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One-on-one doctors take on Health Care Reform

Faster horses

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Between Mr. FH and myself, we saw two doctors yesterday.
They are upset about the direction of health care under the
Health Care Reform.

My doctor: Feels badly for the students studying to be doctors.
He doesnt' think the future is very bright for them. He plans to
retire at 55. Not sense going through the hassle after 2012.

Mr. FH doctor: First thing when he came in and sat down
and got on his computer to look up his past records, he aplogized
for the computer. Said it wasn't very effecient and sometimes
wouldn't work at all. To which I said, "get a different computer."
He looked me straight in the eye and said, "this is the one the
government mandates we use." And he was NOT happy. He
says that he has reviewed this administrations stand on many
issues and the only conclusion is that they are dead set to
ruin the country. I told him about our young friend that is going
to medical school and is now interning at MIT. He said my advice to
her is "Don't become a doctor." Now isn't that great? Here we have
a brilliant young woman that has had the dream of becoming a
doctor her whole life and now is told, "Don't" by one of her peers?

I did find this where you can go and protest the Health Care Reform.
This is a legitimate petition available to sign:

http://freeourhealthcarenow.com/
 
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Anonymous

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Last few weeks I saw the reason a few Doctors oppose wanting all to have insurance...

A couple months ago during his regular yearly checkup- my 88 year old uncles regular Doctor- who is an Internal Specialist noted an abnormal heartbeat - and suggested a heart scan that she and the local hospital performed, which medicare picked up the bill on - which showed he has an enlarged chamber in his heart...She adjusted his medication- but wanted him to let her refer it to a cardiac specialist....

He had an appointment with the specialist- which was done over the internet (Dr was in Billings)... He talked to him 15 minutes over the video- and decided the first Doctor was probably plumb right in her diagnosis/care...

Last week the bill came for the Cardiac specialist-- $735 for less than 15 minutes visitation and maybe a 1/2 hours viewing of the scan video- which almost sent my heart into fibrillation... :shock: :roll:

But then as you further reviewed the bill- if you had Medicare the bill was like $60 dollars-- and if you had Medicare supplemental insurance (which he has) they added on $15.....

But if you had no insurance- or a private carrier that would pay the amount- the bill was $735...Thats worse than $1000 hookers- and they at least kiss you :wink:
 

Steve

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or a private carrier that would pay the amount- the bill was $735..


as medicare, (the government) cuts costs, the private insurance and individuals pick it up... (re-distribution)

with out private insurance picking up the cost, a cardiologist getting $60, couldn't pay his insurance, building and staff... and would find a more lucrative job... (like being a congressmen)
 
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Anonymous

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Steve said:
or a private carrier that would pay the amount- the bill was $735..


as medicare, (the government) cuts costs, the private insurance and individuals pick it up... (re-distribution)

with out private insurance picking up the cost, a cardiologist getting $60, couldn't pay his insurance, building and staff... and would find a more lucrative job... (like being a congressmen)

Like I said- ain't anyone- be it a $1000 hooker or a politician worth $735 hour....

So you think we should just let the 88 year olds go out and die with no treatment...Old Indian way- leave them on the trail :???:
 

loomixguy

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Oldtimer said:
Like I said- ain't anyone- be it a $1000 hooker or a politician worth $735 hour....
:

What are you now, the wage police? Just because YOU have never made money like that doesn't mean that other folks can't. If they did 2 a day, that would figure around $1500/day. I have had a few of those myself, but I've had a lot more where the balance at the end of the day is negative. That is the problem with folks working for wages, they tend to think small, and the incentive to get out there and perform is nil. I'm sure the docs had some overhead expenses, including their education, so the $735 was not "all profit".
 

Tam

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loomixguy said:
Oldtimer said:
Like I said- ain't anyone- be it a $1000 hooker or a politician worth $735 hour....
:

What are you now, the wage police? Just because YOU have never made money like that doesn't mean that other folks can't. If they did 2 a day, that would figure around $1500/day. I have had a few of those myself, but I've had a lot more where the balance at the end of the day is negative. That is the problem with folks working for wages, they tend to think small, and the incentive to get out there and perform is nil. I'm sure the docs had some overhead expenses, including their education, so the $735 was not "all profit".

