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OT, how's this guy going to do for the Dems.?

hypocritexposer

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Since you were laughing at the business experience that Carly Fiorina has, I thought you might critique this guy's business experience.

Less or more than George Bush? What are his chances against Demint in Nov.?

An unemployed 32-year-old black Army veteran with no campaign funds, no signs, and no website shocked South Carolina on Tuesday night by winning the Democratic Senate primary to oppose Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC). Alvin Greene, who currently lives in his family's home, defeated Vic Rawl, a former judge and state legislator who had a $186,000 campaign warchest and had already planned his next fundraising event. Despite the odds, Greene, who has been unemployed for the past nine months, said that he wasn't surprised by his victory. "I wasn’t surprised, but not really. I mean, just a little, but not much. I knew I was on top of my campaign, and just stayed on top of everything, I just—I wasn't surprised that much, just a little. I knew that I worked hard and did," Greene said in an interview.

Greene insists that he paid the $10,400 filing fee and all other campaign expenses from his own personal funds. "It was 100 percent out of my pocket. I’m self-managed. It’s hard work, and just getting my message to supporters. I funded my campaign 100 percent out of my pocket and self-managed," said Greene, who sounded anxious and unprepared to speak to the public. But despite his lack of election funds, Greene claims to have criss-crossed the state during his campaign—though he declined to specify any of the towns or places he visited or say how much money he spent while on the road.

"It wasn’t much, I mean, just, it was—it wasn’t much. Not much, I mean, it wasn’t much," he said, when asked how much of his own money he spent in the primary. Greene frequently spoke in rapid-fire, fragmentary sentences, repeating certain phrases or interrupting himself multiple times during the same sentence while he searched for the right words. But he was emphatic about certain aspects of his candidacy, insisting that details about his campaign organization, for instance, weren't relevant. "I'm not concentrating on how I was elected—it's history. I’m the Democratic nominee—we need to get talking about America back to work, what's going on, in America."

The oddity of Greene’s candidacy has already prompted speculation from local media about whether he might be a Republican plant. But Greene denies that Republicans or anyone else had approached him about running. "No, no—no one approached me. This is my decision," he said. A 13-year military veteran, he says he had originally gotten the idea in 2008 when he was serving in Korea. "I just saw the country was in bad shape two years ago…the country was declining," he says. "I wanted to make sure we continue to go up on the right track." But when asked whether there was a specific person or circumstance that precipitated his decision to jump into politics, Greene simply replied: "nothing in particular...it's just, uh, nothing in particular." South Carolina Democratic Party Chairwoman Carol Fowler speculated that Greene won because his name appeared first on the ballot, and voters unfamiliar with both candidates chose alphabetically.

Greene has yet to speak to any Democratic officials, either. After filing to run, his campaign went dark. According to this report, he didn’t show up to the South Carolina Democratic Party convention in April and didn't file any of the required paperwork for candidates with the state or Federal Election Commission. When I spoke to him, the state’s Democrats had yet to contact him after his victory was announced.

Greene insists that he's planning to work with state and national officials to ramp up his campaign and raise money "as soon as I can." And he plans on putting his unemployment at the center of his campaign. "I’m currently one of the many unemployed in the state and this country. South Carolina has more unemployed now than at any other time," Greene says. "My campaign slogan: Let's get South Carolina back to work." He adds that he would like to see "one Korea under a democracy."

Sen. DeMint, a Tea Party darling and leader of the GOP's far-right flank, wasn't expecting a competitive challenge this election cycle. But conservative activists are already thrilled to see the Democrats' hand-picked candidate go down in flames. “Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,” tweeted Tea Party activist and Redstate blogger Erick Erickson after finding out about Greene’s victory.

Greene offered no volleys against DeMint, and he seemed to have more questions than attack lines when it came to the Tea Party. "What's the Tea Party’s position on wars in the Middle East? …I want to know the Tea Party's position on the wars in the Middle East?" he asked. But Greene says that he's excited about the prospect of taking on DeMint in the public arena: "I'm looking forward to the debate this September." DeMint and his supporters are no doubt looking forward to it too.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/06/alvin-greene-south-carolina
 

loomixguy

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AT will like him....he's already suffering from the initial stages of Tourette's. Plus, he has as much bidness experience as TWAP. He's probably even qualified to be a Justice O' Peace!
 

