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Mike

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Doesn't every one here just love those words by Teddy Roosevelt?

Well, guess what. He was an aristocratic, wealthy, Republican that really never had to work a day in his life.

Tell you something? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Mike said:
Doesn't every one here just love those words by Teddy Roosevelt?

Well, guess what. He was an aristocratic, wealthy, Republican that really never had to work a day in his life.

Tell you something? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So you don't consider ranching in the Missouri Breaks (ran two ranchs) of Dakota territory work..... :???:
I'll bet you couldn't survive one winter there in this day and age even :roll: :p :lol:
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Doesn't every one here just love those words by Teddy Roosevelt?

Well, guess what. He was an aristocratic, wealthy, Republican that really never had to work a day in his life.

Tell you something? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So you don't consider ranching in the Missouri Breaks (ran two ranchs) of Dakota territory work..... :???:
I'll bet you couldn't survive one winter there in this day and age even :roll: :p :lol:

I have lived in the Arctic. Barrow, to be exact.................

If you'll read the damned post you'll see that I said he NEVER REALLY HAD TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I didn't say he didn't. :roll:

He worked because he enjoyed it. How's that for a RICH ARISTOCRATIC REPUBLICAN?

See how stupid you are? A yes or no answer will do. :roll:
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Doesn't every one here just love those words by Teddy Roosevelt?

Well, guess what. He was an aristocratic, wealthy, Republican that really never had to work a day in his life.

Tell you something? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So you don't consider ranching in the Missouri Breaks (ran two ranchs) of Dakota territory work..... :???:
I'll bet you couldn't survive one winter there in this day and age even :roll: :p :lol:

GW has a ranch as well, yet you often comment that he hasn't done much in business.. is there really a difference?
 

MsSage

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Oldtimer said:
I'll bet you couldn't survive one winter there in this day and age even :roll: :p :lol:

You cant just discuss the facts, You always have add in a personal attack........ :roll:
 

hopalong

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Actually He may have lived on one of his two ranches but had very little to do with the day to day operation of either, Chosing instead to hire rance managers and spend most of his time writing bookd and such. ccasionally going out to hunt when the weather permitted!

Yea such is the life of a rich man, setting in his libary writting and letting the ranch be run by mqanagers
Good way to RUN a ranch EH?



1883-1884 Establishes two cattle ranches, Maltese Cross and Elkhorn, near Medora, Dakota Territory (in region now part of North Dakota).

1884-1886 Ranchman in the badlands of the Dakota

1887 TR and Edith Roosevelt took up residence at Sagamore Hill. They eventually have five children: Theodore (1887), Kermit (1889), Ethel Carow (1891), Archibald Bulloch (1894), Quentin (1897). Territory.
1885 Publishes Hunting Trips of a Ranchman


EH?
 

jingo2

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MsSage said:
Oldtimer said:
I'll bet you couldn't survive one winter there in this day and age even :roll: :p :lol:

You cant just discuss the facts, You always have add in a personal attack........ :roll:


Well now missy....why don't you chime in and call down the ' thunder' on this Mike and Hopalong posters? Hmmmmmm?????
 

hopalong

Well-known member
jingo2 said:
MsSage said:
Oldtimer said:
I'll bet you couldn't survive one winter there in this day and age even :roll: :p :lol:

You cant just discuss the facts, You always have add in a personal attack........ :roll:


Well now missy....why don't you chime in and call down the ' thunder' on this Mike and Hopalong posters? Hmmmmmm?????

You claim to be a moderator, why don't you admonish us if we are that bad kojingo! :wink: :wink:

Personally I liked you old avitar better looked more like I imagined you would look :D :D
 

MsSage

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I have said many times to many different posters to stop the personal attacks.

But then, I also have said, as a moderator on this forum they should be held to a higher standard. Their job is to KEEP PEACE and to quell any disagreements before they get out of hand.
 

Clarencen

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As president, Theo Roosevelt did do some good things. He deserves credit for these and I am willing to give it to him. but as a rancher, he was a failure and a phoney. He spent $80,000 to start ranching and ended up losing $16,000. Old four-eyes was not respected very much by the cowboys and ranchers in the area. Only after he became famous did they want to claim they knew him.

