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Palin Argues For Choice

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Anonymous

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Sister Sarah did a good job (unknowingly) explaining how she used her right to choose and make personal decisions about her body and how she lives her life--BUT while at the same time saying she doesn't think anyone else should have that right- and that everyone elses personal decisions should be dictated to them by the government and a bunch of old grey haired men in Washington....

Hey Hypocitexposer-- what do you call that :???: :wink: :p

Palin's Personal Choice


By Ruth Marcus
Monday, April 20, 2009

I'd like to thank Sarah Palin for her bravery in explaining the importance of a woman's right to choose. Even braver, the Alaska governor made her eloquent case for choice at a right-to-life fundraising dinner.



Palin Says She Weighed Abortion

That was not, of course, Palin's intention in revealing that she momentarily considered having an abortion. Twice, actually
-- once when she discovered she would be a mother at 44, again several weeks later when she discovered that her baby would have Down syndrome.

I'll quote Palin at length, partly because I want readers to see that I'm not taking her remarks out of context, even more because the account of her anguished choice about whether to "change the circumstances" is so gripping and so genuine. Instead of the Tina Fey caricature, we see a flesh-and-blood woman whose moral certainties are being put to a real-world test:

"I had found out that I was pregnant while out of state first, at an oil and gas conference. While out of state, there just for a fleeting moment, wow, I knew, nobody knows me here, nobody would ever know. I thought, wow, it is easy, could be easy to think, maybe, of trying to change the circumstances. No one would know. No one would ever know.

"Then when my amniocentesis results came back, showing what they called abnormalities. Oh, dear God, I knew, I had instantly an understanding for that fleeting moment why someone would believe it could seem possible to change those circumstances. Just make it all go away and get some normalcy back in life. Just take care of it. Because at the time only my doctor knew the results, Todd didn't even know. No one would know. But I would know. First, I thought how in the world could we manage a change of this magnitude. I was a very busy governor with four busy kids and a husband with a job hundreds of miles away up on the North Slope oil fields. And, oh, the criticism that I knew was coming. Plus, I was old . . .


"So we went through some things a year ago that now lets me understand a woman's, a girl's temptation to maybe try to make it all go away if she has been influenced by society to believe that she's not strong enough or smart enough or equipped enough or convenienced enough to make the choice to let the child live. I do understand what these women, what these girls go through in that thought process."

Except that, of course, if it were up to Palin, women would have no thought process to go through. The "good decision to choose life," as she put it, would be no decision at all, because abortion would not be an option.

This is not a particularly complex point, but it is one toward which Palin seems deliberately obtuse. It came up at the Republican convention last summer, when the Palins issued a statement about their daughter's pregnancy: "We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby." Again, in the world according to Palin, there would be no decision at all. Abortion would be illegal except to save the life of the mother.

I respect Palin's decision not to "make it all go away." She describes her doubts about whether she had the fortitude and patience to cope with a child with Down syndrome, and, with the force of a mother's fierce love, the special blessing that Trig has brought to her life. She speaks as someone who is confident that she made the correct choice.

For her. In fact, the overwhelming majority of couples choose to terminate pregnancies when prenatal testing shows severe abnormalities. In cases of Down syndrome, the abortion rate is as high as 90 percent.

For the crowd listening to her at last week's dinner, Palin's disclosure served the comfortable role of moral reinforcement: She wavered in her faith, was tempted to sin, regained her strength and emerged better for it.

As for those us less certain that we know, or are equipped to instruct others, when life begins and when it is permissible to terminate a pregnancy, Palin's speech offered a different lesson: Abortion is a personal issue and a personal choice. The government has no business taking that difficult decision away from those who must live with the consequences.

[email protected]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/19/AR2009041901997.html?wpisrc=newsletter
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
Sister Sarah did a good job (unknowingly) explaining how she used her right to choose and make personal decisions about her body and how she lives her life--BUT while at the same time saying she doesn't think anyone else should have that right- and that everyone elses personal decisions should be dictated to them by the government and a bunch of old grey haired men in Washington....

Hey Hypocitexposer-- what do you call that :???: :wink: :p

Palin's Personal Choice


By Ruth Marcus
Monday, April 20, 2009

I'd like to thank Sarah Palin for her bravery in explaining the importance of a woman's right to choose. Even braver, the Alaska governor made her eloquent case for choice at a right-to-life fundraising dinner.



Palin Says She Weighed Abortion

That was not, of course, Palin's intention in revealing that she momentarily considered having an abortion. Twice, actually
-- once when she discovered she would be a mother at 44, again several weeks later when she discovered that her baby would have Down syndrome.

I'll quote Palin at length, partly because I want readers to see that I'm not taking her remarks out of context, even more because the account of her anguished choice about whether to "change the circumstances" is so gripping and so genuine. Instead of the Tina Fey caricature, we see a flesh-and-blood woman whose moral certainties are being put to a real-world test:

"I had found out that I was pregnant while out of state first, at an oil and gas conference. While out of state, there just for a fleeting moment, wow, I knew, nobody knows me here, nobody would ever know. I thought, wow, it is easy, could be easy to think, maybe, of trying to change the circumstances. No one would know. No one would ever know.

