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Obama's military- Bible banned, Ramadan a requirement.

iwannabeacowboy

Well-known member
It’s an Obama world.

The US Air Force kicked Christian Gideon’s volunteers off base in March.
The Bibles were too offensive and violated the separation of church and state rule.

But US military personnel are expected to adhere Islamic practices during Ramadan.
Stars and Stripes reported:




U.S. personnel accustomed to drinking their coffee on the drive to work will have to put that habit on hold for about a month. It’s one of a few lifestyle changes Americans will have to make during the holy month of Ramadan.

Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar. Officials expect Ramadan to begin at sunrise on Saturday, depending on when the new moon is sighted. The holy month lasts for approximately 30 days — until about July 28. For Muslims around the world, Ramadan is a month of fasting and devotion to God. Most Muslims fast from dawn to sunset, when families gather for Iftar — the meal that breaks the fast.

For the 8,200 U.S. personnel living here, and those serving throughout the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility — including servicemembers, civilian personnel, contractors and family members — the month may require changing some daily routines.

Businesses and government offices will reduce hours and most restaurants will be closed during daylight hours.

While not required to fast during Ramadan, in Bahrain, Americans can be fined or detained by local authorities for eating, drinking or smoking in public when off-base during daylight hours.

Navy officials are requiring U.S. personnel to dress more conservatively off-base during Ramadan. Although not a requirement by Bahraini authorities, the Navy is demanding that men wear long-sleeved shirts and women wear sleeved blouses that cover their elbows. Also, men must wear long trousers, and women should wear pants or skirts that cover the knees.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
loomixguy said:
What do you bet that OT has NO problem with it?

Problem is its a little misleading- first off they are still allowing the Gideons to furnish the Bibles to new troops- just are not allowing them to come on base and go troop to troop preaching while they hand them out...
Kind of like I've had to tell the Jehovah's a few times to leave...

And the title is a little misleading in that they should state right off the bat that this Ramadan issue applies to US personnel IN AN Islamic country.

That changes the context quite a bit from what is in the title of the article..
Or
what the original Stars and Stripes article says:
US personnel in Bahrain prepare for Ramadan



By Hendrick Simoes
Stars and Stripes

Published: June 26, 2014


MANAMA, Bahrain — U.S. personnel accustomed to drinking their coffee on the drive to work will have to put that habit on hold for about a month. It’s one of a few lifestyle changes Americans will have to make during the holy month of Ramadan.

Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar. Officials expect Ramadan to begin at sunrise on Saturday, depending on when the new moon is sighted. The holy month lasts for approximately 30 days — until about July 28. For Muslims around the world, Ramadan is a month of fasting and devotion to God. Most Muslims fast from dawn to sunset, when families gather for Iftar — the meal that breaks the fast.

For the 8,200 U.S. personnel living here, and those serving throughout the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility — including servicemembers, civilian personnel, contractors and family members — the month may require changing some daily routines.

Businesses and government offices will reduce hours and most restaurants will be closed during daylight hours.

While not required to fast during Ramadan, in Bahrain, Americans can be fined or detained by local authorities for eating, drinking or smoking in public when off-base during daylight hours.

Navy officials are requiring U.S. personnel to dress more conservatively off-base during Ramadan. Although not a requirement by Bahraini authorities, the Navy is demanding that men wear long-sleeved shirts and women wear sleeved blouses that cover their elbows. Also, men must wear long trousers, and women should wear pants or skirts that cover the knees.

Base cultural advisers have spent the last few weeks conducting Ramadan briefs to educate Americans about the holy month. Ali Hassan briefed about 150 personnel Tuesday about Islam, the lunar calendar and customs and traditions during Ramadan.

“It actually made me want to do a lot more research into the religion,” said Petty Officer 1st Class James Ramirez. He said the additional requirements during the month aren’t a big deal to him. “For such a small period of time, it’s a small sacrifice,” he said.

Other servicemembers echoed that sentiment
.

Hassan encouraged personnel to experience Iftar in a Ramadan tent, many of which are set up at various locations around Bahrain during the holy month and welcome non-Muslims.

“Make it a point to visit these tents while you’re here. You don’t know if you’ll ever come back to Bahrain in the future,” Hassan said during the brief.

