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Only 5%-10% Have Paid Obamacare Premium

Mike

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Report: Only 5-10% of Obamacare 'Enrollees' Have Paid First Month's Premium
Breitbart | 23 Dec 2013 | Wynton Hall



The left-leaning journalism organization ProPublica says the only Obamacare deadline that matters is the one few are talking about: the recently extended January 10 deadline by which so-called Obamacare “enrollees” must make their first premium payment to officially activate their insurance plan.

No payment, no health coverage, notes ProPublica writer Charles Ornstein.

“There’s a huge caveat that isn’t getting much public attention,” says Ornstein. “For coverage to take effect on Jan. 1, enrollees must pay their first month’s premium on time.” Ornstein says this overlooked fact raises “the prospect that actual enrollment will be far lower than the figures HHS [Health and Human Services] is releasing.”

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California and New York, two of the biggest Obamacare enrollment states, have yet to produce payment data.
 

Steve

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Tam said:
With about 80% of those signing up for MEDICAID it likely will be free, NOT GOOD BUT FREE.

well free for now.. but like any other federal "gift" ,.. you children end up paying..

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services

Medicaid Estate Recovery

In order to fulfill this mission, Medicaid also recovers expenses paid on behalf of recipients from their estates under certain circumstances.

Highlights of the 1993 Estate Recovery Mandate:

States must pursue recovering costs for medical assistance consisting of:

Nursing home or other long-term institutional services;
Home- and community-based services;
Hospital and prescription drug services provided while the recipient was receiving nursing facility or home- and community-based services; and
At State option, any other items covered by the Medicaid State Plan.

At a minimum, states must recover from assets that pass through probate (which is governed by state law). At a maximum, states may recover any assets of the deceased recipient.

WHOSE ESTATES ARE SUBJECT TO RECOVERY?

Recoveries may only be made from the estates of deceased recipients who were 55 or older when they received Medicaid benefits

When home equity becomes part of the estate, it is subject to Medicaid estate recovery. The survivors may either sell the home and use the proceeds to satisfy the Medicaid claim or, if they wish to keep the home in the family, satisfy the claim with their own personal funds.

but as of today that doesn't effect the free medicaid.. ... that starts on Jan 1st of 2014... so remember not everything that is free actually is free..
Medicaid Estate Recovery + ACA: Unintended Consequences?

When a person is found to be eligible for Medicaid, they will be automatically enrolled into their state's Medicaid program. Those forced into Medicaid will, due to the federal law, also be forced into estate recovery. Their estates will be partly or fully taken over by the federal or state government when they die.

The kicker of it is, if you make the right amount to qualify for a subsidized health insurance plan, your costs are going to be shared and subsidized by the government. But if you go on Medicaid, you owe the entire amount that Medicaid spends on you from the day you turn 55.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/17/1248425/-Medicaid-Estate-Recovery-ACA-Unintended-Consequences#

there is more little glitches in the law,.. but in reality they don't just charge you for the care you get,.. they also charge you for "administering the plan"

At the very least what we are getting set up to do is implement an arbitrary, capricious, and regressive tax, that will only be paid by older, low income people.


so if you make a deal with the devil.. expect to pay the bill... and remember.. we tried to warn you..
 
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