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Oldtimer Is This True??

TexasBred

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Why do we tolerate this?
Hello All, By now you have probably heard that President Obama came to Montana last Friday. However, there are many things that the major news has not covered. I feel that since Bill and I live here and we were at the airport on Friday I should share some facts with you. Whatever you decide to do with the information is up to you. If you chose to share this email with others I do ask that you DELETE my email address before you forward this on.

On Wednesday, August 5th it was announced locally that the President would be coming here. There are many groups here that are against his healthcare and huge spending so those groups began talking and deciding on what they were going to do. The White House would not release ANY details other than the date.

On about Tuesday Bill found out that they would be holding the "Town Hall" at the airport. (This is only because Bill knows EVERYONE at the airport) Our airport is actually located outside of Belgrade (tiny town) in a very remote location. Nothing is around there. They chose to use a hangar that is the most remotely located hangar. You could not pick a more remote location, and you can not get to it easily. It is totally secluded from the public.

FYI: We have many areas in Belgrade and Bozeman which could have held a large amount of folks with sufficient parking. (gymnasiums/ auditoriums). All of which have chairs and tables, and would not have to be SHIPPED IN!! $$$$$ During the week, cargo by the TONS was being shipped in constantly.
Airport employees could not believe how it just kept coming. Though it was our President coming several expressed how excessive it was, especially during a recession. $$$$$ Late Tuesday/early Wednesday the 12th, they said that tickets would be handed out on Thursday 9am at two locations and the president would be arriving around 12:30 Friday.

Thursday morning about 600 tickets were passed out. However, 1500 were printed at a Local printing shop per White House request.
Hmmmm......900 tickets just DISAPPEARED.

This same morning someone called into the radio from the local UPS branch and said that THOUSANDS of Dollars of Lobster were shipped in for Obama. Montana has some of the best beef in the nation!!!
And it would have been really wonderful to help out the local economy.
Anyone heard of the Recession?? Just think...with all of the traveling the White House is doing. $$$$$ One can only imagine what else we are paying for.

On Friday Bill and I got out to the airport about 10:45am. The groups that wanted to protest Obama's spending and healthcare had gotten a permit to protest and that area was roped off. But that was not to be.
A large bus carrying SEIU (Service Employees International Union)
members drove up onto the area (illegal) and unloaded right there. It was quite a commotion and there were specifically 2 SEIU men trying to make trouble and start a fight. Police did get involved and arrested the one man but they said they did not have the manpower to remove the SEIU crowd.

The SEIU crowd was very organized and young. About 99% were under the age of 30 and they were not locals! They had bullhorns and PROFESSIONALLY made signs. Some even wore preprinted T-shirts. Oh, and Planned Parenthood folks were with them.....professing abortion rights with their T-shirts and preprinted signs. (BTW, all these folks did have a permit to protest in ANOTHER area)

Those against healthcare/spending moved away from the SEIU crowd to avoid confrontation. They were orderly and respectful. Even though SEIU kept coming over and walking through, continuing to be very intimidating and aggressive at the direction of the one SEIU man.

So we had Montana folks from ALL OVER the state with their homemade signs and their DOGS with homemade signs. We had cowboys, nurses, doctors you name it. There was even a guy from Texas who had been driving through. He found out about the occasion, went to the store, made a sign, and came to protest.

If you are wondering about the press.....Well, all of the major networks were over by that remote hangar I mentioned. They were conveniently parked on the other side of the buildings FAR away.
None of these crowds were even visible to them. I have my doubts that they knew anything about the crowds.

We did have some local news media around us from this state and Idaho.
Speaking of the local media...they were invited. However, all questions were to be turned into the White House in advance of the event. Wouldn't want anyone to have to think off the top of their head.

It was very obvious that it was meant to be totally controlled by the White House. Everything was orchestrated down to the last detail to make it appear that Montana is just crazy for Obama and government healthcare. Even those people that talked about their insurance woes........the White House called our local HRDC (Human Resource and Development Committee) and asked for names. Then the White House asked those folks to come. Smoke and mirrors...EVERYTHING was staged!!!!!!!!!!!