"Then when my amniocentesis results came back, showing what they called abnormalities. Oh, dear God, I knew, I had instantly an understanding for that fleeting moment why someone would believe it could seem possible to change those circumstances. Just make it all go away and get some normalcy back in life. Just take care of it. Because at the time only my doctor knew the results, Todd didn't even know. No one would know. But I would know. First, I thought how in the world could we manage a change of this magnitude. I was a very busy governor with four busy kids and a husband with a job hundreds of miles away up on the North Slope oil fields. And, oh, the criticism that I knew was coming. Plus, I was old . . .


"So we went through some things a year ago that now lets me understand a woman's, a girl's temptation to maybe try to make it all go away if she has been influenced by society to believe that she's not strong enough or smart enough or equipped enough or convenienced enough to make the choice to let the child live. I do understand what these women, what these girls go through in that thought process."

Except that, of course, if it were up to Palin, women would have no thought process to go through. The "good decision to choose life," as she put it, would be no decision at all, because abortion would not be an option.

This is not a particularly complex point, but it is one toward which Palin seems deliberately obtuse. It came up at the Republican convention last summer, when the Palins issued a statement about their daughter's pregnancy: "We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby." Again, in the world according to Palin, there would be no decision at all. Abortion would be illegal except to save the life of the mother.

I respect Palin's decision not to "make it all go away." She describes her doubts about whether she had the fortitude and patience to cope with a child with Down syndrome, and, with the force of a mother's fierce love, the special blessing that Trig has brought to her life. She speaks as someone who is confident that she made the correct choice.

For her. In fact, the overwhelming majority of couples choose to terminate pregnancies when prenatal testing shows severe abnormalities. In cases of Down syndrome, the abortion rate is as high as 90 percent.

For the crowd listening to her at last week's dinner, Palin's disclosure served the comfortable role of moral reinforcement: She wavered in her faith, was tempted to sin, regained her strength and emerged better for it.

As for those us less certain that we know, or are equipped to instruct others, when life begins and when it is permissible to terminate a pregnancy, Palin's speech offered a different lesson: Abortion is a personal issue and a personal choice. The government has no business taking that difficult decision away from those who must live with the consequences.

[email protected]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/19/AR2009041901997.html?wpisrc=newsletter

I'll have to wait until midnight, I think I've hit my daily limit of posts!
 

hypocritexposer

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No but really.

I think she realizes that there are different reasons for choosing to have an abortion.

She probably does not agree that the government should legitimize all reasons.

Looks like you need a 3 party system down there. Democrats, Republicans that fit the mold, and Republicans that don't fit the Liberal based label

Call them "Right Wing Extremists" or something!
 
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Anonymous

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Boy whats this Republican Party coming to- eh :???: We've got a McCain arguing for gay marriages- Dads campaign manager arguing the same plus both saying more tolerance on all issues- including the Republican party moving away from the racism, hatemongering and fearmongering..

Rush comes out of the closet as a bunny hugger- and makes ads helping the HSUS get support-- and now Sister Sarah dimwittedly makes the argument for keeping government out of peoples lives and allowing them free choice.... :wink: :p :p :p :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
That's why I respect the campaign that Obama's people ran.

But to respect it, you have to be able to understand it. and no I'm not saying I see through it all.

Doesn't mean you respect the individual that profits from the strategy.

As I have said before when I first started posting on PB, back in jan, or whenever.

Obama is looking for the recognition and acceptance. He will have trouble making decisions for himself and stand by his convictions, he will flip flop or give and take. Narcissism.

The strategists are other people, that count on the public not to see through the strategy.

The republicans need someone to come along that will come up with a suitable strategy, while allowing indviduals to stand by their convictions, while voting for free thinking.
 
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Anonymous

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It looks like Sister Sarah is having a bad week--and even Alaska Republicans are "awakening" to what the extremists are doing to their party...

Palin's choice for Attorney General Rejected by the Alaska Legislature

As a rule, Alaska state politics do not get a lot of national attention, but with everyone expecting Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) to run for President in 2012, small events up there get magnified. Palin's appointee for Attorney General, Wayne Ross, was rejected by the state legislature 35 to 23, the first such rejection in the (short) history of the state. The rejection was especially painful because the Republicans control the legislature so the defeat was not foisted on her by Democrats trying to damage her 2012 run, but by her own party.

Ross, a well-known figure in Alaska politics and a current director of the National Rifle Association, has made some controversial remarks in the past, including calling gays "degenerates" and saying it is all right for a man to rape his wife. If she runs for President in 2012, Palin's primary opponents are going to bring this up over and over, saying that she is a terrible judge of people and would make horrible appointments as President.

Also about Palin, Jeremy Mayer, a professor and author, wrote an interesting piece comparing Palin to Jesse Jackson, a perennial presidential candidate in the 1980s. Mayer says that Palin, like Jackson, is wildly popular with a segment of her own party, but would be completely unelectable in a general election.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Sounds like the political process is working the way it should up there in the North.

Put them under a magnifying glass and keep them honest! I bet with all this scrutiny Palin is one of the most honest politicians around.

I get more worried when everyone just takes their word for gospel, and forget to examine the facts!

including calling gays "degenerates" and saying it is all right for a man to rape his wife

Ross sounds like he might do well in a Taliban ruled country!
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
I don't understand, OT. Why do you even start a new thread on the governor of Alaska, but you won't even comment on an existing thread that details the President of the US bold faced lying?
 
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