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Mike said:I also think that Islam is a work of fiction by Muhammed to gain power and control of people.
Appears as though it worked on OT. :roll:
Mike said:I also think that Islam is a work of fiction by Muhammed to gain power and control of people.
Appears as though it worked on OT. :roll:
Oldtimer said:Mike said:I also think that Islam is a work of fiction by Muhammed to gain power and control of people.
Appears as though it worked on OT. :roll:
Not really... But it is interesting when you start looking at the similarities of the religions and not just the differences... Not only just the Abrahamic religions- but even some of the ancient pagan stories and myths along with the ancient Native American tribes passed down stories tie into stories or people found in the Bible...
And it appears the Islam religion and Christianity are the two that share the most names (Adam, Noah, Abraham, Jesus, Moses, Mary, Joseph, etc.) and the two that put Jesus at a high status where the Jewish religion thought of Him as a false prophet/messiah ( Islam does not recognize Him as the son of God)...
Mike said:Oldtimer said:Mike said:I also think that Islam is a work of fiction by Muhammed to gain power and control of people.
Appears as though it worked on OT. :roll:
Not really... But it is interesting when you start looking at the similarities of the religions and not just the differences... Not only just the Abrahamic religions- but even some of the ancient pagan stories and myths along with the ancient Native American tribes passed down stories tie into stories or people found in the Bible...
And it appears the Islam religion and Christianity are the two that share the most names (Adam, Noah, Abraham, Jesus, Moses, Mary, Joseph, etc.) and the two that put Jesus at a high status where the Jewish religion thought of Him as a false prophet/messiah ( Islam does not recognize Him as the son of God)...
You're a little late. Scholars have been writing about this for hundreds of years. :roll:
Mike said:I also think that Islam is a work of fiction by Muhammed to gain power and control of people.
Appears as though it worked on OT. :roll:
Mike said:I also think that Islam is a work of fiction by Muhammed to gain power and control of people.
Appears as though it worked on OT. :roll:
TexasBred said:Mike said:I also think that Islam is a work of fiction by Muhammed to gain power and control of people.
Appears as though it worked on OT. :roll:
The so-called "prophet" was nothing more than an illiterate goat herder. Needless to say his follows seem to be following in his footsteps.
Horse manure. The "stories" were written long after he was crucified, rose and ascended into heaven. He came not to write or deliver a book. He did come to establish and empower a Church.kolanuraven said:TexasBred said:Mike said:I also think that Islam is a work of fiction by Muhammed to gain power and control of people.
Appears as though it worked on OT. :roll:
The so-called "prophet" was nothing more than an illiterate goat herder. Needless to say his follows seem to be following in his footsteps.
And Jesus was just a carpenter.................. and most historians tend to agree he himself was unable to read and write.
NOTHING has ever surfaced that was written by Jesus himself.
That's why the stories were written by others and not the man himself.
TexasBred said:Horse manure. The "stories" were written long after he was crucified, rose and ascended into heaven. He came not to write or deliver a book. He did come to establish and empower a Church.kolanuraven said:TexasBred said:The so-called "prophet" was nothing more than an illiterate goat herder. Needless to say his follows seem to be following in his footsteps.
And Jesus was just a carpenter.................. and most historians tend to agree he himself was unable to read and write.
NOTHING has ever surfaced that was written by Jesus himself.
That's why the stories were written by others and not the man himself.
Numerous places in sacred scripture mention Jesus reading from the scipture. "Google" it Kola.
:wink:
kolanuraven said:TexasBred said:Horse manure. The "stories" were written long after he was crucified, rose and ascended into heaven. He came not to write or deliver a book. He did come to establish and empower a Church.kolanuraven said:And Jesus was just a carpenter.................. and most historians tend to agree he himself was unable to read and write.
NOTHING has ever surfaced that was written by Jesus himself.
That's why the stories were written by others and not the man himself.
Numerous places in sacred scripture mention Jesus reading from the scipture. "Google" it Kola.
:wink:
It's was all written by someone else. " they said he did that" " they said he did this"......HE didn't say/write ( in the 1st person) that he did anything . It all comes from others.
Get a group of people around and let them each explain to what they heard at a speech. You'll get a diff translation from each of them.....
NOTHING has ever EVER surfaced that the man penned himself.
Facts are facts and you can get snotty all you want. By the way, not very Christian of you......
kolanuraven said:TexasBred said:Horse manure. The "stories" were written long after he was crucified, rose and ascended into heaven. He came not to write or deliver a book. He did come to establish and empower a Church.kolanuraven said:And Jesus was just a carpenter.................. and most historians tend to agree he himself was unable to read and write.
NOTHING has ever surfaced that was written by Jesus himself.
That's why the stories were written by others and not the man himself.
Numerous places in sacred scripture mention Jesus reading from the scipture. "Google" it Kola.
:wink:
It's was all written by someone else. " they said he did that" " they said he did this"......HE didn't say/write ( in the 1st person) that he did anything . It all comes from others.
Get a group of people around and let them each explain to what they heard at a speech. You'll get a diff translation from each of them.....
NOTHING has ever EVER surfaced that the man penned himself.
Facts are facts and you can get snotty all you want. By the way, not very Christian of you......
TexasBred said:kolanuraven said:TexasBred said:Horse manure. The "stories" were written long after he was crucified, rose and ascended into heaven. He came not to write or deliver a book. He did come to establish and empower a Church.
Numerous places in sacred scripture mention Jesus reading from the scipture. "Google" it Kola.
:wink:
It's was all written by someone else. " they said he did that" " they said he did this"......HE didn't say/write ( in the 1st person) that he did anything . It all comes from others.
Get a group of people around and let them each explain to what they heard at a speech. You'll get a diff translation from each of them.....
NOTHING has ever EVER surfaced that the man penned himself.
Facts are facts and you can get snotty all you want. By the way, not very Christian of you......
Noone said he "penned" anything. does that make him illiterate? But those that lived WITH him tell of his actions and his words. That's enough for me. BTW Mohammed didn't "pen" a letter of the koran either. Supposedly dictated it to another goat herder. Wonder how much was Mohammed's words and how much the scribe simply wrote on his own?
kolanuraven said:TexasBred said:kolanuraven said:It's was all written by someone else. " they said he did that" " they said he did this"......HE didn't say/write ( in the 1st person) that he did anything . It all comes from others.
Get a group of people around and let them each explain to what they heard at a speech. You'll get a diff translation from each of them.....
NOTHING has ever EVER surfaced that the man penned himself.
Facts are facts and you can get snotty all you want. By the way, not very Christian of you......
Noone said he "penned" anything. does that make him illiterate? But those that lived WITH him tell of his actions and his words. That's enough for me. BTW Mohammed didn't "pen" a letter of the koran either. Supposedly dictated it to another goat herder. Wonder how much was Mohammed's words and how much the scribe simply wrote on his own?
BINGO!!!
Now you're catching on.
You see my point exactly.
We have no idea if any words written with and for ANY religion are factual. We just don't.............
kolanuraven said:Mike said:I also think that Islam is a work of fiction by Muhammed to gain power and control of people.
Appears as though it worked on OT. :roll:
ALL religions were created for control and gain power over people.
It's the reason they exist today. Yes, they have morphed over the ages and cultures but it's a pure control mechanism
kolanuraven said:And Jesus was just a carpenter.................. and most historians tend to agree he himself was unable to read and write.