While the tents offer a more traditional atmosphere, many restaurants put aside their regular menus during the month and serve special Iftar dinners.

Things to Know During Ramadan
◾ Eating, drinking, chewing and smoking in public are civil offenses in some Islamic countries.
◾ Men should wear long sleeves and pants. Women’s sleeves should extend below the elbow and pants or skirts should cover the knees.
◾ Avoid critical remarks about fasting or any religious practice.
◾ Most restaurants will be closed except those in 4- and 5-star hotels.
◾ Businesses alter and reduce hours during the day; some open at night until early morning hours.
◾ Arabs are good hosts and may offer you food or refreshments during daylight hours. Such offers should be declined.
◾ All consumption of alcohol by U.S. military personnel is prohibited at any off base public venue in the U.S. Navy 5th Fleet Area of Responsibility during Ramadan.
◾ It’s customary to say ‘Ramadan Kareem’ during Ramadan.

http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/us-personnel-in-bahrain-prepare-for-ramadan-1.290721
 

littlejoe

Well-known member
Folks, I'd like to offer a personal testimony of what's helped me in time of trouble. And this topic seems like a ripe opportunity to do so!

We all go through tough times in life. Maybe you’re struggling at work and filled with self-doubt, or perhaps the loss of a loved one has left you wondering if you’re strong enough to carry on. In those dark hours, it’s easy to fall victim to feelings of helplessness. But, fortunately, there’s hope, and it’s as close as your bookshelf.

I’ve found that when I need strength, I can always turn to the Bible or anything else that’s handy.

Several years ago, I was diagnosed with cancer. During my long battle to get well, I often took comfort in the Good Book or whatever other book was nearby. When chemotherapy left me too exhausted to even get out of bed, I would find myself picking up the Bible, if that’s what happened to be on my nightstand, and reading a favorite verse or two. But if there happened to be a copy of The Hunger Games there instead, a couple of chapters of that would also do the trick.

God is our strength, we read in Psalm 18, and as powerless as I felt during those agonizing months, I discovered courage in His wisdom when it was within arm’s reach, just as I did with Malcolm Gladwell’s Outliers and David Baldacci’s thriller Stone Cold.

Throughout my life, in fact, the Bible or some other reading material has been there when I needed it most. When I lost my job and worried about how I was going to scrape together next month’s rent in the middle of a brutal recession, I often relied on the Bible, A Tale Of Two Cities, In Cold Blood, The Audacity Of Hope, The Omnivore’s Dilemma, Seabiscuit, the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, a pocket road atlas of the Great Lakes region, The Oxford Companion To Ships And The Sea, or Fodor’s Montréal And Québec City 2009.

Anything lying around, to be honest.

Whenever I’ve felt stretched to my breaking point, I’ve found solace in turning to the New Testament, or just turning my head a bit until my gaze fell upon the framed cross-stitch on my wall that reads “Bless This Mess.” Or any calendar.

I distinctly remember one moment during my divorce. I’d just been sitting in my room all day with the shades drawn, crying and wondering if I’d be spending the rest of my life unloved and alone—if I died right there, who would even know? But in those bleakest hours, I was lifted from despair by my Bible and my 2006 Ford Focus owner’s handbook. According to Scripture, “the Lord your God is with you wherever you go” (Joshua 1:9), and according to my car’s manual: “The defroster turns off automatically after 14 minutes or when the ignition is turned to the OFF position. To manually turn off the defroster before 14 minutes have passed, push the control again.”

It’s hard to think of words more comforting than those.

We all wish there was no pain in life. But at least I know the ingredients list on a box of Grape-Nuts, the word of God, or anything at all written on someone’s T-shirt are there for me. I am so, so grateful that I can find peace any time I need it by writing a phone number or drawing a little star on the back of my hand and looking at it, or just by staring at the asphalt on my driveway. Yes, our demons rise up again and again, but we can answer them just as often by turning to the Bible or running a blender for hours on end until the motor burns out or throwing old clothes and hats into a river or doing anything else, without exception.

