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Obama's Hawaii birth hospital

alice

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http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/category/birth-location/

After you've checked out the hospital, scroll on down this page and discover what grandmother Sarah really said...in fact discover much, much more...if you consider yourself to be open minded and not totally entrenched in the birther conspiracy theory.

Alice
 

Sandhusker

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alice said:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/category/birth-location/

After you've checked out the hospital, scroll on down this page and discover what grandmother Sarah really said...in fact discover much, much more...if you consider yourself to be open minded and not totally entrenched in the birther conspiracy theory.

Alice

Then why did he tell UPI that he was born at Queens? Either Obama or your Obama site is wrong.
 

Tam

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alice said:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/category/birth-location/

After you've checked out the hospital, scroll on down this page and discover what grandmother Sarah really said...in fact discover much, much more...if you consider yourself to be open minded and not totally entrenched in the birther conspiracy theory.

Alice

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103306

An affidavit submitted to WND by Rev. Kweli Shuhubia, an Anabaptist minister in Kenya, who is the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptist Conference in Kenya, asserts "it is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., was born in Mombasa, Kenya."

Shuhubia further states in his affidavit that he visited Obama's grandmother at her home in the village of Alego-Kogello, on Oct. 16, 2008, in order to conduct a telephone conference interview that would connect with McRae in the United States.

During the telephone interview, McRae specifically asked Sarah Obama two times, "Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya."

"Both times she specifically replied, 'Yes,'" Shuhubia affirmed in the affidavit.

"Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States," Shuhubia continued in the affidavit.

And about the hospital Alice, explain why websites are being change after Obama was quoted saying he was born in Queen's Hospital. I'm pretty sure a guy of his age should know what hospital he was born in since it is right there on his long form birth certificate. We all know he can read the telepromter so why can't he read the hospital's name and keep it straight. :wink:
 

loomixguy

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Tam said:
alice said:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/category/birth-location/

After you've checked out the hospital, scroll on down this page and discover what grandmother Sarah really said...in fact discover much, much more...if you consider yourself to be open minded and not totally entrenched in the birther conspiracy theory.

Alice

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103306

An affidavit submitted to WND by Rev. Kweli Shuhubia, an Anabaptist minister in Kenya, who is the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptist Conference in Kenya, asserts "it is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., was born in Mombasa, Kenya."

Shuhubia further states in his affidavit that he visited Obama's grandmother at her home in the village of Alego-Kogello, on Oct. 16, 2008, in order to conduct a telephone conference interview that would connect with McRae in the United States.

During the telephone interview, McRae specifically asked Sarah Obama two times, "Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya."

"Both times she specifically replied, 'Yes,'" Shuhubia affirmed in the affidavit.

"Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States," Shuhubia continued in the affidavit.

And about the hospital Alice, explain why websites are being change after Obama was quoted saying he was born in Queen's Hospital. I'm pretty sure a guy of his age should know what hospital he was born in since it is right there on his long form birth certificate. We all know he can read the telepromter so why can't he read the hospital's name and keep it straight. :wink:

Shacks with dirt floors in Africa don't usually have names..........
 

aplusmnt

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Maybe we are all blowing this up to big. Maybe he was really born in the U.S.

Maybe the truth to the story is he is just an idiot that does not know how many states are part of the U.S. or know where he was born.

Maybe the answer is he is just stupid!

Wonder if you liberals feel better knowing he is an idiot but born in the U.S.?
 

alice

Well-known member
Tam said:
alice said:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/category/birth-location/

After you've checked out the hospital, scroll on down this page and discover what grandmother Sarah really said...in fact discover much, much more...if you consider yourself to be open minded and not totally entrenched in the birther conspiracy theory.

Alice

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103306

An affidavit submitted to WND by Rev. Kweli Shuhubia, an Anabaptist minister in Kenya, who is the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptist Conference in Kenya, asserts "it is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., was born in Mombasa, Kenya."

Shuhubia further states in his affidavit that he visited Obama's grandmother at her home in the village of Alego-Kogello, on Oct. 16, 2008, in order to conduct a telephone conference interview that would connect with McRae in the United States.

During the telephone interview, McRae specifically asked Sarah Obama two times, "Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya."

"Both times she specifically replied, 'Yes,'" Shuhubia affirmed in the affidavit.

"Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States," Shuhubia continued in the affidavit.

And about the hospital Alice, explain why websites are being change after Obama was quoted saying he was born in Queen's Hospital. I'm pretty sure a guy of his age should know what hospital he was born in since it is right there on his long form birth certificate. We all know he can read the telepromter so why can't he read the hospital's name and keep it straight. :wink:

I find WND information no more credible than you find what I've discovered. As I knew all along, it wouldn't matter if evidence was presented that was blessed by God Almighty, birthers will always be birthers, and will carry on their conspiratorial little way.

