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Supreme Court Strikes Down Montana's Campaign Finance Law

By Mike Cronin

Story Created: Jun 25, 2012 at 8:07 PM MDT

On Monday, the US Supreme Court struck down the Corrupt Practices Act of 1912, which prohibits corporate spending in state and local elections.

Senator Max Baucus (D – Montana) said, "This decision is an absolute outrage. It's an outrage to montana, to the country. It undermines our democracy in our country."

In a 5-4 vote, conservative justices prevailed, citing the 2010 Citizens United decision, which allows corporate contributions in federal elections. They say that also applies to state and local elections.

Along with 22 other states, Montana has led an effort to challenge that ruling; saying its 100 year old law limits corporate campaign spending in state and local elections.

"It's hard to have quite as much faith in the court when on a 5-4 decision, they strike down 100 years of what montanans have done and stood for," said Attorney General Steve Bullock (D – Montana).

American Tradition Partnership (ATP), a Washington DC based conservative group, is praising the decision.

Donny Ferguson, Executive Director of ATP, said, "The First Amendment clearly states that the government can not restrict peoples' rights to speak, no matter what from the people choose to come together. It's a violation of both freedom of speech and freedom of association."

ATP is now asking for Attorney General Bullock and Governor Schweitzer's resignation.

Ferguson said, "They repeatedly, in our case and in the case of Canyon Ferry, haven unfairly and falsely prosecuted the people for expressing opinions that differ from them and that's a violation of oval office
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"At the end of the day, this is a law that's been important for Montana, not only for the past century, but how we structure our elections and choose our public servants. it's something that's going to be important going generations ahead," said Bullock.

Bullock tells us he'll encourage disclosure laws during the next Legislature, and Senator Baucus says he's going to introduce a constitutional amendment to try to reverse the high court's decision.

Governor Schweitzer has posted a video to Youtube comdemning the decision...
 
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Been too busy I hadn't even heard they ruled on it...

This is pretty much a loss for all Montanan's- conservatives, liberals, and libertarians-- with a huge loss to states rights...

Be bad to see the state go back to the days when the Anaconda Company and towns like Butte and Helena ran the state...All of our politicians will be answering to/puppets for the big corporate entities from everywhere in the world...
 

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Oldtimer said:
Been too busy I hadn't even heard they ruled on it...

This is pretty much a loss for all Montanan's- conservatives, liberals, and libertarians-- with a huge loss to states rights...

Be bad to see the state go back to the days when the Anaconda Company and towns like Butte and Helena ran the state...All of our politicians will be answering to/puppets for the big corporate entities from everywhere in the world...

Gee I thought a Libertarian like you would applaud the government being pushed back on a regulation limiting free speech. :?
 

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Who are corporations?

The stockholders, that's who. Yep, people just like us who have money invested in them.................................

Next time you get your ballot or proxy in the mail, don't throw it away. It's YOUR corporation.
 
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Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
Been too busy I hadn't even heard they ruled on it...

This is pretty much a loss for all Montanan's- conservatives, liberals, and libertarians-- with a huge loss to states rights...

Be bad to see the state go back to the days when the Anaconda Company and towns like Butte and Helena ran the state...All of our politicians will be answering to/puppets for the big corporate entities from everywhere in the world...

Gee I thought a Libertarian like you would applaud the government being pushed back on a regulation limiting free speech. :?

Mussolini style Fascists are about the only ones I know that think Corporate entities should have the same rights as individuals...

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

Montana and 22 other states lost a large amount of states rights that some had utilyzed for over a hundred years in this grab to give international corporatism more power over US (and now state) politics and policy...
 

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Oldtimer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
Been too busy I hadn't even heard they ruled on it...

This is pretty much a loss for all Montanan's- conservatives, liberals, and libertarians-- with a huge loss to states rights...

Be bad to see the state go back to the days when the Anaconda Company and towns like Butte and Helena ran the state...All of our politicians will be answering to/puppets for the big corporate entities from everywhere in the world...

Gee I thought a Libertarian like you would applaud the government being pushed back on a regulation limiting free speech. :?

Mussolini style Fascists are about the only ones I know that think Corporate entities should have the same rights as individuals...

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

Montana and 22 other states lost a large amount of states rights that some had utilyzed for over a hundred years in this grab to give international corporatism more power over US (and now state) politics and policy...

You should have expected it. Look what happened to Arizona.
 

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Fascism is the attitude of giving full interest in economic, social, and military power to a dominant race or state lead by a single dominant leader. Fascism basically rejected the idea of Socialism, Capitalism, and Democracy. Fascism’s are single-party dictatorships characterized by terrorism and police surveillance. It focuses on ethnicity and “our” race being better than “your” race. Fascism isn’t limited to one culture alone. Each culture can believe that it is better and each person can consider himself to be better than his fellow man. Fascism is used to categorize censorship and oppression. Ones who take away freedom from others can be considered fascist.

DAMN....this sure sounds familar around the US of A lately.
 

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TexasBred said:
Fascism is the attitude of giving full interest in economic, social, and military power to a dominant race or state lead by a single dominant leader. Fascism basically rejected the idea of Socialism, Capitalism, and Democracy. Fascism’s are single-party dictatorships characterized by terrorism and police surveillance. It focuses on ethnicity and “our” race being better than “your” race. Fascism isn’t limited to one culture alone. Each culture can believe that it is better and each person can consider himself to be better than his fellow man. Fascism is used to categorize censorship and oppression. Ones who take away freedom from others can be considered fascist.

DAMN....this sure sounds familar around the US of A lately.


Kind of sounds like obama's ttakeover of GM, eh? Or maybe even the relationship between NBC and obama, or obama and Soros' hedge funds.
 

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I'm with OT on this one. I don't see anything in the 18 enumerated which gives the Feds the power to make this call in state elections.
 

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This law was passed after the money battle between the Copper Kings here in Montana in the battle for the Govenors office.
Back then the People of Montana were sick of it and the legislature passed this law.
The Supereme Court had NO BUSINESS butting into our States Law.
What is Next going after the ban on political commercials being played on election day?
 

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Obama seems to be all about fairness so is it really fair that Unions donate/dominate election but those that have to deal with union thugs have not rights to protect their interests when it comes to who gets elected?

If you want fair elections then ban Unions buying them for the Democrats. If you don't want to limit the unions influence then stop trying to limit others influence. :roll:
 

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I Luv Herfrds said:
This law was passed after the money battle between the Copper Kings here in Montana in the battle for the Govenors office.
Back then the People of Montana were sick of it and the legislature passed this law.
The Supereme Court had NO BUSINESS butting into our States Law.
What is Next going after the ban on political commercials being played on election day?

Yet you condone Buckwheat's "Rose Garden Amnesty" plan?

The lawsuit against AZ on immigration is by far the largest strike against State's Rights in U.S. history. Think about it. The Fed's refusal to enforce illegal immigration to the point that it's dangerous to a state's citizens so they act on their own to mitigate it.

But no, this corrupt administration takes them to court to stop them from defending themselves.

Both you and OT should crawl back into your hole.........................

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Hey Mike FU!
Go back into your own hole there in AL anfd butt the hell out of Montanas business instead.

This law has been in affect for over 100 years where AZ has only been around for a short time. By the way if you even bothered to recall I supported AZ law. I hate Obummer in the WH and celebrayted Walkers victory in the recall election.

Get your facts straight before you tell a person who actually knows Montana history to crawl into a hole.
 

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