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Oprah's Dr OZ on embryonic stem cell research

SMN Herf

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I received an email a few days ago about this and I looked up a link tonight. I know this was discussed earlier on but the mountains of evidence keeps getting higher against all the arguments for federal funding of Embryonis Stem Cell Research and the gross misreperesentations of how the Bush administration handled this issue. It appears more and more Bush handed it right considering all the progress that has been made and our current administration is putting politics in front of the science despite what he said in his speeches.

http://www.lifenews.com/bio2820.html

Doctor Mehmet Oz Tells Oprah's Audience Embryonic Stem Cell Research Debate is Dead

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
April 7, 2009

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Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A recent appearance by Dr. Mehmet Oz, a cardiovascular surgeon at Columbia University and a regular on Oprah Winfrey's popular eponymous television program, is generating buzz within pro-life circles. During the program, Oz told Americans the truth about embryonic stem cell research.

Oz made it clear that the "stem cell debate is dead" mostly in part because embryonic stem cells have yet to catch up to their adult stem cell and iPS cell counterparts.

The comments are drawing interest because Oz made them in front of the iconic television personality and embryonic stem cell research advocate Michael J. Fox who has warped and twisted the positions of pro-life advocates during previous elections.

"The problem with embryonic stem cells is that embryonic stem cells come from embryos, like all of us were made from embryos, and those cells can become any cell in the body," Oz explained.

"But it's very hard to control them and so they can become cancer," Oz added, pointing to the efficacy problems of the cells causing tumors after injection into animals during experiments.

Oz went on to talk about the new science of induced stem cells made by reverting skin and other adult stem cells into an embryonic-like state without the destruction of human life.

He said he believes researchers are within ten years of making major breakthroughs using adult stem cells, which have already helped patients with more than 100 diseases and conditions.

"I think we are single digit years away from making a big impact in the lives of Parkinson's disease (victims) but also diabetics, heart attack victims, people who have had a lot of problems," he said of the potential success of adult stem cells.

Those successes could be even sooner than Oz thinks.

In what is believed to be the nation's first such procedure, doctors in Texas were recently able to successfully use adult stem cells from a patient to treat the effects of his stroke.

Doctors removed the stem cells from the patient's bone marrow in the leg, then separated or purified the stem cells and intravenously returned them to the patient within a few hours.

Because they are the patient's own stem cells, rejection was not an issue as is the case with embryonic stem cells.
 

MoGal

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Actually the plan on down the road is to have body/organ harvesting.......... sell it on the stock market.... do you need a heart, liver or kidney....... they can grow humans in laboratories just for this purpose. Need a child?? Eventually, you won't be allowed to have children but will have one "grown" for you..... they will also be able to control the intelligence of the child, and everything about the child. Its a sick, sick new world order we have coming. This stem cell research is just part of the six step attitudinal change so we can be "conditioned" to human factories.


The university of England combined embryos from a cow and human (gives beastiality a new meaning) and it lived 3 days... do your own search on it and you'll find it. I think I saw it in the telegraph about 3 months ago.
 

MoGal

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American Doctors Have Been Harvesting Organs For Almost 20 Years

Would you be surprised to learn that American doctors and medical institutions have been quietly practicing the very deathmaking which the British are now attempting to legalize?

We recommend a great book on this subject of the New Age view of death, dying, and the harvesting of human bodies for organs. The two authors are Christian, and they have done their research well. The book is written by, Paul de Parrie, and Mary Pride, Unholy Sacrifices Of The New Age, Crossway Books, Westchester, Illinois, 1988.

And, to get the New Age viewpoint "straight from the horse's mouth", go to your library and read "Omni Magazine, Vol. 9, Sept., 1987, article entitled, 'Redefining Death: Last Rights'. But, be prepared to be simultaneously shocked and sickened.

In brief summary, the New Age proposition on organ transplants is very simple: they want to live indefinitely. Until medical science can 'solve' the 'problem' of physical death, the only conceivable way to live indefinitely is Organ Transplants. Thus, medical research, operating with huge grants from government and private sources, has poured untold millions of dollars into organ transplant research. Their success has been phenomenal, as many, many Americans are alive today because of this newly developed skill.

But, success has its price tag. This procedure has become so popular, so widely used, that, in America today, there is a lot more demand for human organs for transplant than there are organs available. This situation has lead to high, high prices for organs. And, some organs seem almost impossible to get.