Try it, whatever it may be, and you might find an inner peace you’ve never felt before
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
littlejoe said:
Folks, I'd like to offer a personal testimony of what's helped me in time of trouble. And this topic seems like a ripe opportunity to do so!

We all go through tough times in life. Maybe you’re struggling at work and filled with self-doubt, or perhaps the loss of a loved one has left you wondering if you’re strong enough to carry on. In those dark hours, it’s easy to fall victim to feelings of helplessness. But, fortunately, there’s hope, and it’s as close as your bookshelf.

I’ve found that when I need strength, I can always turn to the Bible or anything else that’s handy.

Several years ago, I was diagnosed with cancer. During my long battle to get well, I often took comfort in the Good Book or whatever other book was nearby. When chemotherapy left me too exhausted to even get out of bed, I would find myself picking up the Bible, if that’s what happened to be on my nightstand, and reading a favorite verse or two. But if there happened to be a copy of The Hunger Games there instead, a couple of chapters of that would also do the trick.

God is our strength, we read in Psalm 18, and as powerless as I felt during those agonizing months, I discovered courage in His wisdom when it was within arm’s reach, just as I did with Malcolm Gladwell’s Outliers and David Baldacci’s thriller Stone Cold.

Throughout my life, in fact, the Bible or some other reading material has been there when I needed it most. When I lost my job and worried about how I was going to scrape together next month’s rent in the middle of a brutal recession, I often relied on the Bible, A Tale Of Two Cities, In Cold Blood, The Audacity Of Hope, The Omnivore’s Dilemma, Seabiscuit, the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, a pocket road atlas of the Great Lakes region, The Oxford Companion To Ships And The Sea, or Fodor’s Montréal And Québec City 2009.

Anything lying around, to be honest.

Whenever I’ve felt stretched to my breaking point, I’ve found solace in turning to the New Testament, or just turning my head a bit until my gaze fell upon the framed cross-stitch on my wall that reads “Bless This Mess.” Or any calendar.

I distinctly remember one moment during my divorce. I’d just been sitting in my room all day with the shades drawn, crying and wondering if I’d be spending the rest of my life unloved and alone—if I died right there, who would even know? But in those bleakest hours, I was lifted from despair by my Bible and my 2006 Ford Focus owner’s handbook. According to Scripture, “the Lord your God is with you wherever you go” (Joshua 1:9), and according to my car’s manual: “The defroster turns off automatically after 14 minutes or when the ignition is turned to the OFF position. To manually turn off the defroster before 14 minutes have passed, push the control again.”

It’s hard to think of words more comforting than those.

We all wish there was no pain in life. But at least I know the ingredients list on a box of Grape-Nuts, the word of God, or anything at all written on someone’s T-shirt are there for me. I am so, so grateful that I can find peace any time I need it by writing a phone number or drawing a little star on the back of my hand and looking at it, or just by staring at the asphalt on my driveway. Yes, our demons rise up again and again, but we can answer them just as often by turning to the Bible or running a blender for hours on end until the motor burns out or throwing old clothes and hats into a river or doing anything else, without exception.

Try it, whatever it may be, and you might find an inner peace you’ve never felt before

Too much information!
 

iwannabeacowboy

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
loomixguy said:
What do you bet that OT has NO problem with it?

Problem is its a little misleading- first off they are still allowing the Gideons to furnish the Bibles to new troops- just are not allowing them to come on base and go troop to troop preaching while they hand them out...
Kind of like I've had to tell the Jehovah's a few times to leave...

And the title is a little misleading in that they should state right off the bat that this Ramadan issue applies to US personnel IN AN Islamic country.

That changes the context quite a bit from what is in the title of the article..
Or
what the original Stars and Stripes article says:
US personnel in Bahrain prepare for Ramadan



By Hendrick Simoes
Stars and Stripes

Published: June 26, 2014


MANAMA, Bahrain — U.S. personnel accustomed to drinking their coffee on the drive to work will have to put that habit on hold for about a month. It’s one of a few lifestyle changes Americans will have to make during the holy month of Ramadan.

Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar. Officials expect Ramadan to begin at sunrise on Saturday, depending on when the new moon is sighted. The holy month lasts for approximately 30 days — until about July 28. For Muslims around the world, Ramadan is a month of fasting and devotion to God. Most Muslims fast from dawn to sunset, when families gather for Iftar — the meal that breaks the fast.

