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loomixguy

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The Hastings Tribune reported today in the "News in Brief" that "Insane" Jane Kleeb, main opponent of the Keystone pipeline in Nebraska, and wife of former Democrat contender for Congress Scott Kleeb, had her purse stolen from her vee-hickle around the 1300 block & Burlington Ave. No word on if the car was locked or not.

That would be in the area of a gas station with a liquor store, pizza joint, Chinese food, and Mexican food place all in one, or at Hastings High School.

Poor Jane. I hope she didn't have to go out and purchase new birth control pills at Wal Mart....... :roll:
 

TSR

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At the bottom of your posts you say that seal Team 6 took out one threat. I simply asked you a question about the incident.
 

Steve

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Did Seal Team 6 act w/o the president's authorization???

The president would not necessarily "authorize" any specific operation..

in fact it would be illegal to authorize the mission as presented in the media.. it would have been just a mission to capture/kill a high value target.. without a specific legal name attached.

the prep and lead-up would be done by subordinates under existing standing orders..

while I doubt this mission was within the scope of normal anti-terrorist operations..one must consider that those operations have a broad scope.. and a jag officer could have been called in to make a legal decision to see if it was "within" the scope of existing orders.. and given it a go..

in most cases,, (but not all ),.. Obama would have been briefed and could then pull the mission or abort it.. as he did several times over several months leading up to the actual mission..
 

TSR

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hopalong said:
But why should he get credit for doing the job TSR???

If the mission had been a failure would you have given him credit for that Hopalong??? A yes or no will do.
 

hopalong

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TSR said:
hopalong said:
But why should he get credit for doing the job TSR???

If the mission had been a failure would you have given him credit for that Hopalong??? A yes or no will do.

Sure since he takes the the credit for something he had little to do with!!!!
Would you still be on your knees for him then???
 

TSR

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hopalong said:
TSR said:
hopalong said:
But why should he get credit for doing the job TSR???

If the mission had been a failure would you have given him credit for that Hopalong??? A yes or no will do.

Sure since he takes the the credit for something he had little to do with!!!!
Would you still be on your knees for him then???

I take it that's a yes. Well if he had so little to do with the successful mission, how could you discredit him if the mission had been unsuccessful??? After all, according to your logic he would have had little to do with it.
 

hopalong

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TSR said:
hopalong said:
TSR said:
If the mission had been a failure would you have given him credit for that Hopalong??? A yes or no will do.

Sure since he takes the the credit for something he had little to do with!!!!
Would you still be on your knees for him then???

I take it that's a yes. Well if he had so little to do with the successful mission, how could you discredit him if the mission had been unsuccessful??? After all, according to your logic he would have had little to do with it.

You are the one giving him all the credit :D :D
 

Steve

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I take it that's a yes. Well if he had so little to do with the successful mission, how could you discredit him if the mission had been unsuccessful??? After all, according to your logic he would have had little to do with it.

the credit or blame really depends on how much Obama had influence on the operation... which we will never know...

we know if it went badly he could lose his job.. whereas those nameless Seals on the ground could lose their life...

so the blame and credit should be apportioned as well..

if it goes good as it did.. then everyone including the Seals would have part of the credit.. but the seals risked the most...

if it goes bad.. then the Seals would have already paid a stiff price for it.. so why add the blame to them as well?


a person with good leadership skills artfully takes the blame.. and makes sure the credit goes to those who worked to make it happen..
 
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Steve said:
I take it that's a yes. Well if he had so little to do with the successful mission, how could you discredit him if the mission had been unsuccessful??? After all, according to your logic he would have had little to do with it.

the credit or blame really depends on how much Obama had influence on the operation... which we will never know...

we know if it went badly he could lose his job.. whereas those nameless Seals on the ground could lose their life...

so the blame and credit should be apportioned as well..

if it goes good as it did.. then everyone including the Seals would have part of the credit.. but the seals risked the most...

if it goes bad.. then the Seals would have already paid a stiff price for it.. so why add the blame to them as well?


a person with good leadership skills artfully takes the blame.. and makes sure the credit goes to those who worked to make it happen..


Are you telling me that as an exmilitary man- you don't recognize the long standing rule----- that the top commander (up thru the Commander in Chief) is responsible for what happens on his watch :???:

This occurred on Obamas watch-- and militarily and especially in working out the political details and giving the authorization for the troops to take out Al Quaeda leadership (without invading more soverign nations and endebting us to Trillions $ in debt) Obama has been heads above GW or Clinton.......
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
I take it that's a yes. Well if he had so little to do with the successful mission, how could you discredit him if the mission had been unsuccessful??? After all, according to your logic he would have had little to do with it.

the credit or blame really depends on how much Obama had influence on the operation... which we will never know...

we know if it went badly he could lose his job.. whereas those nameless Seals on the ground could lose their life...

so the blame and credit should be apportioned as well..

if it goes good as it did.. then everyone including the Seals would have part of the credit.. but the seals risked the most...

if it goes bad.. then the Seals would have already paid a stiff price for it.. so why add the blame to them as well?


a person with good leadership skills artfully takes the blame.. and makes sure the credit goes to those who worked to make it happen..


Are you telling me that as an exmilitary man- you don't recognize the long standing rule----- that the top commander (up thru the Commander in Chief) is responsible for what happens on his watch :???:

all I can say is you either can't read or you can't comprehend what you read.. :?

but for the sake of your point... I will repeat what I wrote. and elaborate..

so the blame and credit should be apportioned as well..

a person with good leadership skills artfully takes the blame.. and makes sure the credit goes to those who worked to make it happen..

a real commander knows who's life is on the line..

and make sure the due credit is given to those men who put it all on the line when a mission goes as planned.

and will accept responsibility when it goes bad.. such as in Libya last week..


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