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Of course its not free.But what is it that we get from Isreal?And dont forget Hanta Yo the Jews dont like you Christians any better than they like the Muslims and Arabs.
 
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WRAPUP 2-Bomb kills Iran nuclear scientist as crisis mounts
Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:29pm EST


TEHRAN, Jan 12 (Reuters) - An Iranian nuclear scientist was blown up in his car by a motorbike hitman, prompting Tehran to blame Israeli and U.S. agents but insist the killing would not derail a nuclear programme that has raised fears of war and threatened world oil supplies.

The fifth daylight attack on technical experts in two years, the magnetic bomb delivered a targeted blast to the door of 32-year-old Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan's car during Wednesday's morning rush-hour. The chemical engineer's driver also died, Iranian media said, and a passer-by was slightly hurt.

Israel, whose military chief said on Tuesday that Iran could expect to suffer more mysterious mishaps, declined comment. The White House, struggling for Chinese and Russian help on economic sanctions, denied any U.S. role and condemned the attack.

While Israeli or Western involvement seemed eminently plausible to independent analysts, a role for local Iranian factions or other regional interests engaged in a deadly shadow war of bluff and sabotage could not be ruled out.

The killing, which left debris hanging in trees and body parts on the road, came in a week of heightened tension:

Iran has started an underground uranium enrichment plant and sentenced an American to death for spying; Washington and Europe have stepped up efforts to cripple Iran's oil exports for its refusal to halt work that the West says betrays an ambition to build nuclear weapons. Iran says its aims are entirely peaceful.

Tehran has threatened to choke the West's supply of Gulf oil if its exports are hit by sanctions, drawing a U.S. warning that its navy was ready to open fire to prevent any blockade of the strategic Strait of Hormuz, through which 35 percent of the world's seaborne traded oil passes.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Iran's threats to close the strait were "provocative and dangerous" and repeated the White House denial of any U.S. involvement in the killing of Ahmadi-Roshan.

In Tokyo on Thursday, Japanese Finance Minister Jun Azumi pledged after talks with U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to steadily reduce oil imports from Iran in support of U.S. sanctions on Tehran over its nuclear programme.

Geithner welcomed Tokyo's cooperation, which could be an encouraging sign for U.S. policy after China, a big buyer of Iranian crude, and Russia rebuffed U.S. appeals to starve Iran of much-needed revenue from oil sales.

On a visit to Cuba on Wednesday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said nothing about the bomb attack but flashed the victory sign and said Iran had done nothing to warrant enmity from its enemies.

"Have we assaulted someone? Have we wanted more than we should have? Never, never. We have only asked to speak about and establish justice," said Ahmadinejad.

Analysts saw the latest assassination, which would have taken no little expertise, as less a reaction to recent events than part of a longer-running, covert effort to thwart Iran's nuclear development programme that has also included suspected computer viruses and mystery explosions.

While fears of war have forced up oil prices, the region has seen periods of sabre-rattling and limited bloodshed before without reaching all-out conflict. But a willingness in Israel, which sees an imminent Iranian atom bomb as a threat to its existence, to attack Iranian nuclear sites, with or without U.S. backing, has heightened the sense that a crisis is coming.



"HEINOUS ACT"

The Atomic Energy Organisation of Iran, which has failed to persuade the West that its quest for nuclear power has no hidden military goal, said the killing of Ahmadi-Roshan would not deter it: "We will continue our path without any doubt ... Our path is irreversible," it said in a statement carried on television.

"The heinous acts of America and the criminal Zionist regime will not disrupt our glorious path ... The more you kill us, the more our nation will awake."

First Vice-President Mohammad Reza Rahimi, quoted by IRNA news agency, said: "Iran's enemies should know they cannot prevent Iran's progress by carrying out such terrorist acts."

Iran's leaders, preparing for the first national election since a disputed presidential vote in 2009 brought street protests against 32 years of clerical rule, are struggling to contain internal tensions. Defiance of Israel and Western powers plays well with many who will vote in March.

In Washington, White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said: "The United States had absolutely nothing to do with this ... We strongly condemn all acts of violence, including acts of violence like what is being reported today."

Israel, which has a history of covert killings abroad, declined comment, though army spokesman Yoav Mordechai wrote on Facebook: "I don't know who settled the score with the Iranian scientist, but I am definitely not shedding any tears."


MOTORCYCLE HITMAN

The attack bore some of the hallmarks of sophisticated intelligence agencies capable of circumventing Iran's own extensive security apparatus and apparently taking care to limit the harm to passers-by.

While witnesses spoke of a frighteningly loud explosion and parts of the Peugeot 405 ended up in the branches of the trees lining Gol Nabi Street, much of the car was left intact. This suggested a charge designed to be sure of both killing the occupants and preventing serious injury to others.

Witnesses said the motorcycle, from which the rear pillion passenger reached out to stick the device to the side of the car, made off into the heavy commuter traffic.