I am very dismayed about what I learned about our current White House.
The amount of control and manipulation was unbelievable. I felt I was not living in the United States of America, more like the USSR!! I was physically nauseous. Bill and I have been around when Presidents or Heads of State visit. It has NEVER been like this. I am truly very frightened for our country. America needs your prayers and your voices. If you care about our country please get involved. Know the issues. And let Congress hear your voices again and again!! If they are willing to put forth so much effort to BULLY a small town one can only imagine what is going on in Washington DC.
Scary!!

Kathy Bozeman, Montana
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
There are some folks I touch base with in another forum who wanted to be in there. Some were from Butte, some from Great Falls and they were going to meet up with some there in Helena. None got in.

It appears as more of Obama's efforts backfiring on him. The more of these meetings he has, the more he is going to hear from the people. If he truly doesn't want to hear from the people, why is he doing this?

He is holding 97% of the black voters and it appears this will always be the case no matter what he does. Maybe he should start having black only town hall meetings? Is that what he is accustom to in his community organizaing experience back in Illinois?

OT is declaring Montana a success. So if you are keeping score this is 1 win for all of these town hall meetings? He offended the folks from Great Falls, Butte and Helena that I chat with online (in a non-political forum).
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
TB, I posted this a few days ago under Obama/Mt the rest of the
story. There are some replies there in case you want to go
back and read them. You might find it interesting...
 
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Anonymous

Guest
How do you know what is true with all the false info and lies being put out anymore :???: But most will believe whatever fits their agenda anyway-- and the rightwingnuts want to promote anarchy in the country--so this Kathy knows they'll believe that.....
Anymore any action seems to turn into a massive world threatening conspiracy in the pee running down their legs paranoia of these rightwingernuts.... :roll:

Thursday morning about 600 tickets were passed out. However, 1500 were printed at a Local printing shop per White House request.
Hmmmm......900 tickets just DISAPPEARED.


I do know that the folks that told me the tickets were handed out first come- first served-- except 150 tickets for the political stage folks (WH,Senators, Governor) to hand out are people I know and people that put their name behind what they say...And it is what all the local press was reporting--even with articles about how the tickets were distributed first come first served from the Belgrade City Hall and Bozeman City Hall...
And that was announced days before on how it would be handled--so if folks out of town didn't make arrangement for getting tickets they are just SOL...


The vast majority of the 1,300 tickets for the event in a tarmac hangar were distributed on a first-come, first-served basis, some from Belgrade City Hall and the rest from City Hall in the larger nearby town of Bozeman. A few tickets were distributed by the White House to elected officials, community leaders and local supporters.

Could this Kathy ? have just added another 0 to 150 to make it a better fearmongering/hatemongering story ?
 

Tam

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
Maybe he should start having black only town hall meetings?

Not sure if he would care to go black only either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7syx26QtQIM


:shock: :wink:
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
How do you know what is true with all the false info and lies being put out anymore :???:

Oldtimer said:
I do know that the folks that told me the tickets were handed out first come- first served-- except 150 tickets for the political stage folks (WH,Senators, Governor) to hand out are people I know and people that put their name behind what they say...

Do you have selective belief in what other's say OT? :D

A couple of weeks back someone explained how to know when a certain someone was telling a lie. How did that go? Something about their lips moving.

The fact that Obama stacks the deck is a double edged sword. It is even better when a well respected local gets slammed in Obama's little public forum.

All of you are doing more to help the republican cause that any of the rest of us the conservatvies could ever do. Chickens have a way of coming home to roost.

You have control of DC right now. Everyone is taking note of all that vast achievement :D :D :D
 

Sandhusker

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OT, "How do you know what is true with all the false info and lies being put out anymore?"

You make this statement but then quote Obama? You're contradicting yourself.
 

TexasBred

Well-known member
Could this Kathy ? have just added another 0 to 150 to make it a better fearmongering/hatemongering story

I don't know...these are your Montana folks. Would they do that? Why would 150 tickets make for better fearmongering/hatemongering story??(such original terms).
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
When a "town hall" meeting is being staged, you expect the audience to be local. If Obama is going to haul that same crew around, he may was well just make a movie - a comedy.
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
I'd like to know why the SEIU was there. OT?

Wouldn't hold my breath, the liberal participation is a little slow today, there are some pretty strong thread out there with some good facts in them and that usually pushes the liberals in hiding for a while! :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
Still was wondering why the SEIU was there... OT? Badaxe? Reader?

