most of them.

Two different groups have estimated the extent to which ObamaCare has expanded Medicaid to the uninsured. One is Acela, which estimates the figure at between 1.1 million and 1.8 million. Kessler also quotes Charles Gaba, who puts the number at 2.6 million. Both are far below Barack Obama’s claims, and also far below what the administration expected to see by this stage. The most motivated of all the uninsured should have been those eligible for Medicaid, and yet we haven’t seen a rush to enroll — and those who are motivated to do so probably already have. That means there won’t be a big spike coming in the next couple of months.

Kessler wonders how the President could be so ignorant of the weakness of this data:


In any case, no matter how you slice it, it does not add up to 7 million. It is dismaying that given all of the attention to this issue, the president apparently does not realize that the administration’s data are woefully inadequate for boastful assertions of this type.

I’d say it has less to do with ignorance than apathy. He doesn’t care whether the numbers are accurate or worthwhile — he just wants the talking point.

Politifact awards ‘Lie of the Year’ to Obama
By Aaron Blake
December 12, 2013 at 5:08 pm

The fact-checking Web site Politifact has named President Obama's claim that people could keep their health insurance plans if they liked them its "Lie of the Year."

Obama in recent years has repeated some variation of the following phrase: "If you like your health-care plan, you can keep it." The problem was, it wasn't true, as millions of Americans with health plans that didn't meet Obamacare's standards got cancellation notices.

"Boiling down the complicated health care law to a soundbite proved treacherous, even for its promoter-in-chief," the Web site wrote. "Obama and his team made matters worse, suggesting they had been misunderstood all along. The stunning political uproar led to this: a rare presidential apology."

Obama, of course, was hardly the only Democrat to make the claim. But he made it repeatedly and had a bigger bullhorn than anybody else.

Last year, Politifact gave the dubious award to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign for suggesting that Jeep was moving its production lines to China.

In 2011, Democrats were given the award for their claim that Republicans were trying to "end Medicare."


Does anyone really believe a word coming out of The Liar and Chief's mouth any more. Last night he took time at the Correspondence Dinner to do his little pat me on the back show over Obamacare numbers AGAIN. It really was nothing but another chance for him to use his bully pulpit to bash the Republicans and FOX News and his liberal Media puppets and he adoring Celebs to feed his ego by laughing at his sick stand up routine we see every time he has a mic stuck in his face. He is so thin skinned you can see just how gutless he really is every time he tries to defend yet another scandal and attempt to lie about Obamacare numbers. :mad:
 

Tam

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Mike said:
I want to know where my $2,500.00 per year savings is. :mad:

Didn't you see Goolsbee last night explaining Obama's claimed $2500 in savings is in what you might have paid in Premiums verse what you are paying since Obama has inflicted Obamacare on you?

Your $2500 savings is like all those jobs Obama "created" when because of a few stimulus dollars all those teachers and firemen were not laid off. Yep they were created jobs just like the non sky rocketing premiums due to Obamacare is your savings. OOPS nope the Premiums are still skyrocketing and will continue to once the insurance companies realize they do not have the healthy in those Obamacare risk pools. So I think Obama might have LIED YET AGAIN. Who would have guessed????
 
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