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You all go on continuing to be better then others. As for me I'm gonna realize like everyone else I just put my pants on one leg at a time.

Yep- and if folks don't wake up and start rebelling about whats happening in this Administration, D.C., and Federal government as a whole- the government boys will be telling us which leg we have to put on first in order to toe the party line... :wink: :( :(
 

CattleArmy

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backhoeboogie said:
Mrs.Greg said:
backhoeboogie said:
Buy them a modest home in Canada. Get the out of here and out of our communities. How's that sound? Just not having to work, shop, or sit at a ball game with the sickoes would be worth it. Can we send the child molestors too? They simply have a thing for children, instead of same sex. You should be tolerant of them as well.

Now it is time to get back to reading the outlandish liberal rhetoric. You want to be able to commit and page 1 is all about commitment. Then you get off in blasting those of faith. We have all sinned. Here's the difference, we are not committing to sin over and over for the rest of our lives.

Mrs Greg, We'll let you have Pamela back if you promise to keep Rosy. :D
Ummm,no thx!!! :D

I don't think it got into a blast of faith,its just that Faith gets poured into things anytime someone wants to justify intolerance. I'm a Christian,but I try very hard not to judge people that are different then I am,like Shortgrass said God challenges our comfort zone at times.I'm not perfect,I've sinned and I've judged people but I struggle very hard to be open to anything and everybody.As you've seen I've failed in the Rosy-Pamela department. :oops:

I also believe most of you guys that "act" intolerant truly have more compassion then you let on.

It wasn't me casting any stones. In fact, I pretty much stayed the heck out of this one, aside from the fact that you have to laugh at those arguing the right to commit to sin, and be continuously forgiven.

I am not perfect either but I have been married for 28 years so all that hoopla about no commitment doesn't hold water in my life.

If someone wants to tolerate pediphiles and gays, more power to them. I don't want to associate with either, have either live in my neighborhood, or be told that I have to accept them in the work place. That's just how it is. I don't cram my life onto them and I don't want theirs crammed onto mine. Put a gay on television and I will pick up the remote.

One more time the gays do not prey on little children. I'll type it real slow so maybe some of you will finally get it.

Guess you are missing some good shows I happen to love Brothers and Sisters and Grey's Anatomy.
 

Sandhusker

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CattleArmy said:
jigs said:
kolanuraven said:
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:shock: :shock: You got a score chart?

You mean you give ' sins' a rating?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Now that is about the lamest EXCUSE I've ever heard come out of the mouth of a so called self declared "Christian".





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I think the biggest one for most Christians to not break is "thou shalt not judge....

Jigs I thought that too but they all just keep trying to disprove that too.

We're also supposed to hold our brothers accountable.
 

CattleArmy

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Sandhusker said:
CattleArmy said:
jigs said:
I think the biggest one for most Christians to not break is "thou shalt not judge....

Jigs I thought that too but they all just keep trying to disprove that too.

We're also supposed to hold our brothers accountable.

Starts spraying better then our brother begone. What a load of crap. How is any mortal man living so sin free to be able to cast judgement on another? Most need to clean off their own front porch before they start on the neighbors.
 

hypocritexposer

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I'm going to look at this subject in a different manner, other than a religious one.

If being gay is an "abnormality", as most gays profess. Why are we not trying to find a cure for it, like other abnormalities?
 

Sandhusker

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Pointing out errors and judging are not one in the same. Part of being a judge is sentencing for the crime, which is not our business. However, you can point out an error without judging.
 
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CattleArmy said:
Sandhusker said:
CattleArmy said:
Jigs I thought that too but they all just keep trying to disprove that too.

We're also supposed to hold our brothers accountable.

Starts spraying better then our brother begone. What a load of crap. How is any mortal man living so sin free to be able to cast judgement on another? Most need to clean off their own front porch before they start on the neighbors.

"He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

John 8
New American Standard Bible ©
The Adulterous Woman
1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. 3 The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center of the court, 4 they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. 5 “Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?” 6 They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. 7 But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. 10 Straightening up, Jesus said to her, “Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?” 11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more.”]
 

nonothing

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hypocritexposer said:
I'm going to look at this subject in a different manner, other than a religious one.

If being gay is an "abnormality", as most gays profess. Why are we not trying to find a cure for it, like other abnormalities?

So is being left handed,we are not searching for cure for that are we??
 

Sandhusker

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"I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more"

You just made my point, OT. Jesus is acknowledging that what she did was a sin, and he's not saying that it's OK because he also says not to do it anymore - but yet he did it without judging.