Alice
 

Tam

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alice said:
Tam said:
alice said:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/category/birth-location/

After you've checked out the hospital, scroll on down this page and discover what grandmother Sarah really said...in fact discover much, much more...if you consider yourself to be open minded and not totally entrenched in the birther conspiracy theory.

Alice

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103306

An affidavit submitted to WND by Rev. Kweli Shuhubia, an Anabaptist minister in Kenya, who is the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptist Conference in Kenya, asserts "it is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., was born in Mombasa, Kenya."

Shuhubia further states in his affidavit that he visited Obama's grandmother at her home in the village of Alego-Kogello, on Oct. 16, 2008, in order to conduct a telephone conference interview that would connect with McRae in the United States.

During the telephone interview, McRae specifically asked Sarah Obama two times, "Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya."

"Both times she specifically replied, 'Yes,'" Shuhubia affirmed in the affidavit.

"Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States," Shuhubia continued in the affidavit.

And about the hospital Alice, explain why websites are being change after Obama was quoted saying he was born in Queen's Hospital. I'm pretty sure a guy of his age should know what hospital he was born in since it is right there on his long form birth certificate. We all know he can read the telepromter so why can't he read the hospital's name and keep it straight. :wink:

I find WND information no more credible than you find what I've discovered. As I knew all along, it wouldn't matter if evidence was presented that was blessed by God Almighty, birthers will always be birthers, and will carry on their conspiratorial little way.

Alice

What evidence? You still have not provided us with any evidence to why Obama has a team of lawyers stopping everybody from viewing his birth records, college records or passport that he used to get into a county that ban US citizens? He claims to be honest and transparent but he has a team of lawyers helpping him hide his past from the World WHY??????" ARE THESE THE ACTIONS OF AN HONEST TRANSPARENT MAN? And if he is opennly hiding his past should he be trusted to run the strongest country in the world? :? :roll:
 

alice

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Sandhusker said:
Weren't we promised transparancy, Alice?

Yes we were. The state of Hawaii and Obama have released the birth certificate. It's not the birth cert. that you want, but it was released. Again, it wouldn't matter what was presented or how it was presented...once a birther always a birther.

Sandhusker, I know someone who honestly believes, beyond any doubt, that JFK is still alive and being kept on life support in the top floor of Parkland Hospital in Dallas. He has got all kinds of "proof" to back it up...statements from Secret Service, blah, blah, blah. This person at one time had top secret security clearance and accumulated all of the "proof" during that time.

Now, do you believe that JFK is possibly being kept alive on the top floor of Parkland Hospital? There's "proof" of that...I've seen the "proof." Do I believe this bunch of ambiguous, half baked proof? Hell no!

Anybody can present anything and if they have enough conviction, and just a little bit of plausible information, they can spin and sell anything...especially conspiracy theories.

Alice
 

hypocritexposer

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here's what Alice's website provides as proof of Obama's birth hospital.


66Where Obama was born
Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 in Birth Location
Was it in Kenya? Was it in Canada? Was it at home in Hawaii, attested to by one parent?

No. It seems President Obama was born exactly where we always thought he was, at the Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu

Really, then why has he and his family claimed he was born at Queen's medical previously?

(side note on this letter. Would it not be illegal to re-produce a letter such as this, with Obama's signature on it? Because since this letter was first published on the hospital website, it has changed to an official letterhead, with the Whitehouse seal, although the WH has refused to verify it's authenticity.)

obamahospitalletter.jpg


Looks good Alice, except for this.

"Obama described his birth at Queen's Medical Center in Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961, to a young white woman from Kansas and a father of Luo ethnicity from Nyanza Province in Kenya, as an 'all-America' story transcending orthodox racial stereotypes and experience."


upiobamascreenshot.jpg


Now if you check out the link to the story, it has been changed.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/04/Sen-Barack-Obama-Democrat-of-Illinois/UPI-33901225647000/

The reporter must have mis heard Obama.

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From Alice's favorite website It's beginning to look like the anonymous guy that maintains obamaconspiracies does not check facts.

[The persistent Internet rumor that Barack Obama's half sister Maya claimed that he was born at Queens Hospital, is not true.]

But then there is this article from 2004, from an interview with his sister. Before this was even an issue

rainboweditionobamascreenshot.jpg


http://www.obamacrimes.info/103008Exhibit%20Charter%20Schools%20Rainbow%20Edition%20Newsletter.pdf

How about the Organizing for America campaign website.

It states:
"Barack Hussein OBAMA was born on 4 August 1961 at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein OBAMA, Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann DUNHAM of Wichita, Kansas."

mybaracktwo.jpg


How about the Library of Congress?

William Addams Reitwiesner, genealogist at the Library of Congress (Like Nonothing says, "I'm sure Congress vetted him") So they probably would have asked Obama, correct?

genealogytwo.jpg


Nope, move along, nothing fishy going on here. The President of the US is lying through his teeth and the obamazombies just follow right along.