We have lots of service unions in Montana-- Bozeman is centered right between two of the bigger of those union towns- Billings and Butte- not sure but Helena used to be strong too...
Our area no longer has much with the waitress's, cooks and bartenders- but that used to be one of the strongest unions in town...We were just looking at some of the old Union signs showing you were a union business a few days ago...Being this is a railroad town- you didn't used to get any rail business unless you had union employees...I can remember when even the bar swamper was union-altho we still have an active janitors union- I don't think they consider the swampers anymore.....

Some of the older ladies I know have their retirement income (plus SS) coming in from being members of service unions all the years they worked as waitress's, cooks, and bartenders....
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
You have lots of unions to that is why Obama shipped them in..... OK. Don't you have more ranchers? Why didn't he ship a busload of them in?

When you have to reach to make excuses for this man, doesn't a little voice ask you "WHY"?
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
You have lots of unions to that is why Obama shipped them in..... OK. Don't you have more ranchers? Why didn't he ship a busload of them in?

When you have to reach to make excuses for this man, doesn't a little voice ask you "WHY"?

From what I heard about all the Montana rallys that are pro "single payer" the union members have been strong proponents of it- and actively involved...
One of their main arguments is that over the years they've received no/little in pay raises as the employers have had to use it to pay for their increasing insurance rates and still ending up with rising deductibles...
Going backwards....
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
You have lots of unions to that is why Obama shipped them in..... OK. Don't you have more ranchers? Why didn't he ship a busload of them in?

When you have to reach to make excuses for this man, doesn't a little voice ask you "WHY"?

From what I heard about all the Montana rallys that are pro "single payer" the union members have been strong proponents of it- and actively involved...
One of their main arguments is that over the years they've received no/little in pay raises as the employers have had to use it to pay for their increasing insurance rates and still ending up with rising deductibles...
Going backwards....

The unions have their own deals. If the members wanted to come for whatever reason, they could of done it like everybody else, get in their cars and drive - but Obama shipped them in. Why did Obama ship them in?
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
You have lots of unions to that is why Obama shipped them in..... OK. Don't you have more ranchers? Why didn't he ship a busload of them in?

When you have to reach to make excuses for this man, doesn't a little voice ask you "WHY"?

From what I heard about all the Montana rallys that are pro "single payer" the union members have been strong proponents of it- and actively involved...
One of their main arguments is that over the years they've received no/little in pay raises as the employers have had to use it to pay for their increasing insurance rates and still ending up with rising deductibles...
Going backwards....

The unions have their own deals. If the members wanted to come for whatever reason, they could of done it like everybody else, get in their cars and drive - but Obama shipped them in. Why did Obama ship them in?

Because oldtimer said so
 

aplusmnt

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reader (the Second) said:
aplusmnt said:
Sandhusker said:
I'd like to know why the SEIU was there. OT?

Wouldn't hold my breath, the liberal participation is a little slow today, there are some pretty strong thread out there with some good facts in them and that usually pushes the liberals in hiding for a while! :wink:

Full of yourself aren't you?

Perhaps we're fed up with how close minded and single issue focused you are? And how your days revolve around getting your jollies trying to aggravate liberals and "score points". :wink:

It's pouring rain here. It's fall and a somber time for me. I have to work all weekend. Need to conserve my energy and not fritter it away on strangers. :lol: :lol:

I am sure if we started a slam Palin or Bush thread you would find some energy! :wink:
 

Tam

Well-known member
reader (the Second) said:
I know nothing about SEIU. I had never heard of them. I see nothing nefarious about union members being interested in healthcare discussions.

We could point to lots of groups where a couple of members got out of line when fired up. Does that brand the entire group as evil? Not in my mind but then I'm not simple minded or a conspiracy theorist :D

Maybe if you watched Fox Reader you would know about them. I'm just saying.
:?


And why is it the whole SEIU gang can't be branded for what a few do BUT anyone that disagrees with Obama be they Conservative, independent, soft Dems, Black, White or yellow are considered Racist wingnut ********* birthers that are card carrying Nazi's deserving of the vile rude comments from the Dems? Mind answering that Reader???? :???:


And no Reader you are not "single" minded :wink:

What :shock: Aplusmnt said tommorrow. :lol:
 
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