At this point, the American entrepreneurial spirit entered the picture, coupled with greed and no conscience on the part of many doctors and nurses today. Working in great secrecy, doctors in many hospitals today are literally declaring their victim 'brain dead' or some other kind of 'dead', and are literally harvesting his or her organs. Listen to a portion of this Omni Magazine article. "On his back, breathing rhythmically, R.H. -- six-three, 170 pounds -- is a handsome man. Yet even as one admires the strong lines of his body, surgeons with scalpels incise the skin and muscle of his chest and abdomen with long, sure strokes. Using a small electric saw, they cleave the sternum as if it were made of balsa. There is surprisingly little blood, but there is a certain amount of disarray in the operating room (O.R.) when as many as eight doctors have their hands and arms inside the cadaver, working quickly to disconnect the organs from their many vessels ... As soon as each organ comes out, it is carefully packed in an Igloo Playmate full of dry ice and rushed to a waiting helicopter for delivery to a distant transplant team. Finally, after the major organs are removed, a blond-haired surgeon from New York's Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center ... tells the anesthetist to disconnect the I.V.'s and turn off the respirator." [Page 60]

Of course, the patient is immediately quite dead, and his body is removed. Later, a fake Death Certificate is issued, listing some cause of death that sounds plausible. This is very similar to what happened in Nazi Germany from the early 1930's to the early 1940's! Once the State became involved in the Deathmaking in Germany, doctors boldly killed people whom they declared as 'living lives unworthy of life". After the victim had been killed, they would issue fake Death Certificates. Of course, the one ingredient present in America today is that this same Nazi mentality is joined with American greed, as there is much money to be made in the harvesting of organs. Do not be deceived at this point; this coming New World Order is a planned return to Nazism in all its horror, except that this system will be global, leaving no 'neutral' country to which you might flee.

Now, you might ask, how pervasive is this 'Organ Harvesting'? Quoting from this Omni article, "But over the next 20 years, the overwhelming demand for organs may increase the pressure to simply declare the 'brain absent' dead. There is already something of a black market for buying and selling organs. If the cognitive-death definition were instituted, organ-merchandising corporations might establish enterprises beyond Wall Street's wildest insider fantasies. The world would find itself in a situation where death itself would be an industry -- an economic incentive ... Many physicians foresee the massive proliferation of 'Jefferson Institutes' devoted to harvesting organs from the 'vegetative dead'. There is no end to possible scenarios. Female vegetatives, for example, might be employed as surrogate wombs ... The vegetatives could even be mated to produce fertilized eggs or offspring ... Society has a ways to go before we set up human vegetable farms." Imagine that!! Human Vegetable Farms!! It can't get more Satanic!

But, did you catch the meaning of that last statement, "Society has a ways to go before we set up human vegetable farms"? This is a recognition on their part that the American people have not yet been sufficiently conditioned yet to accept this barbaric practice. This is why they use the effective Six Step Attitudinal Change Plan so thoroughly.

We encourage you to study this paragraph carefully, because it testifies to the truth of this coming New World Order far, far more persuasively than I could ever do. Without the Christian moral authority, which declares that all human beings are precious because they are created in the "image of God", this type of scenario is plausible, awaiting only the right set of circumstances to give it birth. Again, I say, this scenario of buying and selling human beings, of raising human beings on a farm so their organs could be harvested at the right time [just as we now do cattle] is nothing more than the humanist concept taken to its fullest extent; after all, if we are just 'advanced' animals, then we can be treated as animals.

Finally, this article states that if a person who is severely injured upon arrival at a hospital has a donor card, the hospital will give that person the very best care possible, "for your organ's sake." From this statement, I postulate a thought. A question? If a person who is severely injured arrives at a hospital, and cannot be identified, nor can anyone from Hospital Administration locate relatives, has that person just become an 'organ donor'? And, I look at those donor cards as potentially deadly. In the sentence quoted, above, after the hospital personnel have given you the best possible treatment, "for your organ's sake", might they not let you out of there without 'donating fully'? This scenario is plausible if the person cannot be identified, or relatives located.

The development of this Satanic, Neo-Nazi scenario is one of the strongest possible proofs that we are, indeed, living in the eve of the appearance of Antichrist.
 

backhoeboogie

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MoGal said:
There is already something of a black market for buying and selling organs.

That's going to be on one of Oprah's fall shows. Or was it the Jerry Springer show? Oh well, no matter, both are about the same.

The good thing about Oprah is she has everyone listening to plain old common sense with Dr. Phil. Common sense doesn't get discussed much any more. I have to give her credit for that.
 
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