Though the scientist killed -- the fourth in five such attacks since January 2010 -- was only 32, Iranian media described him as having a role overseeing uranium enrichment at Natanz underground site. The semi-official news agency Mehr said Ahmadi-Roshan had recently met officials of the U.N. nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency.

At the IAEA in Vienna, where a spokeswoman condemned the killing, officials could not confirm knowing of him.

Analysts say that killing scientists -- especially those whose lack of personal protection suggests a relatively junior role -- is unlikely to have much direct impact on Iran's nuclear programme, which Western governments allege is seeking to enrich enough uranium highly enough to let it build weapons.


COVERT WAR

Sabotage -- like mysterious reported explosions at military facilities or the Stuxnet computer virus widely suspected to have been deployed by Israel and the United States to disrupt nuclear facilities in 2010 -- may have had more direct effects.

However, assassinations may be intended to discourage Iranians with nuclear expertise from working on the programme.

Bruno Tertrais from France's Strategic Research Foundation said: "It certainly has a psychological effect on scientists working on the nuclear programme."

He cautioned, however, against assuming that Israel, the United States or both were behind the latest attack.

Trita Parsi, a U.S.-based expert on Iran, said the killing might, along with the heightened rhetoric of recent weeks, be part of a pattern ahead of a possible resumption of negotiations on Iran's nuclear programme; some parties may want to improve their bargaining position, others may see violence as a way of thwarting renewed negotiations altogether, Parsi said.

Last month, Iran signalled a willingness to return to a negotiating process which stalled a year ago, though Western officials say a new round of talks is far from certain yet.


SANCTIONS CAMPAIGN

Iran's decision to carry out enrichment work deep underground in the once undeclared plant at Fordow, near the holy Shi'ite city of Qom, could make it harder for U.S. or Israeli forces to carry out veiled threats to use force against Iranian nuclear facilities. The move to Fordow could reduce the time available for diplomacy to avert any attack.

The announcement on Monday that enrichment -- a necessary step to make uranium into nuclear weapons -- had begun at Fordow has given added impetus to Western efforts to impose an oil export embargo intended to pressure Tehran to halt enrichment.

Iran, a signatory to the treaty banning the spread of nuclear weapons, says it is entitled to conduct peaceful research and denies any military nuclear aims. Its adversaries say its failure to take up their offers of help with civilian technology undermine the credibility of its position.

Oil prices have firmed 5 percent since U.S. President Barack Obama moved on New Year's Eve to block bank payments for oil to Iran. The European Union is expected this month to impose a ban on its states buying oil from Tehran, and other major customers have been looking for alternative supplies.

In Iran, the new U.S. sanctions have started to bite.

The rial currency has lost 20 percent of its value against the dollar in the past week and Iran has threatened to shut the Strait of Hormuz. (Additional reporting by Parisa Hafezi, Robin Pomeroy and Mitra Amiri in Tehran, Allyn Fisher-Ilan and Dan Williams in Jerusalem, Fredrik Dahl in Vienna, Lucy Hornby in Beijing and Andrew Quinn in Washington; Writing by Alastair Macdonald Editing by Ralph Gowling)

Definitely smells highly of a continued Mossad operation....
 

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smalltime said:
Of course its not free.But what is it that we get from Isreal?And dont forget Hanta Yo the Jews dont like you Christians any better than they like the Muslims and Arabs.

In short Israel does a lot of our "dirty work" allowing us to maintain the claim of total innocence while Israel gladly takes the blame knowing there's not a camel jock around with the balls to do a dam thing about it.
 

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Sandhusker said:
smalltime said:
We get oil from the Arabs .What do we get from Isreal?

Favor from God.

:agree:

You got it right, Sandhusker. For the US of A's best interests, we need to be a close ally to Israel. Of course, Barack Hussein Obama is leading us down the path to destruction and he hasn't been very good to our ally, Israel.
 
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TexasBred said:
smalltime said:
Of course its not free.But what is it that we get from Isreal?And dont forget Hanta Yo the Jews dont like you Christians any better than they like the Muslims and Arabs.

In short Israel does a lot of our "dirty work" allowing us to maintain the claim of total innocence while Israel gladly takes the blame knowing there's not a camel jock around with the balls to do a dam thing about it.

Yep-- there is a book I have on the Mossad and their other secret agencies- and its must read...Entitled Gideon's Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad... I understand there is an updated version for the time from 1999- on- but I haven't got it yet-- but Israel will do most killing we want to keep our hands clean on---- and they do it much better than our folk do....
 

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Oldtimer said:
TexasBred said:
smalltime said:
Of course its not free.But what is it that we get from Isreal?And dont forget Hanta Yo the Jews dont like you Christians any better than they like the Muslims and Arabs.

In short Israel does a lot of our "dirty work" allowing us to maintain the claim of total innocence while Israel gladly takes the blame knowing there's not a camel jock around with the balls to do a dam thing about it.

Yep-- there is a book I have on the Mossad and their other secret agencies- and its must read...Entitled Gideon's Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad... I understand there is an updated version for the time from 1999- on- but I haven't got it yet-- but Israel will do most killing we want to keep our hands clean on---- and they do it much better than our folk do....



that's because they have a grip on reality, and not some conspiracy theory of some Sheriff in Montana to work off of........OT how is that evidence going so far, of me harassing female members of Ranchers.net?


