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OT this is in SE Montana...what do you think should be done?

ranch hand

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To President Barack Obama,

My father, Harold Patterson, will be 99 years old on August 8, 2014. He has worked his entire life, paid his taxes, paid into Social Security and Medicare from the inception of these two agencies. He has never been in trouble with the law, in fact I do not think he has ever had a traffic ticket. He has always been there to help others when they needed help. He now finds himself in need of help to take care of him as he prepares to join Mom in Heaven. Guess what? There is no funding to help take care of him. The hospital can only admit him as a patient for 48 hours and then has to transfer him to respite care which he has to pay for out of his pocket. He cannot go to the nursing home, apply for Medicade and be taken care of because there is no bed for him so he has to stay on the hospital side. I have taken care of both of my parents for the last six years and I have tried my best to give them the best possible care in their final years. Not once did Medicare step up and give me an hour of Respite care so I could make a doctor appointment for my self. I am on Total Permanent Disability and can not lift him.
You have put the rights of illegal aliens, crossing the border into the US before the rights of those, who have paid their way for their entire lifetime. Dad gets $1327.00 a month. It costs $166 per day for Respite Care which means he can stay in the hospital for 7.9 days out of the month. How do I pay for the other 23.1 days? Dad has a bladder infection and a lung infection, complicated by a mass in his chest. He is 99 years old! Should we take heroic measures, put him through a major surgery (which I highly doubt he will survive), because Medicare will pay for that, or just let him peacefully pass away, without any extreme intervention? Or better yet, should I become David Kevorkian and assist my Dad in suicide?
Under Medicare part D my Dad pays $200 per month for his Junivia and my son-in-law pays only a $10 Copay for the same drug. Under Obamacare we are gouging our elderly and giving them less than acceptable health care!!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:27 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Travel to a third world country and spend a little time there. You'll get your eyes opened up.

Health insurance in the Philippines, more specifically in the countryside, aka the province, is basically nonexistent. The population of the Philippines essentially have three inalienable rights. They have the right to screw, to starve, and to die. Get sick? You pay the doctor BEFORE he sees you. In the hospital? You pay up every day you are there. Can't pay? You have to leave. Want food or sheets or blankets or a pillow while in the hospital? Better have a relative bring them, cause the hospital won't provide them. Need meds or a scrip filled? You pay up front.

Harsh? Yeah. But reality dictates that the country can't afford millions of deadbeats on the government tit. People and especially children & infants die. It's a fact of life. My wife had two older siblings who died as infants. My SIL lost her firstborn as an infant. But, the wife's one grandmother lived to 105 and never saw a doctor once in her life. The other one hit 90 recently and doctors some, but her surviving children foot the bill all that they can.

Bottom line, IMHO, health insurance is NOT an entitlement. If you can pay the premium, fine. If you can't, well...too bad.


Here is a response from a rightwingernut on how medical care should be handled... I don't agree with it...
With my mother luckily before her stroke she had enough sense of responsibility to buy extended nursing care insurance which paid for much of it- BUT the hospital had to do the same with her- transferring her back and forth between the hospital and respite care for awhile... We also cared for her at home for as long as we possibly could with both of us working until a room became available...
Many often have to look toward nursing home facilities out of the area until a local one becomes available...

Definitely need some investment in the long term care and nursing home part of the medical field... Last I saw - with the aging Baby Boomers- geriatrics was the fastest growing field in the country...
 

Whitewing

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ranch hand said:
To President Barack Obama,

My father, Harold Patterson, will be 99 years old on August 8, 2014. He has worked his entire life, paid his taxes, paid into Social Security and Medicare from the inception of these two agencies. He has never been in trouble with the law, in fact I do not think he has ever had a traffic ticket. He has always been there to help others when they needed help. He now finds himself in need of help to take care of him as he prepares to join Mom in Heaven. Guess what? There is no funding to help take care of him. The hospital can only admit him as a patient for 48 hours and then has to transfer him to respite care which he has to pay for out of his pocket. He cannot go to the nursing home, apply for Medicade and be taken care of because there is no bed for him so he has to stay on the hospital side. I have taken care of both of my parents for the last six years and I have tried my best to give them the best possible care in their final years. Not once did Medicare step up and give me an hour of Respite care so I could make a doctor appointment for my self. I am on Total Permanent Disability and can not lift him.
You have put the rights of illegal aliens, crossing the border into the US before the rights of those, who have paid their way for their entire lifetime. Dad gets $1327.00 a month. It costs $166 per day for Respite Care which means he can stay in the hospital for 7.9 days out of the month. How do I pay for the other 23.1 days? Dad has a bladder infection and a lung infection, complicated by a mass in his chest. He is 99 years old! Should we take heroic measures, put him through a major surgery (which I highly doubt he will survive), because Medicare will pay for that, or just let him peacefully pass away, without any extreme intervention? Or better yet, should I become David Kevorkian and assist my Dad in suicide?
Under Medicare part D my Dad pays $200 per month for his Junivia and my son-in-law pays only a $10 Copay for the same drug. Under Obamacare we are gouging our elderly and giving them less than acceptable health care!!

Put Dad behind the wheel of an automobile and drive him into a bridge abutment. OT and the local coroner will suspect suicide, but to save the family some pain, suffering, and embarrassment, and allow them to commit insurance fraud, they'll call it an accident.

It's worked in the past, I'm sure it'll work again.
 

hypocritexposer

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Whitewing said:
hopalong said:
admitted by a past coroner from Valley county :wink: :wink:

Was he coroner too? I thought he was local sheriff, superman, and mr. rogers all rolled into one. :???:

He's covered for many, on their days off. Probably not around today, cause he is off directionally drilling, or casing a hole.
 
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