He came to North Dakota to shoot buffalo, the last herd in the US. He wanted a part of that while they still lasted. When he got there he begin to see that the rugged land built character that the plush living in New York did not. He wanted to pretend to be a part of that. He learned to respect men who were willing to do hard work and that appreciated what little they did have. It turned his attitude around.

I have read some of his writing. His story about someone stealing his boat is about as phoney as he gets. A rich man going to so much trouble for just a cheap boat.
 

Bullhauler

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MsSage said:
Oldtimer said:
I'll bet you couldn't survive one winter there in this day and age even :roll: :p :lol:

You cant just discuss the facts, You always have add in a personal attack........ :roll:


Dang the whole thread was started as a personal attack. Mike never answers without one and neither does hoppy. Take off your right-wing blinders and see what is really going on.
 

Mike

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Dang the whole thread was started as a personal attack.

If I wanted to attack him personally, I'm loaded for bear..............

I'm only showing how hypocritical he is in his warped postings..........
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
Dang the whole thread was started as a personal attack.

If I wanted to attack him personally, I'm loaded for bear..............

I'm only showing how hypocritical he is in his warped postings..........

Well folks nationwide have consistently rated old Teddy in the top 10 most influential and popular Presidents-- and if you have to attack him to attack me, it makes me feel quite special.... :D
The other President that I respect for his influence and accomplishments is also in the top 10- Dwight D. Eisenhower....
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Dang the whole thread was started as a personal attack.

If I wanted to attack him personally, I'm loaded for bear..............

I'm only showing how hypocritical he is in his warped postings..........

Well folks nationwide have consistently rated old Teddy in the top 10 most influential and popular Presidents-- and if you have to attack him to attack me, it makes me feel quite special.... :D
The other President that I respect for his influence and accomplishments is also in the top 10- Dwight D. Eisenhower....


The Rewriting of history tends to have that affect, but it doesn't help the present situation out when trying to improve things.


Seems even obama is starting to have second thoughts about "progressive" economical thinking.

Now, I think the history of anti-poverty efforts is, is that the most important anti-poverty effort is growing the economy and making sure there are enough jobs out there -- single most important thing we can do. It's more important than any program we could set up. It's more important than any transfer payment that we could have. If we can grow the economy faster and create more jobs, then everybody is swept up into that virtuous cycle.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/obama_the_supplysider.html
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Dang the whole thread was started as a personal attack.

If I wanted to attack him personally, I'm loaded for bear..............

I'm only showing how hypocritical he is in his warped postings..........

Well folks nationwide have consistently rated old Teddy in the top 10 most influential and popular Presidents-- and if you have to attack him to attack me, it makes me feel quite special.... :D
The other President that I respect for his influence and accomplishments is also in the top 10- Dwight D. Eisenhower....

You have missed the point again, Einstein. I didn't attack TR. :roll:

I was showing how hypocritical you are by admiring a "Rich" Republican Aristocrat, yet denigrate every other one of them in every post you make just because he feels the way you do about corporations. But that was a different time and era.

No need to feel special. You aren't. You're just an ordinary dumbass Progressive Liberal...............................
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
If I wanted to attack him personally, I'm loaded for bear..............

I'm only showing how hypocritical he is in his warped postings..........

Well folks nationwide have consistently rated old Teddy in the top 10 most influential and popular Presidents-- and if you have to attack him to attack me, it makes me feel quite special.... :D
The other President that I respect for his influence and accomplishments is also in the top 10- Dwight D. Eisenhower....


The Rewriting of history tends to have that affect, but it doesn't help the present situation out when trying to improve things.

Or could it be that history has shown the benefits of their administrations and accomplishments? Many of the issues they attacked head on- and projects they took on were very unpopular at the time they were doing it- but years later have been shown to have been very smart moves....

Too bad old GW didn't take some lessons from Teddy and enforce anti-trust laws- and we wouldn't have had the "too big to fails" he had to bail out- and may have avoided the Bush Bust....
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
Well folks nationwide have consistently rated old Teddy in the top 10 most influential and popular Presidents-- and if you have to attack him to attack me, it makes me feel quite special.... :D
The other President that I respect for his influence and accomplishments is also in the top 10- Dwight D. Eisenhower....