Steve

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The oddity of Greene’s candidacy has already prompted speculation from local media about whether he might be a Republican plant.

Greene offered no volleys against DeMint, and he seemed to have more questions than attack lines

the state’s Democrats had yet to contact him after his victory was announced.

a VET who spent his own money... to get elected..

BTW. Greene is 32.. he served 13 years.. (joined at 18?) and is now unemployed.. for 9 months... in those nine months he ran against the democratic party candidate and won...

I don't know his stand on the issues.. but we need more citizen leaders...
 

hypocritexposer

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I agree Steve. I remember Kola awhile back asking 'who you going to replace them with"

Hopefully she's seeing that there are indeed good people willing to step up.

But this statement is a little worrisome.

South Carolina Democratic Party Chairwoman Carol Fowler speculated that Greene won because his name appeared first on the ballot, and voters unfamiliar with both candidates chose alphabetically.

You would have thought the Dems. would have learned after 2008, that you need to vet a candidate.
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
I agree Steve. I remember Kola awhile back asking 'who you going to replace them with"

Hopefully she's seeing that there are indeed good people willing to step up.

But this statement is a little worrisome.

South Carolina Democratic Party Chairwoman Carol Fowler speculated that Greene won because his name appeared first on the ballot, and voters unfamiliar with both candidates chose alphabetically.

You would have thought the Dems. would have learned after 2008, that you need to vet a candidate.

the South Carolina Party chairwoman must think democratic voters are to stupid to think.. :? :?
 
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Anonymous

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When you look at SC politics- and the antics of Sanford traipsing around the world with his Argentine bimbo on taxpayers dollars- anything could happen...

I agree with Steve- maybe this is the type change - back to citizen representation - that SC needs to break up its "good old boys you slap my back, I'll cover yours" groups....
 
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Oldtimer said:
When you look at SC politics- and the antics of Sanford traipsing around the world with his Argentine bimbo on taxpayers dollars- anything could happen...

I agree with Steve- maybe this is the type change - back to citizen representation - that SC needs to break up its "good old boys you slap my back, I'll cover yours" groups....

you folks in Montana sure are lucky you have above average and legit politicians. :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
When you look at SC politics- and the antics of Sanford traipsing around the world with his Argentine bimbo on taxpayers dollars- anything could happen...

I agree with Steve- maybe this is the type change - back to citizen representation - that SC needs to break up its "good old boys you slap my back, I'll cover yours" groups....

OT, you seem to be searching for a CHANGE. Why not look at the Tea Party.

Seems the neocons and the liberals have only been showing you liberalism.

Fiscal Responsibility: Fiscal Responsibility by government honors and respects the freedom of the individual to spend the money that is the fruit of their own labor. A constitutionally limited government, designed to protect the blessings of liberty, must be fiscally responsible or it must subject its citizenry to high levels of taxation that unjustly restrict the liberty our Constitution was designed to protect. Such runaway deficit spending as we now see in Washington D.C. compels us to take action as the increasing national debt is a grave threat to our national sovereignty and the personal and economic liberty of future generations.

Constitutionally Limited Government: We, the members of The Tea Party Patriots, are inspired by our founding documents and regard the Constitution of the United States to be the supreme law of the land. We believe that it is possible to know the original intent of the government our founders set forth, and stand in support of that intent. Like the founders, we support states' rights for those powers not expressly stated in the Constitution. As the government is of the people, by the people and for the people, in all other matters we support the personal liberty of the individual, within the rule of law.

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:D
 
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Which Tea Party? There are only about a dozen or more running around claiming to be "the party"- a few of which are no better than skinheads, neonazis, and old KKKers....

How do you support something that doesn't have a real existence? In what states have the Tea Party been able to get a candidate on the ballot as such? Not a psuedo Republican- that will just mold into the Republican drumbeat when they get seated- but a true Tea Party candidate...
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
Which Tea Party? There are only about a dozen or more running around claiming to be "the party"- a few of which are no better than skinheads, neonazis, and old KKKers....