A true Liberal, Obama thinks he can tell the CEO's what they are worth to a company and Oldtimer thinks he has a right to tell a doctor what he is worth. Oldtimer will not have to worry about the Doctor making $735. When Obamacare kicks in the US Doctors will be lucky if they get re-embruised $60 for any of his patients, once Obama bankrupts all insurance comparies on his road to Single Payer System.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Tam said:
loomixguy said:
Oldtimer said:
Like I said- ain't anyone- be it a $1000 hooker or a politician worth $735 hour....
:

What are you now, the wage police? Just because YOU have never made money like that doesn't mean that other folks can't. If they did 2 a day, that would figure around $1500/day. I have had a few of those myself, but I've had a lot more where the balance at the end of the day is negative. That is the problem with folks working for wages, they tend to think small, and the incentive to get out there and perform is nil. I'm sure the docs had some overhead expenses, including their education, so the $735 was not "all profit".

A true Liberal, Obama thinks he can tell the CEO's what they are worth to a company and Oldtimer thinks he has a right to tell a doctor what he is worth. Oldtimer will not have to worry about the Doctor making $735. When Obamacare kicks in the US Doctors will be lucky if they get re-embruised $60 for any of his patients, once Obama bankrupts all insurance comparies on his road to Single Payer System.

Not sure of the amount per patient, but I'm pretty sure his 88 year old will have to drive to the office, instead of getting an internet visit, that's for sure.
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
or a private carrier that would pay the amount- the bill was $735..


as medicare, (the government) cuts costs, the private insurance and individuals pick it up... (re-distribution)

with out private insurance picking up the cost, a cardiologist getting $60, couldn't pay his insurance, building and staff... and would find a more lucrative job... (like being a congressmen)

Like I said- ain't anyone- be it a $1000 hooker or a politician worth $735 hour....

So you think we should just let the 88 year olds go out and die with no treatment...Old Indian way- leave them on the trail :???:

where in the world did you come up with that from my comment?

no where in any statement I have ever made would lead a sane person to think that is the way I feel...

I think you owe me an apology...
 

katrina

Well-known member
Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
as medicare, (the government) cuts costs, the private insurance and individuals pick it up... (re-distribution)

with out private insurance picking up the cost, a cardiologist getting $60, couldn't pay his insurance, building and staff... and would find a more lucrative job... (like being a congressmen)

Like I said- ain't anyone- be it a $1000 hooker or a politician worth $735 hour....

So you think we should just let the 88 year olds go out and die with no treatment...Old Indian way- leave them on the trail :???:

where in the world did you come up with that from my comment?

no where in any statement I have ever made would lead a sane person to think that is the way I feel...

I think you owe me an apology...

I agree steve... Totally uncalled for.... Im sure his community would be proud.... And we won't even mention his family.... I'm sure his wife would be proud....
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Time to step it up OT.

You man enough to call it quits on the wild accusations and the uncalled for name calling.

Be a man.
 

Larrry

Well-known member
So, how about it OT. Are you ready to cowboyup and quit your acts of namecalling.

You are a big boy, I know you can do it.
 

hopalong

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Angusgord said:
Bunch of putz's!!!!! Keep it up ,you already did your grade 8 girl whining and got Pig farmer banned ,next you'll be sending Oldtimer to retirement from rancher's just because he doesn't think like a bunch of stepford wife's!!!

FH ,Dr's doing brain transplant's now?

Only on people like you, only takes a 1/4" cut for the brain to fall out and a pea to be placed back in. :wink: :wink:
EH oldtimer???
 

jingo2

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Sounds you all need a good " lay"....... but I don't there's enough pork chops for all you to tie around your necks....
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Relax kojingo, no one is coming near you, it is out what you have caught is contagious and there is no cure for it,

The other disease you have there is no cure for, stupidity, go rope anther antelope, while flying low in your Cessna weraring those $600 red shoes, while some one drives your Chrisyler 300 around your 6 bathroom house :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Angusgord said:
hopalong said:
Relax kojingo, no one is coming near you, it is out what you have caught is contagious and there is no cure for it,

The other disease you have there is no cure for, stupidity, go rope anther antelope, while flying low in your Cessna weraring those $600 red shoes, while some one drives your Chrisyler 300 around your 6 bathroom house :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
Sniffing computer cleaner Eddy???

You are so clueless as to what my name really is it is (as oldtimer says amusing) go change your depends and get back to me later!! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
You have been warned about thinking angus>
Even your parents tried to do the right thing when they tried to cull you. :wink: :wink:
You are a classic case for birth control which your parents should have used in your case.
And yes I have used more than one ID, just like you are doing and you admitted to doing, KETTLE= BLACK lol lol lol
EH?
 
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