For the 8,200 U.S. personnel living here, and those serving throughout the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility — including servicemembers, civilian personnel, contractors and family members — the month may require changing some daily routines.

Businesses and government offices will reduce hours and most restaurants will be closed during daylight hours.

While not required to fast during Ramadan, in Bahrain, Americans can be fined or detained by local authorities for eating, drinking or smoking in public when off-base during daylight hours.

Navy officials are requiring U.S. personnel to dress more conservatively off-base during Ramadan. Although not a requirement by Bahraini authorities, the Navy is demanding that men wear long-sleeved shirts and women wear sleeved blouses that cover their elbows. Also, men must wear long trousers, and women should wear pants or skirts that cover the knees.

Base cultural advisers have spent the last few weeks conducting Ramadan briefs to educate Americans about the holy month. Ali Hassan briefed about 150 personnel Tuesday about Islam, the lunar calendar and customs and traditions during Ramadan.

“It actually made me want to do a lot more research into the religion,” said Petty Officer 1st Class James Ramirez. He said the additional requirements during the month aren’t a big deal to him. “For such a small period of time, it’s a small sacrifice,” he said.

Other servicemembers echoed that sentiment
.

Hassan encouraged personnel to experience Iftar in a Ramadan tent, many of which are set up at various locations around Bahrain during the holy month and welcome non-Muslims.

“Make it a point to visit these tents while you’re here. You don’t know if you’ll ever come back to Bahrain in the future,” Hassan said during the brief.

While the tents offer a more traditional atmosphere, many restaurants put aside their regular menus during the month and serve special Iftar dinners.

Things to Know During Ramadan
◾ Eating, drinking, chewing and smoking in public are civil offenses in some Islamic countries.
◾ Men should wear long sleeves and pants. Women’s sleeves should extend below the elbow and pants or skirts should cover the knees.
◾ Avoid critical remarks about fasting or any religious practice.
◾ Most restaurants will be closed except those in 4- and 5-star hotels.
◾ Businesses alter and reduce hours during the day; some open at night until early morning hours.
◾ Arabs are good hosts and may offer you food or refreshments during daylight hours. Such offers should be declined.
◾ All consumption of alcohol by U.S. military personnel is prohibited at any off base public venue in the U.S. Navy 5th Fleet Area of Responsibility during Ramadan.
◾ It’s customary to say ‘Ramadan Kareem’ during Ramadan.

http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/us-personnel-in-bahrain-prepare-for-ramadan-1.290721

Hey Moohamed A la carte,

The title is spot on, you really do try to twist things around huh?


Navy officials are requiring U.S. personnel to dress more conservatively off-base during Ramadan. Although not a requirement by Bahraini authorities, the Navy is demanding that men wear long-sleeved shirts and women wear sleeved blouses that cover their elbows. Also, men must wear long trousers, and women should wear pants or skirts that cover the knees.

Base cultural advisers have spent the last few weeks conducting Ramadan briefs to educate Americans about the holy month. Ali Hassan briefed about 150 personnel Tuesday about Islam, the lunar calendar and customs and traditions during Ramadan.

What do you not understand about the Navy required US personnel to dress differently during mooslum holidays but has never requested an altered attire or behavior during the the Jewish and Christian Holidays?

And by your own posting, you admit that Gideons aren't allowed to discuss religion on their own dime- because that is preaching, yet you are perfectly okay that the military pays individual to teach about Islam?

I'm really starting to understand what was meant by "they are blind to the truth."
 

Steve

Well-known member
http://www.theonion.com/articles/when-i-need-strength-i-turn-to-the-bible-or-whatev,36351/

and when you two need to defend your idiotic positions you turn to satire? ... :roll:
 

iwannabeacowboy

Well-known member
loomixguy said:
What do you bet that OT has NO problem with it?

