"OCCUPY" Wall Street Demands

[Mike]

Please list the numbers that you agree with in a post.

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

 

[ANGUS327]

They all look good!! I wonder where the money would come from??

 

[Soapweed]

None of the above.

 

[Faster horses]

ZERO

...just like Obama...

 

[MsSage]

isnt one and three the same thing?
just saying..................
Hey at least they finaly got "demands" out LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[Steve]

Are they really that stupid?

 

[Texan]

I'm sure Oldtimer, TSR and Tex would love to be up there occupying Wall Street right along with those goofy neohippies. They'd fit right in.

 

[Mike]

Are they really that stupid?

All of the "Unions" are represented there. What do you think? :lol:

 

[Steve]

The protest was originally called for by the Canadian activist[6] group Adbusters;

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[Steve]

Are they really that stupid?

All of the "Unions" are represented there. What do you think? :lol:

the unions happiest day will come when the last American corporation is driven from our shores.. and then they can sit at home and collect unemployment until they retire..

stupid liberals...

 

[MsSage]

I have no clue how this got posted a second time and almost an hour later .....................weird LOL

I was looking for the charges they also want filed ...and now I cant find the list.

 

[hypocritexposer]

The protests are racist for not including enough blacks....

Occupy Wall Street Doesn't Adequately Represent Struggling Black Population, Experts Say

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/occupy-wall-street-black-population_n_998722.html

 

[MsSage]

I love this quote from The Washington Times

Quite a list of Marxist "demands", indeed. The real question here is if these demands are not met, then what?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...-occupy-wall-street-protesters-post-manifest/

 

[Soapweed]

Please list the numbers that you agree with in a post.

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

If these are the demands of modern American society, it is no wonder the country is in big trouble and going to heck in a hand basket on a fast downhill run. As a responsible person, I would feel plumb guilty desiring any of these so-called "demands." Each of these demands is all about what America can do for individual people, and nothing about individual people contributing anything back to keep America up and running. America used to be the land of opportunity. It has always been a great country where anyone with ambition, ingenuity, and perserverence could succeed. Now, with all the socialistic communistic Liberal agendas, our once-great economic system of free enterprise can barely function.

John F. Kennedy, a Democrat who was elected our president in 1960, had a lot better handle on the situation than Democrats of today. A couple of his quotations at the time were: "My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." and "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." This is a far cry from the "gimme gimme" cry baby demands of the Democrats of today.

 

[Mike]

Soapweed,

I totally agree.

The problem is Wealth Envy. You know, the anti-capitalist ideology that OT & Tex are perpetually touting as the answer to our problems.................

 

[Soapweed]

Soapweed,

I totally agree.

The problem is Wealth Envy. You know, the anti-capitalist ideology that OT & Tex are perpetually touting as the answer to our problems.................

The only "demand" that has any merit whatsoever is number 10: "Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system."

I would be interested to hear others' views on this issue, pro or con.

 

[flyingS]

Did whom ever wrote this actually read it. Demand 3 and 9 are enough to guarantee failure in any situation. If you guarantee wages and open up borders that basically means that rather than boosting our own economy we would boost Mexico's as well as every other non thriving country in the world. Meanwhile the free loading society that we have created would thrive and grow. Basically there answer is to throw the ideas that founded this country out the window and create a get something for nothing economy.

 

[Mike]

Arianna Huffington, president and editor-in-chief of AOL Huffington Post Media Group, has become a full-on supporter of the Occupy Wall Street protests — injecting her endorsement of the demonstrations into her media outlets' coverage of the events in lower Manhattan.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/07/aol-news-boss-takes-sides-in-wall-street-protest/#ixzz1a6pKVdFF

 

[Clarencen]

At least now we have some idea of where they stand. I'll stick with the Tea Party crowd. I believe in taxes, but I want my tax dollars to be spent where it will continue to make our people productive.
Perhaps they have some points to think about, but in anything we do there are rules and principles that govern the results. There are set rules in economics, society, science, government and nature. We can not compromise on any of them. In the past 50 years we have tried to do that, now we can see what we have got.

The more we demand from the government the more unrealistic rules we will have to contend with.

For now lets just look at #2. They are talking about socialized medicine, the government pays all, No personal responcability, I don't like to pay the bills for people who have medical problems caused by drug use, alcohol or tobacco.

 

[MsSage]

Soapweed,

I totally agree.

The problem is Wealth Envy. You know, the anti-capitalist ideology that OT & Tex are perpetually touting as the answer to our problems.................

The only "demand" that has any merit whatsoever is number 10: "Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system."

I would be interested to hear others' views on this issue, pro or con.

That is already done and 90% if not almost 98% are computer ballots, which are tamper proof. In every city there are representatives from each candidate watching the count.

Counting the Votes on Election Day
What happens to your ballot after the polls close?
By Robert Longley, About.com Guide
.Filed In:The Political System
Well, it's finally Election Day and it looks like we'll be going to the polls in record numbers. But after the last voter has pulled the handle, punched the card or touched the screen, how will they count all those votes and how do they make sure the votes are counted accurately and fairly?
Ballot boxes are sealed and sent to be counting facility
As soon as the last voter has voted, the election judge at each polling place sends the sealed ballot boxes to a central vote counting facility. This is usually a government office, like a city hall or county courthouse. Where computerized voting machines are used, the election judge will send the media on which the votes are recorded to the counting facility. The ballot boxes or computer media are usually transported to the counting facility by sworn law enforcement officers.

Ballots arrive at the counting facility
At the central counting facility, certified observers from the political parties or candidates watch the actual vote counting to make sure the count is fair.

How paper ballots are handled
In areas where paper ballots are still used, election officials manually read each ballot and add up the number of votes in each race. Sometimes two or more election officials will read each ballot to ensure accuracy. Since these ballots are filled out manually, it can sometimes be unclear how the voter intended to vote. In these cases, the election judge either decides how the voter intended to vote, or declares that the voter's vote for that race will not be counted. The most common problem with manual vote counting is, of course, human error.

How punch card ballots are handled
Where punch card ballots are used, election officials open each ballot box, manually count the number of ballots cast and run the ballots through a mechanical punch card reader. Software in the card reader records the votes in each race and prints out totals. If the total number ballot cards read by the card reader does not match the manual count, the election judge can order the ballots recounted. Most problems occur when the ballot cards stick together while being run through the card reader, the reader malfunctions or the ballot has been damaged by the voter. In extreme cases, the election judge can order the ballots to be read manually. It was punch card ballots and their infamous "hanging chads" that lead to the controversial vote count in Florida during the 2000 presidential election.

How computerized ballots are handled
With the newer, fully computerized voting systems, including optical scan and direct recording electronic systems, the vote totals may be transmitted automatically to the central counting facility. In some cases, these devices record their votes on removable media, such as hard disks or cassettes, which are transported to the central counting facility for counting.

Lost or damaged ballots and other mistakes
You should know that in almost all elections, some votes will be lost or incorrectly counted due to voter errors, voting equipment malfunctions, or errors on the part of election officials. From local elections to presidential elections, officials are constantly working to improve the voting process, with the goal of making sure that every vote is counted and counted correctly.

About vote recounts
Whenever the results of an election are very close, or problems have occurred with the voting equipment, a recount of the votes will often be demanded by one or more of the candidates. Some state laws call for mandatory recounts in any close election. The recounts may be done by a manual hand-count of ballots or by the same type of machines used to make the original count. Yes, recounts do sometimes change the outcome of an election.

Of course, there remains one absolutely certain way to make sure your vote -- your voice -- will NOT be counted. Don't vote.