It seems to me that it would be about he same thing to tell two fags, "I'm not going to beat you up or condemn you, but you need to quit poking each other in the butt".
 

aplusmnt

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nonothing said:
Most of you here seem to dwell on what God considers a sin....It strikes me as strange that a person has the ego to even put themselves in the shoes of God....Aplus has no Idea what relationship people have with God,yet he comes across as if he was Gods equal ....Why does Aplus never talk about God's most wonderous gift.....the gift to love another .Is it that he is to busy judging others sins or has he never felt the glory of love...Has Aplus ever felt the glory of love?If he has he may understand that true love has no boundries,no rules and it is the only gift God gave each one of us to give...No where does God say a man cannot love another man or a women cannot love another women..God has perpared us all to sin,for the road of life is full of youthful mistakes and happiness corections...God gave you all the gift to give love,nowhere does it say to whom it must begiven too..When did loving someone and the acts that go with loving someone become a comandmant sin.....

No dwelling took me about a nano of a second to know right from wrong because of past Bible Studying. And I am Judging no one, name one person by name that I have judged? I am debating knowledge not judgine an individual. I am only conveying what the Bible says about Homosexuals, if you believe in the Bible then it may be important to you, if you do not believe in the Bible then it does not pertain to you anyhow.

We either believe in God and the Bible or we do not. I can respect an atheist, I am sure we have all doubted the existence of God one time or another in our lives. I just can not respect people that believe in God and the Bible and then try to condone something that the Bible CLEARLY SAYS IS WRONG! No grey area, no theological debate, it is plain and clear that God does not condone homosexuality. That is not judging on my part to point that out, if you have a problem with Homosexuality being a sin don't waste your time talking to me about it, take that up with God, he is the one that said it was so!

I wonder how many other things you guys hold up for interpretation of the Bible? Are Murder, Molestation, Burglary, acts of violence, adultery, blasphemy, all sins? Do you judge murders as being sinners?

Why is it most would say killing someone is a sin but being a Homosexual is not sinning? They are both clearly listed as sins in the Bible, why do you pick and choose which one is up for interpretation and which one is truly a sin?

Libs have a fascination with preserving homosexuals.
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
CattleArmy said:
Sandhusker said:
We're also supposed to hold our brothers accountable.

Starts spraying better then our brother begone. What a load of crap. How is any mortal man living so sin free to be able to cast judgement on another? Most need to clean off their own front porch before they start on the neighbors.

"He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

John 8
New American Standard Bible ©
The Adulterous Woman
1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. 3 The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center of the court, 4 they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. 5 “Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?” 6 They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. 7 But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. 10 Straightening up, Jesus said to her, “Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?” 11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more.”]

You are trying to over simplify things and painting with to broad of a brush.

Besides no one is judging rather someone will die because of being gay, just talking about what God says about the matter. I would hope I never judge or be in the place were I had to judge someone. God will decide the judgement of individuals.

But Jesus told us to share his word with the world, and part of his word is that being gay is a wrong. Once we share that with people it is up to them to decide to believe it or not. Once a Christian shares Jesus message with people the blood is off his hands and now on that person to heed scriptural direction or choose to continue doing what they want to do.

No judging here, just sharing the word of God with you, do as you please, blood is off my hands.
 

aplusmnt

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nonothing said:
No where does God say a man cannot love another man or a women cannot love another women..

Nothing wrong with a man loving another man, I believe the Bible shows that to be admirable. It is the inserting of the penis in the anal cavity of another man that it says is wrong :wink:

nonothing said:
.When did loving someone and the acts that go with loving someone become a comandmant sin.....

A few thousand years ago when the Bible was written :wink:
 

CattleArmy

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Sandhusker said:
Pointing out errors and judging are not one in the same. Part of being a judge is sentencing for the crime, which is not our business. However, you can point out an error without judging.


And a small town thought is just thrown out there for all to view. :roll:

I'd say before anyone goes to handing out errors they better make sure they are error free. I'm trying to think if there is anyone that can truely claim to be error free.
 

CattleArmy

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aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
Most of you here seem to dwell on what God considers a sin....It strikes me as strange that a person has the ego to even put themselves in the shoes of God....Aplus has no Idea what relationship people have with God,yet he comes across as if he was Gods equal ....Why does Aplus never talk about God's most wonderous gift.....the gift to love another .Is it that he is to busy judging others sins or has he never felt the glory of love...Has Aplus ever felt the glory of love?If he has he may understand that true love has no boundries,no rules and it is the only gift God gave each one of us to give...No where does God say a man cannot love another man or a women cannot love another women..God has perpared us all to sin,for the road of life is full of youthful mistakes and happiness corections...God gave you all the gift to give love,nowhere does it say to whom it must begiven too..When did loving someone and the acts that go with loving someone become a comandmant sin.....

No dwelling took me about a nano of a second to know right from wrong because of past Bible Studying. And I am Judging no one, name one person by name that I have judged? I am debating knowledge not judgine an individual. I am only conveying what the Bible says about Homosexuals, if you believe in the Bible then it may be important to you, if you do not believe in the Bible then it does not pertain to you anyhow.

We either believe in God and the Bible or we do not. I can respect an atheist, I am sure we have all doubted the existence of God one time or another in our lives. I just can not respect people that believe in God and the Bible and then try to condone something that the Bible CLEARLY SAYS IS WRONG! No grey area, no theological debate, it is plain and clear that God does not condone homosexuality. That is not judging on my part to point that out, if you have a problem with Homosexuality being a sin don't waste your time talking to me about it, take that up with God, he is the one that said it was so!