0 To: no one can count that high or even attempt to keep up- which will be shortened to 0 To: for short, has not problem with many things and voted for them:

Obama ignoring the basis of the constitution, separation of powers- the punk writes about it constantly on here.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/28/obama-ignores-boehners-lawsuit-threat-ill-keep-tak/

He is okay with loss of health care.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/06/29/primary-care-shortage-health/11101265/#

He is okay with Central and South American children being exposed to sexual violence and HIV on their unaccompanied trip to the open border.
http://www.krgv.com/news/few-young-illegal-immigrants-tested-for-hiv/
I like how this guy talks about education. I'm pretty certain by the time the young girls either make or not to the open border, they've had an education that will haunt them a life time- no matter how short it is.

He is okay with the black employment numbers? He is okay with all their death tallies. Probably saves on abortions. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/06/29/violent-night-leaves-at-least-13-shot-in-all-five-boroughs/
21 shot in all through just the weekend. Wonder what the number would be if law abiding citizens carried in NY without all the red tape?


He is okay with Obama's race division?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR1ALCxfLT8

He is okay with cities failing.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-detroit-water-20140629-story.html#page=1


He is okay with destruction of the stability of the entire war by dismantling the post WWI break up of the caliphate. The division that lead to the most productive times know to the world throughout known history.
http://news.yahoo.com/al-qaida-breakaway-formally-declares-islamic-state-184155646.html

He is okay with the Federal government not performing one of their only listed jobs, securing the border.
http://nypost.com/2014/06/29/hundreds-of-chinese-teens-enter-u-s-through-central-america/


He is more than okay with anarchy, especially if it involves progressives trashing the Constitution.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/27/Amnesty-Advocates-Storm-Congress-over-DACA-Come-Take-It


He is more than okay with Christians dying at the hands of mooselums because they share the same God?
http://news.yahoo.com/gunmen-torch-churches-kill-scores-nigeria-142926808.html


And when 0To:'s plans all fall apart, he believes that doubling down on stupid will make it better, or tripling down by changing out the head puppet.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
iwannabeacowboy said:
Oldtimer said:
loomixguy said:
What do you bet that OT has NO problem with it?

Problem is its a little misleading- first off they are still allowing the Gideons to furnish the Bibles to new troops- just are not allowing them to come on base and go troop to troop preaching while they hand them out...
Kind of like I've had to tell the Jehovah's a few times to leave...

And the title is a little misleading in that they should state right off the bat that this Ramadan issue applies to US personnel IN AN Islamic country.

That changes the context quite a bit from what is in the title of the article..
Or
what the original Stars and Stripes article says:
US personnel in Bahrain prepare for Ramadan



By Hendrick Simoes
Stars and Stripes

Published: June 26, 2014


MANAMA, Bahrain — U.S. personnel accustomed to drinking their coffee on the drive to work will have to put that habit on hold for about a month. It’s one of a few lifestyle changes Americans will have to make during the holy month of Ramadan.

Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar. Officials expect Ramadan to begin at sunrise on Saturday, depending on when the new moon is sighted. The holy month lasts for approximately 30 days — until about July 28. For Muslims around the world, Ramadan is a month of fasting and devotion to God. Most Muslims fast from dawn to sunset, when families gather for Iftar — the meal that breaks the fast.

For the 8,200 U.S. personnel living here, and those serving throughout the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility — including servicemembers, civilian personnel, contractors and family members — the month may require changing some daily routines.

Businesses and government offices will reduce hours and most restaurants will be closed during daylight hours.

While not required to fast during Ramadan, in Bahrain, Americans can be fined or detained by local authorities for eating, drinking or smoking in public when off-base during daylight hours.

Navy officials are requiring U.S. personnel to dress more conservatively off-base during Ramadan. Although not a requirement by Bahraini authorities, the Navy is demanding that men wear long-sleeved shirts and women wear sleeved blouses that cover their elbows. Also, men must wear long trousers, and women should wear pants or skirts that cover the knees.

Base cultural advisers have spent the last few weeks conducting Ramadan briefs to educate Americans about the holy month. Ali Hassan briefed about 150 personnel Tuesday about Islam, the lunar calendar and customs and traditions during Ramadan.

“It actually made me want to do a lot more research into the religion,” said Petty Officer 1st Class James Ramirez. He said the additional requirements during the month aren’t a big deal to him. “For such a small period of time, it’s a small sacrifice,” he said.

