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OK to skip Congress on debt ceiling

hypocritexposer

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Reid to Obama: OK to skip Congress on debt ceiling

By MANU RAJU and JOHN BRESNAHAN | 1/11/13 2:47 PM EST

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and other top Democrats are putting new pressure on the White House to circumvent Congress to boost the nation’s debt ceiling if no bipartisan agreement can be reached.

In a strongly worded letter to President Barack Obama obtained by POLITICO, Reid and his leadership team argue that failing to raise the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling would threaten the full faith and credit of the United States. Reid and Sens. Dick Durbin, Chuck Schumer and Patty Murray asserted that Obama “must make clear that you will never allow our nation’s economy and reputation to be held hostage.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/reid-to-obama-ok-to-skip-congress-on-debt-ceiling-86071.html#ixzz2HhsWN3mk



Three false arguments, pushed hard by the Obama administration and accepted on faith by the media and much of the political establishment, must be laid to rest if the American people are to understand the issues at stake in the federal "debt ceiling" debate. The first is that Congress's failure to raise the debt ceiling—the amount of money the federal government is authorized to borrow at any given time—will cause a default on the national debt. The second is that federal entitlement programs are constitutionally protected from spending cuts. The third is that the president can raise the debt ceiling on his own authority.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324081704578232080227662110.html#articleTabs%3Darticle
 

MoGal

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Hypo did you listen to the Lindsey Williams 12/04/12 and he listed ten things.... and one of them, over the next four years, is to "suspend" the debt ceiling.... I take it to mean they just are going to spend into oblivion...

stop and think about it, you can't have Americans wanting to keep the American dollar if your goal is a north american union and the "amero" currency (and this doesn't have In God We Trust on it) and you can't have a global currency if the American people won't let go of the dollar.... so you spend into oblivion so that its not worth anything.

Hegelian Dialect... people will be begging for a solution and of course they have the solution to the problem they created......
 

hypocritexposer

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yes I did listen to it and I've believed for quite some time that the US will just keep spending, default on her obligations and then just come up with a new currency.
 

Whitewing

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Just one more example of the executive branch running roughshod over the constitution with the willing help of donks.

But fear not, OT will soon show up and whine about the dangers of teabaggers.
 

hypocritexposer

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"If they raise the debt limit without any meaningful spending [cuts], you're going to get a downgrade," said Frank Fantozzi, chief executive of Planned Financial Services. "I really think the ratings agencies realize that ... the direction we're going in is unsustainable."
 

MoGal

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How come mainstream media, economists, anybody and everybody are so quiet about this?? On Sept. 13, 2012 Bernanke announced the federal reserve will be purchasing (money made out of thin air, aka monopoly money) $40 billion dollars of mortgage backed securities and the banks who receive this money have to invest it in the derivatives market..... then when the dollar is inflated and you can't pay the mortgage .... the federal reserve will own your place..... such a ponzi scheme and will make millions of americans destitute...... how evil is that???

this just blows me away that no one, and I mean no one is talking about it...
I know everyone can't be stupid ..... hopefully some of you all can listen to this and tell me I have the wrong interpretation.....

http://wm.thegospel.com/pclub/2012/october/TPC_10_24_Williams_Derivatives_Destroying_Mortgages_1.mp3

http://wm.thegospel.com/pclub/2012/october/TPC_10_26_Williams_How_The_Elite_Will_Kill_the_Dollar_3.mp3

The dollar is not being used by Japan, China, Russia, Germany, India, Iran and BRIC.... they have all made agreements with each other to trade with each other in their own currency....

No one is talking about any of this stuff..... and why???

I always figured when other countries get away from the dollar they know that America isn't far behind to becoming a north american union and a new currency.... in about 15 to 24 months....
 

hypocritexposer

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MoGal said:
How come mainstream media, economists, anybody and everybody are so quiet about this??


:lol: :lol:


Have you not heard...conspiracy theories are bad. And it's the Governmnet that now determines what is, or is not, a conspiracy theory.

It used to be that law enforcement used to investigate when 2 or more people got together to perpetuate a crime. Now the governmnet demonizes you for calling attention to such crimes, because most often, they are the ones profiting from them.