I wonder how many other things you guys hold up for interpretation of the Bible? Are Murder, Molestation, Burglary, acts of violence, adultery, blasphemy, all sins? Do you judge murders as being sinners?

Why is it most would say killing someone is a sin but being a Homosexual is not sinning? They are both clearly listed as sins in the Bible, why do you pick and choose which one is up for interpretation and which one is truly a sin?

Libs have a fascination with preserving homosexuals.

How come do conservatives have such a fascination with gay bashing and forgetting they are humans just like them?

Why is it that people don't recognize using the Lord's name in vain is a sin just as much as the other ones you've mentioned? Why is it so many are so quick to judge and yell sin when they themselves also know they have sinned? I've sinned and I'm probably going to more. Not on purpose but I'm human I make mistakes and I'm probably going to make more. To bad we all couldn't be such devout servants and never mess up like some think they don't.
 

CattleArmy

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aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
No where does God say a man cannot love another man or a women cannot love another women..

Nothing wrong with a man loving another man, I believe the Bible shows that to be admirable. It is the inserting of the penis in the anal cavity of another man that it says is wrong :wink:

nonothing said:
.When did loving someone and the acts that go with loving someone become a comandmant sin.....

A few thousand years ago when the Bible was written :wink:

Is it a sin when the same sexual act you described is between a man and a woman? If not why? Cause I'd say even with a man and a woman doing that has nothing to do with making offspring.
 

nonothing

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aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
No where does God say a man cannot love another man or a women cannot love another women..

Nothing wrong with a man loving another man, I believe the Bible shows that to be admirable. It is the inserting of the penis in the anal cavity of another man that it says is wrong :wink:

nonothing said:
.When did loving someone and the acts that go with loving someone become a comandmant sin.....

A few thousand years ago when the Bible was written :wink:


I find it odd that you speak only about the male sexaul acts so knowingly, yet you never mention women or thier homosexaul acts......That leads me to believe.that you,may question your own sexaulity and fear you may be gay yourself...You seem to be fixated the homosexaul males and thier acts but never once mention females......Oh there I go judging someone's lifestyle again. my bad...... :oops:


PS show me where in the bible, God says it is a sin.......Not some writer saying it,Show me where God writes it.....Cause if guys like you Aplus, who claim to be decent folk,were the same guys writing bible veruses back then,I question every word....If thier minds were as closed as yours and we have to take thier word for things,then who knows what is truely being written as fact.......
 

aplusmnt

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nonothing said:
PS show me where in the bible, God says it is a sin.......Not some writer saying it,Show me where God writes it.....Cause if guys like you Aplus, who claim to be decent folk,were the same guys writing bible veruses back then,I question every word....If thier minds were as closed as yours and we have to take thier word for things,then who knows what is truely being written as fact.......

I have no need to show you anything, you just established that you do not believe in the Bible, if you ever want to discuss religion we would have to go back to Religion 101 and establish the Bible is is Gods word and all inspired by him.

But since you have established you do not believe the Bible then debating religious doctrine or sins about Homosexuality is a waste of time.

Believe as you wish, that is your choice.
 

aplusmnt

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nonothing said:
I find it odd that you speak only about the male sexaul acts so knowingly, yet you never mention women or thier homosexaul acts......That leads me to believe.that you,may question your own sexaulity and fear you may be gay yourself...You seem to be fixated the homosexaul males and thier acts but never once mention females......Oh there I go judging someone's lifestyle again. my bad...... :oops:

Using men as an example helps bring home the point of how disgusting such unnatural acts truly are, paints a visual image that most can see how disgusting it truly is, yourself excluded of course :wink:

If I used women in my example a large portion of the men would become swayed as to how lesbians are not really that bad as they imagine two hot chicks doing each other, yourself exclude of course :wink:
 

nonothing

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aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
I find it odd that you speak only about the male sexaul acts so knowingly, yet you never mention women or thier homosexaul acts......That leads me to believe.that you,may question your own sexaulity and fear you may be gay yourself...You seem to be fixated the homosexaul males and thier acts but never once mention females......Oh there I go judging someone's lifestyle again. my bad...... :oops:

Using men as an example helps bring home the point of how disgusting such unnatural acts truly are, paints a visual image that most can see how disgusting it truly is, yourself excluded of course :wink:

If I used women in my example a large portion of the men would become swayed as to how lesbians are not really that bad as they imagine two hot chicks doing each other, yourself exclude of course :wink:


So you are ok Or at least a large portion of men here are ok with homosexaul behavior if the right people are doing it?So it is not a sin if two hot ladies are doing it? You should have the same outrage for all who sin this way,your point should be no different be it men or women.Some might think it hypocritical of you.....
 

jigs

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that is a very valid point. men see two men as gross, yet are intrigued by two women.... where most women are not interested in either pair....


are men just more diviant than women?
 

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