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Faster horses

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hypocritexposer said:
Mike said:
hypocritexposer said:
Mike, it's not the Saudis, or OPEC, that has upped production. Their volume has remained the same for years.

It is increased US production and a slowed global economy that is lowering the price.

I know that. But the Saudi's refusing to cut shipping is helping to maintain low prices. They know their production costs are lower than ours.

In Alberta we are kinda wishing the US would produce less :wink:

I don't think it is OPEC's responsibility to look after the US' interests. The US should adapt...maybe export, allow for oil with foreign content to be exported etc.

It's kinda funny watching all the "NIMBYs" worried about Canadian oil being transported through the XL to be exported...seeing as it would not be eligible for export if it is mixed with US oil, on the way to the Gulf.

A whole lot of people don't know that the individual states have negotiated for Keystone XL to carry a % of US oil. I encounter this a lot.
 

mrj

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Thanks for point out that there will be both Canadian and US oil going through the pipeline, FH. That seems to be a rather well hidden idea! I've read % Bakken oil.

I have also read that the oils will NOT be co-mingled, but will have a separation by pumping water between the two. Anyone know more about that? Makes sense, since oil and water don't mix well or easily, do they?

The propaganda against both Canadian oil, and Keystone Pipeline is really disgusting, both for it's foolishness and the vitriolic way false information is spewed.

Whether the Canadian oil is used in the USA, or exported, it will increase world oil supply! It will provide US jobs! It will enhance trade with a reliable partner, Canada!

It may even improve rail shipment of northern grown grains if Mr. Buffett ships less oil out of the area, freeing up more engines for other uses.

mrj
 

Whitewing

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mrj said:
I have also read that the oils will NOT be co-mingled, but will have a separation by pumping water between the two. Anyone know more about that? Makes sense, since oil and water don't mix well or easily, do they?

The lighter the oil the less chance there is for mixing, the heavier the oil, the more easily it makes an 'emulsion' with the oil.....which is usually difficult to break or separate. I know nothing about the API gravity of baaken oil though from what I've heard, the Canadian stuff is really heavy (low API).

I'm no pipeline expert though I do know a thing or two about hydrocarbon fluid properities. Pumping a slug of water between two sets of oil in a pipeline sounds plausible, but also risky and costly. The guy on the other end who receives this slug of water can't simply dump it on the ground, it's got to be processed to some mimimum ppm level of hydrocarbon content.

I'd sure like a link to whatever source you have for that story.
 

mrj

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Sorry for not having a clear recall of where I read that. I read where or whenever, or whatever I can. It may have been the Rapid City Journal, most likely, and think it was between Thanksgiving and Christmas, maybe closer to Christmas. Hectic as that time frame was here, I hope it was something I read, and not something heard on radio! I think there is more bs spouted on radio against that pipeline in this area, often by rabidly anti-pipeline individuals who seem to have little interest in facts, preferring their own 'knowledge'.

Maybe a source for info would be the Keystone XL website.

Sorry to not be more helpful.

mrj
 

Larrry

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About Pigs
Debris removal after pipeline pig cleaning run (courtesy of Pigtek Ltd) Pipeline pigs are devices that are inserted into and travel throughout the length of a pipeline driven by a product flow. They were originally developed to remove deposits which could obstruct or retard flow through a pipeline. Today pigs are used during all phases in the life of a pipeline for many different reasons.

Although each pipeline has its own set of characteristics which affect how and why pigging is used, there are basically three reasons to pig a pipeline:

To batch or separate dissimilar products;
For displacement purposes;
For internal inspection.

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