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Overheard from a conversation of two US businessmen:

Tam

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beethoven said:
US politics is like driving a car: Put it in D, u go forward;

Put in R, you go in reverse

I would think that if there is a CANYON of debt in front of you like the Dems have drove the car up to, the best and only sensible thing to do is put the car in reverse, back away from the canyon and drive in a different direction to see if there is a road to the other side that will not kill everyone on board the car. :wink:
 

beethoven

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Tam i have more confidence in canadian conservatives than i do in american republicans.

why are our conservatives blue and american republicans are red?
 

Tam

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beethoven said:
Tam i have more confidence in canadian conservatives than i do in american republicans.

why are our conservatives blue and american republicans are red?

Why does it matter what color they are. As long as they are for smaller government, controling the deficit and for personal freedoms, I don't care what the party colors are. :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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beethoven said:
Tam i have more confidence in canadian conservatives than i do in american republicans.

why are our conservatives blue and american republicans are red?

Conservative blue goes back to Tory Blue in England.

The blue and Red in the US was to differentiate between the parties on an electoral map.

They didn't really associate with Red until about 2000, I believe.
 

beethoven

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yes ofcourse tory blue, and i wonder just why republicans chose the red. hadnt realized it was so recent.

thank you always.
 

Steve

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i wonder just why republicans chose the red.

more then likely it was the media who chose the colors...

Before the 2000 presidential election, there was no universally recognized color scheme to represent the political parties in the United States. In fact, the color scheme was often reversed, in line with historical European associations (red was used for left-leaning parties)

in the 1960s, and nearly ubiquitous with the advent of color in newspapers. A three-color scheme, red, white and blue, the colors of the U.S. flag, makes sense, as the third color, white, is useful in depicting maps showing states that are "undecided" in the polls and in election-night television coverage.

Early on, some channels used a scheme of red for Democrats and blue for Republicans. The first television news network to use colors to depict the states won by presidential candidates was NBC. In 1976, John Chancellor, the anchorman for NBC Nightly News, asked his network's engineers to construct a large electronic map of the USA. The map was placed in the network's election-night news studio. If Jimmy Carter, the Democratic candidate that year, won a state, it would light up in red; if Gerald Ford, the Republican, carried a state, it would light up in blue.

In the days following the protracted 2000 election, major media outlets began conforming to the same color scheme because the electoral map was continually in view, and conformity made for easy and instant viewer comprehension. On Election Night that year, there was no coordinated effort to code Democratic states blue and Republican states red; the association gradually emerged. Partly as a result of this eventual and near-universal color-coding, the terms "red states" and "blue states" entered popular usage in the weeks following the 2000 presidential election. After the results were final, journalists stuck with the color scheme, as The Atlantic's December 2001 cover story by David Brooks entitled, "One Nation, Slightly Divisible", illustrated.[12] Thus, red and blue became fixed in the media and in many people's minds, despite the fact that no "official" color choices had been made by the parties.

The choice of colors in this divide appears counter-intuitive to many observers, as in many countries, red is often associated with left-of-center parties, while blue is used to depict conservative parties

so in reality when left to the parties.. republicans have used blue,.. and referred to the left as red... until the media reported otherwise....
 

DustDevil

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Steve said:
i wonder just why republicans chose the red.

more then likely it was the media who chose the colors...

Before the 2000 presidential election, there was no universally recognized color scheme to represent the political parties in the United States. In fact, the color scheme was often reversed, in line with historical European associations (red was used for left-leaning parties)

in the 1960s, and nearly ubiquitous with the advent of color in newspapers. A three-color scheme, red, white and blue, the colors of the U.S. flag, makes sense, as the third color, white, is useful in depicting maps showing states that are "undecided" in the polls and in election-night television coverage.

Early on, some channels used a scheme of red for Democrats and blue for Republicans. The first television news network to use colors to depict the states won by presidential candidates was NBC. In 1976, John Chancellor, the anchorman for NBC Nightly News, asked his network's engineers to construct a large electronic map of the USA. The map was placed in the network's election-night news studio. If Jimmy Carter, the Democratic candidate that year, won a state, it would light up in red; if Gerald Ford, the Republican, carried a state, it would light up in blue.

In the days following the protracted 2000 election, major media outlets began conforming to the same color scheme because the electoral map was continually in view, and conformity made for easy and instant viewer comprehension. On Election Night that year, there was no coordinated effort to code Democratic states blue and Republican states red; the association gradually emerged. Partly as a result of this eventual and near-universal color-coding, the terms "red states" and "blue states" entered popular usage in the weeks following the 2000 presidential election. After the results were final, journalists stuck with the color scheme, as The Atlantic's December 2001 cover story by David Brooks entitled, "One Nation, Slightly Divisible", illustrated.[12] Thus, red and blue became fixed in the media and in many people's minds, despite the fact that no "official" color choices had been made by the parties.

The choice of colors in this divide appears counter-intuitive to many observers, as in many countries, red is often associated with left-of-center parties, while blue is used to depict conservative parties

so in reality when left to the parties.. republicans have used blue,.. and referred to the left as red... until the media reported otherwise....

Our "major" news media chose sides a long time ago. It seemed bass-ackwards to me when they did it but I always thought it was just to help shape a negative opinion against Republicans/Conservatives.
 
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