Other servicemembers echoed that sentiment
.

Hassan encouraged personnel to experience Iftar in a Ramadan tent, many of which are set up at various locations around Bahrain during the holy month and welcome non-Muslims.

“Make it a point to visit these tents while you’re here. You don’t know if you’ll ever come back to Bahrain in the future,” Hassan said during the brief.

While the tents offer a more traditional atmosphere, many restaurants put aside their regular menus during the month and serve special Iftar dinners.

Things to Know During Ramadan
◾ Eating, drinking, chewing and smoking in public are civil offenses in some Islamic countries.
◾ Men should wear long sleeves and pants. Women’s sleeves should extend below the elbow and pants or skirts should cover the knees.
◾ Avoid critical remarks about fasting or any religious practice.
◾ Most restaurants will be closed except those in 4- and 5-star hotels.
◾ Businesses alter and reduce hours during the day; some open at night until early morning hours.
◾ Arabs are good hosts and may offer you food or refreshments during daylight hours. Such offers should be declined.
◾ All consumption of alcohol by U.S. military personnel is prohibited at any off base public venue in the U.S. Navy 5th Fleet Area of Responsibility during Ramadan.
◾ It’s customary to say ‘Ramadan Kareem’ during Ramadan.

http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/us-personnel-in-bahrain-prepare-for-ramadan-1.290721

Hey Moohamed A la carte,

The title is spot on, you really do try to twist things around huh?


Navy officials are requiring U.S. personnel to dress more conservatively off-base during Ramadan. Although not a requirement by Bahraini authorities, the Navy is demanding that men wear long-sleeved shirts and women wear sleeved blouses that cover their elbows. Also, men must wear long trousers, and women should wear pants or skirts that cover the knees.

Base cultural advisers have spent the last few weeks conducting Ramadan briefs to educate Americans about the holy month. Ali Hassan briefed about 150 personnel Tuesday about Islam, the lunar calendar and customs and traditions during Ramadan.

What do you not understand about the Navy required US personnel to dress differently during mooslum holidays but has never requested an altered attire or behavior during the the Jewish and Christian Holidays?

And by your own posting, you admit that Gideons aren't allowed to discuss religion on their own dime- because that is preaching, yet you are perfectly okay that the military pays individual to teach about Islam?

I'm really starting to understand what was meant by "they are blind to the truth."

What clothing attire changes does the Jewish or Christian Holidays call for ? We all supposed to wear Santa hats :???:

And seeing the intelligence of your posts- and your inability to want to relate to the foreign country that we are in's customs -- I'm beginning to see why so many folks around the world see Americans as arrogant ignoramus's ...

You lack of tolerance of others best fits the description "the Ugly American"...



Fighting the Stigma of the “Stupid” American Tourist

Posted on April 17, 2009


Like it or not, Americans have made a reputation for themselves overseas. Stupid, ignorant, or downright lazy are descriptions applied to American travelers from overseas citizens. The stereotype has become so prevalent that even President Obama addressed the issue in a early-2009 visit to Istanbul. CNN article “Tourists have to try to combat the ‘ugly American’” reports Obama as saying,
“Sometimes [stereotypes] suggest that America has become selfish and crass, or that we don’t care about the world beyond us. And I’m here to tell you that that’s not the country that I know and it’s not the country that I love.”

Even with the president’s good word, Americans have a lot to do to overcome this overseas stereotype. Travel experts Chris Baker and Beth Whitman give 5 handy tips for traveling abroad in the CNN article:
◾1) Research the area and its culture before you travel to your destination. Read guidebooks to learn about the region.
◾2) Learn some basic words in the language of the region you are traveling to. Don’t expect everyone to speak English.
◾3) Travel with a desire to experience the local cuisine. Don’t expect to get a hamburger.
◾4) Don’t flash around money or expensive items like cell phones and cameras.
◾5) Try to really experience the culture. You are less likely to offend if you understand.
 

iwannabeacowboy

Well-known member
Let me spell this out real slow so you might have a chance of getting it.


M..... i....... l....... i..... t....... a...... r....... y......


You are really going to try to post that ignorant BS off as a basis for your answer? Tourist? Tourist? Oh my gosh!