Won't be long and the Government, under obama, will have you locked away for mentioning the NAFTA superhighway conspiracy theory, like OT used to routinely mention.


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I bet when OT was a Sheriff, he even investigated crimes that were conspired by 2 or more people. But now being a liberal, he would like to change the definition of "conspiracy theory", to shut those up that don't agree with the corruption that his "dear leader" and the Golobization/NWO commits.


Search the archives, and I bet you will find many threads that OT started, talking about the NWO and other "conspiracy theories"
 

MoGal

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well the thing of it is, its not conspiracy, you have to go search out the news in other countries.... and Bernanke did announce back in Sept. they were buying $40 Billion month in mortgages.... we just weren't told the rest of the story.....

yes, well, evil is good and good is evil (or so it seems as americans have lost their morals and ability to think)

Conspiracy?? How long are people going to be stupid and not research the history of Hitler...... oh that's right turn the tv on and watch another american idol ....... all is well with the world as long as I don't get off the sofa ....
 

hypocritexposer

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MoGal said:
well the thing of it is, its not conspiracy, you have to go search out the news in other countries.... and Bernanke did announce back in Sept. they were buying $40 Billion month in mortgages.... we just weren't told the rest of the story.....

yes, well, evil is good and good is evil (or so it seems as americans have lost their morals and ability to think)

Conspiracy?? How long are people going to be stupid and not research the history of Hitler...... oh that's right turn the tv on and watch another american idol ....... all is well with the world as long as I don't get off the sofa ....



but it was a conspiracy....


....Bush got together with his banking and oil buddies to cause the "bush bust". There were more than 2 of them, that got together, to plan this crime. Just a theory, nothing can be proven.

Then there was the war. More than one of them planned the lying about WMD, and then comitted a crime when they invaded Iraq.

You see, many of those that demonize "conspiracy theories" also believe in them and also want you to believe in them.

They will do anything they can to convince you. Becasue the liberal/progresive government will then decide which conspiracy ttheories are valid, or not.

They will even lie about $trillions being spent in the "sandboxes" in the middle east, in an attempt to get you to spend more on Healthcare. All the while finding an excuse to compell Catholics to kill more babies.

"we need more tax dollars to pay for the wars and veterans, and abortions."


You want to see "hell", look at what the Liberals like OT, want to make the US
 

MoGal

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First, let us hear the definition of a conspiracy from former President of the United States, Thomas Jefferson:

"... a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, to plainly prove a deliberate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery." ["The Unseen Hand", by A. Ralph Epperson, p. 196]

Therefore, when a student of history realizes that American foreign policy has been dedicated to the "Novus Ordo Seclorum" (New World Order) stamped on the back of our One Dollar Bill, since 1776, through many changes of ministers, that student must realize that American leaders have been engaged in exactly the type of conspiracy of which President Thomas Jefferson warned so many years ago!
 

okfarmer

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MoGal said:
First, let us hear the definition of a conspiracy from former President of the United States, Thomas Jefferson:

"... a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, to plainly prove a deliberate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery." ["The Unseen Hand", by A. Ralph Epperson, p. 196]

Therefore, when a student of history realizes that American foreign policy has been dedicated to the "Novus Ordo Seclorum" (New World Order) stamped on the back of our One Dollar Bill, since 1776, through many changes of ministers, that student must realize that American leaders have been engaged in exactly the type of conspiracy of which President Thomas Jefferson warned so many years ago!

I think someone is altering the Latin meaning to support their view, it means "A new order for the ages." There is plenty of application here for a new country, especially one that was formed the way we were.

Before the adjournment of the Continental Congress on July 4th, 1776, a committee was appointed to develop a seal for the United States. The committee was Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson, three of the five men who had drafted the Declaration of Independence. They were merely the first committee, however. It took six years, the work of two additional committees and a total of 14 men before a final version of the Great Seal was approved.

The final proposal, which was accepted by Congress, was submitted on June 13, 1782 by Charles Thompson who had the title Secretary of Congress. He brought together some of the recommendations of the three committees, their consultants, and artists.

The first 1$ United States note wasn't printed until 1862.

There has been plenty wrong in our political offices, but the push to give up our sovereign status didn't start until much more recently.
 
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