What does this prove? First off, it proves that obamaconspiracies. com doesn't check facts, they just write whatever and make stuff up.

Second, either way it shows that he was not properly vetted. Because if they had they would have known that he was born at Kapi’olani Medical Center, as Obama now claims.

Question for Nonothing? How is it that Congress saw his documents to check his eligibility, but the Library of Congress just pulled a hospital name out of a hat, and were incorrect? Where did they come up with Queen's medical Centre, if they saw his documents?
 

Tam

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alice said:
Sandhusker said:
Sandhusker said:
Alice, "The state of Hawaii and Obama have released the birth certificate."

When?

WHEN, Alice.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/01/obamas-birth-certificate-final-chapter-time-we-mea/

I question their credibility on anything Obama when they have this on their website
No. 515: No family making less than $250,000 will see "any form of tax increase.""I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

And they have rated this promise as a "compromise"

BULL Anybody with a half a brain knows this promise was broken within days of Obama being sworn in. As anyone that smokes had their taxes go up when he signed his Child Health Care Bill. I know alot of smokers that make far less than $250K so he out and out lied about the any form of taxes crap.

Rasmussen released poll results yesterday that said 78% of Americans believe taxes are going to go up for the middle class due to Obama's Health Care Plans. They already have and will again if he gets his way with Health Care or Cap and Tax. 22% of Americans are not looking at the facts and neither apparently is Politifacts. :roll: Compromised :roll:
 

alice

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Tam said:
alice said:
Sandhusker said:
WHEN, Alice.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/01/obamas-birth-certificate-final-chapter-time-we-mea/

I question their credibility on anything Obama when they have this on their website
No. 515: No family making less than $250,000 will see "any form of tax increase.""I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

And they have rated this promise as a "compromise"

BULL Anybody with a half a brain knows this promise was broken within days of Obama being sworn in. As anyone that smokes had their taxes go up when he signed his Child Health Care Bill. I know alot of smokers that make far less than $250K so he out and out lied about the any form of taxes crap.

Rasmussen released poll results yesterday that said 78% of Americans believe taxes are going to go up for the middle class due to Obama's Health Care Plans. They already have and will again if he gets his way with Health Care or Cap and Tax. 22% of Americans are not looking at the facts and neither apparently is Politifacts. :roll: Compromised :roll:

I question their credibility on anything Obama

Of course you do, Tam...I never would have expected different. :lol: :lol:

Alice
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
MR. GIBBS: Are you looking for the President’s birth certificate?


KINGSOLVING: Yes.

MR. GIBBS: It’s on the Internet, Lester.

KINGSOLVING says what’s on the internet [what Gibbs previously referred to as barry's birth certificate] is not a birth certificate.

GIBBS: I KNOW.

Oh, but Hypocrite. You pasted a very small part of the exchange, and it's not matching up with what you claim...hmmmmm.

Kinsolving: "One question concerning what the president said in his speech on Thursday, and I quote, 'I ran for president promising transparency, and I meant what I said. This is why, whenever possible, we will make information available to the American people so they can make informed judgments and hold us accountable.' End of quote. Do you remember that statement?"

Gibbs: "I can confirm he said that."

Kinsolving: "Good. In consideration of this very good promise of transparency, why can't the president respond to the petitioned requests of 400,000 American citizens by releasing a certified copy of his long form birth certificate listing hospital and physician?"

Gibbs: "Are you looking for the president's birth certificate?"

Kinsolving: "Yes."

Gibbs: "It's on the Internet, Lester."

Kinsolving: "No, no, no — the long form listing his hospital and physician."

Gibbs: "Lester ... This question in many ways continues to astound me. The state of Hawaii provided a copy, with a seal, of the president's birth. I know there are apparently at least 400,000 people that continue to doubt the existence of and the certification by the state of Hawaii of the president's birth there, but it's on the Internet because we put it on the Internet for each of those 400,000 to download. I certainly hope by the fourth year of our administration that we'll have dealt with this burgeoning birth controversy."

Alice
 

Sandhusker

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So then where is it, Alice? Ever hear of "Trust, but verify"? You're trusting a den of liars but refuse to verify. I'd like to verify the existance of said certificate, but it's not out there as Gibbs said it is.

WHERE IS IT, ALICE?
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Here Alice, I'll help you put it together.


May 27, 2009 Says the BC is on the internet
MR. GIBBS: Are you looking for the President’s birth certificate?


KINGSOLVING: Yes.

MR. GIBBS: It’s on the Internet, Lester.


July 13, 09 Acknowledges that it is not a BC.
KINGSOLVER: It’s not a birth certificate.

MR. GIBBS: I know.

Semantics – whatever you want – there it is: “I KNOW.” Gibbs admitting he has been lying when he called it a birth certificate when it is not.
 
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