The Rewriting of history tends to have that affect, but it doesn't help the present situation out when trying to improve things.

Or could it be that history has shown the benefits of their administrations and accomplishments? Many of the issues they attacked head on- and projects they took on were very unpopular at the time they were doing it- but years later have been shown to have been very smart moves....

Too bad old GW didn't take some lessons from Teddy and enforce anti-trust laws- and we wouldn't have had the "too big to fails" he had to bail out- and may have avoided the Bush Bust....


blah Bush, blah Bush, blah Bush


Reid gets pushback on dairy commercial
Posted by Steve Tetreault
Friday, Sep. 10, 2010 at 03:45 PM

Sen. Harry Reid is getting some pushback on his most recent TV commercial, the one in which he is credited with saving jobs at Anderson Dairy in Las Vegas.

In the commercial, Anderson chief David Coon says, "Federal regulations were driving us out of business. There was a lot of worry in the faces of our employees." The dairy employed 130 people.

But Reid in 2006 changed the dairy law "so that Anderson could compete. And save the jobs," according to the ad. And Coon says: "Because of Senator Reid, we continue to stay in business."

The law exempted Nevada dairy processors from federal raw milk pricing rules, in the process making permanent an exemption Reid had obtained in 1999 for Las Vegas, where Anderson Dairy was the only bottler.

But Ed Goedhart, a manager at Ponderosa Dairy at Amargosa Valley, and a Republican assemblyman, says the commercial tells only part of the story. While the exemption has been beneficial for Anderson Dairy because it does not have to pay federally regulated prices for raw milk, it has been less so for Nevada dairy farmers who raise and milk the cows.

"When Sen. Reid carved out an exemption for Anderson Dairy – which, by the way, milks no cows – he allowed cheaper ‘overbase’ milk – drinking milk produced in excess of government caps – to flow into Nevada from California, Arizona and Utah, which allows Anderson Dairy to pad their profit margin," Goedhart said in statement in a response to the commercial.

"That’s a great deal for Anderson Dairy; however, Ponderosa Dairy – an actual production dairy, not a processing-only dairy – now has to truck its milk all the way to California in order to get the full “Class 1” allowable price for drinking milk. Then some of our same trucks pick up cheap overbase milk from California and bring it to Anderson Dairy in Las Vegas.

"Ponderosa Dairy now has to ship its milk to California, while California ships its cheaper overbase milk to Nevada. We call it the ‘milk loop’ – and it eats up over a million gallons of diesel fuel, costing us millions of dollars a year in higher trucking costs. The Ponderosa is only 80 miles from Las Vegas, but now we have to ship our milk 280 miles to southern California," Goedhart said.

"If (Anderson Dairy) was not exempted out of the milk marketing order, we could have put my trucks right down to Las Vegas," Goedhart said Friday. The price of milk at the supermarket, he said, is no cheaper in Las Vegas than it is in California or Utah as a result of the government action.

Ponderosa milks more than 9,000 cows, making it the largest dairy in Nevada. Goedhart said the dairy set aside any thought to expand instate and instead has invested over $100 million in Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas dairies over the past eight years.

"When a rock is thrown into a pond, don’t look at just the splash," Goedhart said. "Also look at the ripples that extend across the entire pond. In this case, the jobs ‘saved’ at Anderson Dairy were at the expense of thousands of other jobs in Nevada."
 

jingo2

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hopalong said:
jingo2 said:
MsSage said:
You cant just discuss the facts, You always have add in a personal attack........ :roll:


Well now missy....why don't you chime in and call down the ' thunder' on this Mike and Hopalong posters? Hmmmmmm?????

You claim to be a moderator, why don't you admonish us if we are that bad kojingo! :wink: :wink:

Personally I liked you old avitar better looked more like I imagined you would look :D :D


Well, for one I'm NOT a moderator and don't know where you got that idea...... or where you get any of your ideas to be honest.

It just seems that the people who deem themselves the ' holy' ones are a bit one sided on who they condem and who they worship here on this site.
 
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