How do you support something that doesn't have a real existence? In what states have the Tea Party been able to get a candidate on the ballot as such? Not a psuedo Republican- that will just mold into the Republican drumbeat when they get seated- but a true Tea Party candidate...

I guess voting is a lost cause then. We're all doomed, it's a conspiracy theory, run for your lives.

:lol: :lol:

I think what you have to do is to do some research and investigation. Don't vote for someone just becasue it will be historical, but delve into their backgrounds, etc.

Vetting is a good thing.
 

Steve

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Which Tea Party? There are only about a dozen or more running around claiming to be "the party"- a few of which are no better than skinheads, neonazis, and old KKKers....

even several cases of democratic politicians registering as Tea Party..

as with any GRASS ROOTS organization it will need time to weed out and come together on common issues..
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Steve said:
Which Tea Party? There are only about a dozen or more running around claiming to be "the party"- a few of which are no better than skinheads, neonazis, and old KKKers....

even several cases of democratic politicians registering as Tea Party..

as with any GRASS ROOTS organization it will need time to weed out and come together on common issues..

Hey Steve the Democrats must be the "Old KKKers" OT was talking about. :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

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hypocritexposer said:
I agree Steve. I remember Kola awhile back asking 'who you going to replace them with"

Hopefully she's seeing that there are indeed good people willing to step up.

But this statement is a little worrisome.

South Carolina Democratic Party Chairwoman Carol Fowler speculated that Greene won because his name appeared first on the ballot, and voters unfamiliar with both candidates chose alphabetically.

You would have thought the Dems. would have learned after 2008, that you need to vet a candidate.


I guess not.

Sen. Nominee Was Kicked Out of Army, Has Felony Charge Pending
Alvin Greene, a Political Unknown, Faces Popular GOP Incumbent Sen. Jim DeMint

By DEVIN DWYER and STEVE OSUNSAMI
WASHINGTON, June 9, 2010—


Alvin Greene, the surprise South Carolina Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, was kicked out of the Army last year and is facing a pending felony charge, according to court records obtained by ABC News.

Greene, who has yet to enter a plea or be indicted, was arrested in November and charged with "disseminating, procuring or promoting obscenity" in Richland County, S.C., and faces up to five years in prison if convicted.

The U.S. Senate candidate was captured on video surveillance Nov. 4 trying to show "obscene photographs from a website" to a female victim on the University of South Carolina campus and go to her room without her consent, according to the affidavit.

Earlier today, the 32-year-old military veteran declined to discuss the incident with ABC News during an interview at his home in Manning.

Greene has been unemployed and living in his rural hometown 60 miles south of Columbia since August, when he was involuntarily forced out of the Army after a 13 year career because "things just weren't working& it was hard to say." He had served as an intelligence specialist in the Air Force and later as a unit supply specialist in the Army.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2010_Elections/alvin-greene-surprise-win-south-carolina-primary-felony/story?id=10867602


hypocritexposer said:
I think what you have to do is to do some research and investigation. Don't vote for someone just becasue it will be historical, but delve into their backgrounds, etc.

Vetting is a good thing.

Don't worry OT, I'll keep an eye on things for you. :wink:
 
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Steve said:
Which Tea Party? There are only about a dozen or more running around claiming to be "the party"- a few of which are no better than skinheads, neonazis, and old KKKers....

even several cases of democratic politicians registering as Tea Party..

as with any GRASS ROOTS organization it will need time to weed out and come together on common issues..

But how long will these common issues be the issue? If things start floating right- and Congress passes another illegals Amnesty bill- which will happen (US Chamber of Commerce/US major industry- and the Dems that want all the new Dem voters will force it), so a major part of the racial issue of the ********* is shot down--- and the economy starts coming back-- which will happen--- what will the teabaggers that have been standing on the corners and putting up posters calling everyone else "niggars' while flying upside down distress flags (which even upsets retired veterans of the military when challenged them on it) DO..... Right now they are riding a hype of 20 groups that profess to be Teabaggers ( and I use the word because again today I met with several local strong Republicans- that used the same wording- and when told the supposed negative connotations around it were shocked by it/ and had never heard of it....)
I guess we don't live in the same label world the rest does.... :wink: :D

Folks around here are still judged by what they do- and the life they live- and not who they politically support- or who they may have for lifetime mate- or what they do in their bedrooms.......
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
Which Tea Party? There are only about a dozen or more running around claiming to be "the party"- a few of which are no better than skinheads, neonazis, and old KKKers....

even several cases of democratic politicians registering as Tea Party..

as with any GRASS ROOTS organization it will need time to weed out and come together on common issues..