You're a lying sack of sheep dung.........
 

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And dont forget Hanta Yo the Jews dont like you Christians any better than they like the Muslims and Arabs.

I talked to a friend of mine yesterday about that comment... and while he agreed their is some conflict between the radical hardline Jews and the radical hardline Christians.. he felt the comment really wasn't indicative of the nation overall..

and he pointed out that the Jews have lived alongside the Arabs for centuries, and the Muslims and that as citizens most live together like Protestant and Catholics do in this country..

oh on the response what has Israel done for the US...
he asked "Do I judge my friends on what I can get from them?"


I thanked the Rabi for his time and gave it some thought...

.. from an internet article..


the media largely ignores the benefits Israel has brought to the world; one of the least talked about aspects of the country is its incredible and unique contribution to science.

In terms of inventions Israelis have given the world the Uzi, the mobile phone (partly), camera chips for phones, SMS messaging and the first anti-virus software; Israel has the highest percentage of home computers per capita and the third most educated workforce on earth, with 12 per cent holding advanced degrees. The country also has more engineers and scientists per capita than any other country around the world, and has more companies quoted on the high-tech NASDAQ stock exchange than any other country outside the United States, more than all of Europe, India, and China combined.

Israelis are also at the forefront of medical research into heart transplants, strokes and Hepatitis C. Incredibly, some Israelis are even at work on a space mission, which could make that tiny state of seven million people the third country to land a probe on the Moon. Jews on the Moon? Conspiracy theorists won’t know where to start.

In the last ten years Israeli scientists have won five Noble prizes in the sciences, a tally bettered by only four other nations, while per capita Israel produces more economists than any other country.

Israel also publishes a huge number of Scientific and Technical Journal Articles, some 16,470 in 2005, more than the entire Arab world and Iran combined. And the Jewish state produces an astonishing number of inventors. Last year in the United States Israelis registered 1917 patents, just below Italy (58 million people) and the Netherlands (15 million) and way ahead of its neighbours Saudi Arabia (58) Turkey (45) Egypt (20) Kuwait (14) UAE (9) Iran (8) Lebanon (5) Jordan (1) and Syria (0). Israel itself grants 2500 patents a year, putting it in the top 20 of all countries and again more than all its neighbours combined. Israel is number one in the world for medical device patents per capita and number four for biotechnology patents per capita. And its biotechnology exports are now worth $6 billion a year.

Israel is America's only, reliable ally in the Middle East, and is the only nation there that publicly declares is support for America.

Do you remember a few months back when we were able to intercept a falling satellite and blow it out of the sky -- proving the validity of a missle defense system?

Guess who developed the technology to do that: Israel. Israel had worked jointly with the US in developing the Arrow anti-missle system as well as the Boost Phase Intercept program and the Tactical High Energy Laser program, in which a high-energy laser beam mounted on an airplane can be used to knock out incoming missles.

Oh, and do you know about our "Secure Border Initiative?" This is the latest attempt by our government to use technology to secure its borders, stop smuggling, and prevent illegal immigration. The project was thrown open to bidders around the world. What was unique about this grant proposal was that Homeland Security gave the bidders total freedom to create new ideas of how to apply both new and old technology to secure the US borders.

Guess who won the rights to build it? Who knows more about protecting its borders against terrorist attacks?

Kollsman Inc., an American subsidiary of Elbit, an Israeli company. Elbit was selected because of its ability to bring together global resources with decades of technological experience and capabilities securing borders in extreme cold, mountainous regions, as well as hot, desert terrains

There are hundreds of other technological modifications and improvements in weapons systems that Israel has supplied to American armed forces, including those operating in Iraq.

What do our other, alleged allies in the Middle East offer us?
 

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smalltime said:

since Israel is almost forced to be energy independent... they may soon give US
NG/Oil as well as the other many contributions they have already given our country..

Talk about a game changer. Last year while prospecting the aptly nqmed Leviathan Field in the waters between Israel and Cyprus, Texas based Noble Energy (NYSE: NBL) discovered a gargantuan deposit of natural gas buried a mile beneath the ocean floor and beneath an additional 20,000 feet of rock.

The Israel oil find, estimated at some 16 trillion cubic feet, is large enough that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told CNN interviewer Piers Morgan that his nation could forego building additional nuclear reactors and enjoy generations of natural energy, instead. “It is only a matter of time before Israel becomes a big gas exporter,”

But the bigger news was still to come. Harold Vinegar, formerly Royal Dutch Shell’s chief scientists and currently chief scientist for Israel Energy Initiatives (IEI), “has devised an ambitious plan that would, if successful, turn Israel into one of the world’s leading oil producers,”

Moreover, it doesn’t take a State Department analyst to realize that all things being equal, Europe will seek energy from a stable supplier, and that makes Israel’s newly discovered energy wealth a geopolitical and economic game changer.
 

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