Our military are not tourists and they aren't sent around the world with guns, tanks and planes risking their lives to improve the impression of the American tourist.....

It's so asinine that I can't even laugh because I have so much more respect of the people that have given their lives for my freedom.

What do you do on Memorial Day, walk up and kick honorable veterans in the nutts (out of jealousy) and piss on their graves?

Do yourself and any living relative a favor, tip the bottle all the way up so you can pass out already.
 

Mike

Well-known member
There is no hope for OT. He is as stupid as anyone on God's green earth.

He really should be pitied, but I can't do it. His forces his mouth to overload his mind. :roll:
 
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Anonymous

Guest
iwannabeacowboy said:
Let me spell this out real slow so you might have a chance of getting it.


M..... i....... l....... i..... t....... a...... r....... y......


You are really going to try to post that ignorant BS off as a basis for your answer? Tourist? Tourist? Oh my gosh!

Our military are not tourists and they aren't sent around the world with guns, tanks and planes risking their lives to improve the impression of the American tourist.....

It's so asinine that I can't even laugh because I have so much more respect of the people that have given their lives for my freedom.

What do you do on Memorial Day, walk up and kick honorable veterans in the nutts (out of jealousy) and p*** on their graves?

Do yourself and any living relative a favor, tip the bottle all the way up so you can pass out already.


BUT--- when they are off base they are expected to abide by the laws of and respect the customs and culture of the country they are within... And Islam is the official religion of the country of Bahrain...

We are not at war with Bahrain- we are only there because of their permission...

You been listening to Dubya too much-- "we'll just invade them thar dum furrin folks and make them think like us "... :roll: :wink: :p :lol:
 

Mike

Well-known member
Although not a requirement by Bahraini authorities, the Navy is demanding that men wear long-sleeved shirts and women wear sleeved blouses that cover their elbows. Also, men must wear long trousers, and women should wear pants or skirts that cover the knees.

Looks like Buckwheat is demanding clothing not required by Bahrain officials.

OT. Are you as stupid as you seem? :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Mike said:
Although not a requirement by Bahraini authorities, the Navy is demanding that men wear long-sleeved shirts and women wear sleeved blouses that cover their elbows. Also, men must wear long trousers, and women should wear pants or skirts that cover the knees.

Looks like Buckwheat is demanding clothing not required by Bahrain officials.

OT. Are you as stupid as you seem? :roll:

and, not only in Bahrain
 

littlejoe

Well-known member
Faster horses said:
littlejoe said:
Folks, I'd like to offer a personal testimony of what's helped me in time of trouble. And this topic seems like a ripe opportunity to do so!

We all go through tough times in life. Maybe you’re struggling at work and filled with self-doubt, or perhaps the loss of a loved one has left you wondering if you’re strong enough to carry on. In those dark hours, it’s easy to fall victim to feelings of helplessness. But, fortunately, there’s hope, and it’s as close as your bookshelf.

I’ve found that when I need strength, I can always turn to the Bible or anything else that’s handy.

Several years ago, I was diagnosed with cancer. During my long battle to get well, I often took comfort in the Good Book or whatever other book was nearby. When chemotherapy left me too exhausted to even get out of bed, I would find myself picking up the Bible, if that’s what happened to be on my nightstand, and reading a favorite verse or two. But if there happened to be a copy of The Hunger Games there instead, a couple of chapters of that would also do the trick.

God is our strength, we read in Psalm 18, and as powerless as I felt during those agonizing months, I discovered courage in His wisdom when it was within arm’s reach, just as I did with Malcolm Gladwell’s Outliers and David Baldacci’s thriller Stone Cold.

Throughout my life, in fact, the Bible or some other reading material has been there when I needed it most. When I lost my job and worried about how I was going to scrape together next month’s rent in the middle of a brutal recession, I often relied on the Bible, A Tale Of Two Cities, In Cold Blood, The Audacity Of Hope, The Omnivore’s Dilemma, Seabiscuit, the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, a pocket road atlas of the Great Lakes region, The Oxford Companion To Ships And The Sea, or Fodor’s Montréal And Québec City 2009.

Anything lying around, to be honest.