But how long will these common issues be the issue? If things start floating right- and Congress passes another illegals Amnesty bill- which will happen (US Chamber of Commerce/US major industry- and the Dems that want all the new Dem voters will force it), so a major part of the racial issue of the ********* is shot down--- and the economy starts coming back-- which will happen--- what will the teabaggers that have been standing on the corners and putting up posters calling everyone else "niggars' while flying upside down distress flags (which even upsets retired veterans of the military when challenged them on it) DO..... Right now they are riding a hype of 20 groups that profess to be Teabaggers ( and I use the word because again today I met with several local strong Republicans- that used the same wording- and when told the supposed negative connotations around it were shocked by it/ and had never heard of it....)
I guess we don't live in the same label world the rest does.... :wink: :D

Folks around here are still judged by what they do- and the life they live- and not who they politically support- or who they may have for lifetime mate- or what they do in their bedrooms.......


Is that why you didn't get re elected too much teabagging instead of TEA BAGING?
your 6000 voters in Valley County MT found about your secret desires :wink: :wink: :wink: and asked you not to run again, and the "tap tap tap" in the court house rest room cornered someone into appointing you to be a J.P. as a result :wink: :wink: :wink:
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
Which Tea Party? There are only about a dozen or more running around claiming to be "the party"- a few of which are no better than skinheads, neonazis, and old KKKers....

even several cases of democratic politicians registering as Tea Party..

as with any GRASS ROOTS organization it will need time to weed out and come together on common issues..

But how long will these common issues be the issue? If things start floating right- and Congress passes another illegals Amnesty bill- which will happen (US Chamber of Commerce/US major industry- and the Dems that want all the new Dem voters will force it), so a major part of the racial issue of the ********* is shot down--- and the economy starts coming back-- which will happen--- what will the teabaggers that have been standing on the corners and putting up posters calling everyone else "niggars' while flying upside down distress flags (which even upsets retired veterans of the military when challenged them on it) DO..... Right now they are riding a hype of 20 groups that profess to be Teabaggers ( and I use the word because again today I met with several local strong Republicans- that used the same wording- and when told the supposed negative connotations around it were shocked by it/ and had never heard of it....)
I guess we don't live in the same label world the rest does.... :wink: :D


Folks around here are still judged by what they do- and the life they live- and not who they politically support- or who they may have for lifetime mate- or what they do in their bedrooms.......

yep.. and your post doesn't speak well for you...
 
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Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
even several cases of democratic politicians registering as Tea Party..

as with any GRASS ROOTS organization it will need time to weed out and come together on common issues..

But how long will these common issues be the issue? If things start floating right- and Congress passes another illegals Amnesty bill- which will happen (US Chamber of Commerce/US major industry- and the Dems that want all the new Dem voters will force it), so a major part of the racial issue of the ********* is shot down--- and the economy starts coming back-- which will happen--- what will the teabaggers that have been standing on the corners and putting up posters calling everyone else "niggars' while flying upside down distress flags (which even upsets retired veterans of the military when challenged them on it) DO..... Right now they are riding a hype of 20 groups that profess to be Teabaggers ( and I use the word because again today I met with several local strong Republicans- that used the same wording- and when told the supposed negative connotations around it were shocked by it/ and had never heard of it....)
I guess we don't live in the same label world the rest does.... :wink: :D


Folks around here are still judged by what they do- and the life they live- and not who they politically support- or who they may have for lifetime mate- or what they do in their bedrooms.......

yep.. and your post doesn't speak well for you...[/quote]

Out of the keyboard of a man who professes to not take personal shots.

:cry: :cry: :cry:
 
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