Whenever I’ve felt stretched to my breaking point, I’ve found solace in turning to the New Testament, or just turning my head a bit until my gaze fell upon the framed cross-stitch on my wall that reads “Bless This Mess.” Or any calendar.

I distinctly remember one moment during my divorce. I’d just been sitting in my room all day with the shades drawn, crying and wondering if I’d be spending the rest of my life unloved and alone—if I died right there, who would even know? But in those bleakest hours, I was lifted from despair by my Bible and my 2006 Ford Focus owner’s handbook. According to Scripture, “the Lord your God is with you wherever you go” (Joshua 1:9), and according to my car’s manual: “The defroster turns off automatically after 14 minutes or when the ignition is turned to the OFF position. To manually turn off the defroster before 14 minutes have passed, push the control again.”

It’s hard to think of words more comforting than those.

We all wish there was no pain in life. But at least I know the ingredients list on a box of Grape-Nuts, the word of God, or anything at all written on someone’s T-shirt are there for me. I am so, so grateful that I can find peace any time I need it by writing a phone number or drawing a little star on the back of my hand and looking at it, or just by staring at the asphalt on my driveway. Yes, our demons rise up again and again, but we can answer them just as often by turning to the Bible or running a blender for hours on end until the motor burns out or throwing old clothes and hats into a river or doing anything else, without exception.

Try it, whatever it may be, and you might find an inner peace you’ve never felt before

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Faster, suggest you not try to read all at once. Maybe study a bit, take a nap. Like the Bible--read a few verses, maybe absorb and meditate. Or make some jam. Some of these other characters, it's just a chance for them to absorb some class and education from somebody who does more than call names and gang up on people.
 

TexasBred

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Oldtimer said:
And the title is a little misleading in that they should state right off the bat that this Ramadan issue applies to US personnel IN AN Islamic country.

Why should this make one rats azz of difference?? Did everyone become Lutheranism when in Germany or followers of Buddha while in Viet Nam?? Not on your life asshole. Most carried at least a "New Testament".
 
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TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
And the title is a little misleading in that they should state right off the bat that this Ramadan issue applies to US personnel IN AN Islamic country.

Why should this make one rats azz of difference?? Did everyone become Lutheranism when in Germany or followers of Buddha while in Viet Nam?? Not on your life asshole. Most carried at least a "New Testament".

You're comparing apples to oranges.. In Vietnam and Germany we were at war- or in the case of Germany we were also the conquering occupation forces...

We are not at war with Bahrain... We are there as their quests.. They have allowed us to put our bases there and we keep those agreements at their country's pleasure...
Neither are we at war with any of the other countries in the Central Command except Afghanistan... Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, UAM, Turkey, etc. who all allow us to to keep bases or military personnel stationed there... But we do so at their pleasure... We are not there as conquerors - we are there as guests... The military has long expected folks to adhere to and respect the culture and laws of those countries when off base and in the public... And its long been a practice (at least 40 years) that when someone (military or government contract) is assigned to a foreign country or debarks there- that they are briefed in the customs and laws of the country...

This statement from Stars and Stripes pretty well sums up how excited those it effected got:
“It actually made me want to do a lot more research into the religion,” said Petty Officer 1st Class James Ramirez. He said the additional requirements during the month aren’t a big deal to him. “For such a small period of time, it’s a small sacrifice,” he said.

Other servicemembers echoed that sentiment.

Its actually refreshing to hear these young folks talk of wanting to learn something of other cultures and becoming better educated after listening to all the old head in the sand cultists on this site.... :wink: :lol:

 

TexasBred

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All you know about the military is what you've heard or read. I guess we can look forward to all US forces in every country to also attend Catholic Mass and study the catechism during lent next year. (Only out of respect of course).
 

garn

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TexasBred said:
All you know about the military is what you've heard or read. I guess we can look forward to all US forces in every country to also attend Catholic Mass and study the catechism during lent next year. (Only out of respect of course).

LOL, as a practicing Catholic, I was thinking the same thing. Come Lent next year, all Muslims on US military bases world wide must practice fasting on Ash Wednesday & Good Friday, alms giving, prayer and abstain from eating meat on Friday's.
 
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