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Palin stepping UP!!!

Lonecowboy

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JUNEAU, Alaska -- Outgoing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on Saturday laid the groundwork to take on a larger, national role after leaving state government, citing a "higher calling" with the aim of uniting the country along conservative lines.

A day after surprising even her closest friends by announcing she would step down as Alaska governor more than a year before her term was up, the controversial hockey mom was still keeping details of her future plans under wrap. But in a statement posted on Palin's Facebook account, she suggested that she had bigger plans and a national agenda she planned to push after she resigns at the end of the month.

"I am now looking ahead and how we can advance this country together with our values of less government intervention, greater energy independence, stronger national security, and much-needed fiscal restraint," she said.



"How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it's about country," the statement said. "And though it's honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make."

Palin's personal spokeswoman, Meghan Stapleton, confirmed to The Associated Press that the Facebook posting was written by the governor.

The abruptness of her announcement and the mystery surrounding her plans has fed widespread speculation. But Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein on Saturday warned legal action may be taken against bloggers and publications that reprint what he calls fraudulent claims.
 

hypocritexposer

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Like I said, it might be a good time to start a true conservative party. Let's get back to having some trust in government.

A 3 party system may just work to everyone's benefit. The time is right.
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
Like I said, it might be a good time to start a true conservative party. Let's get back to having some trust in government.

A 3 party system may just work to everyone's benefit. The time is right.

A solid 3 party system (like days of old) could end up with enought split electoral votes to give no one a majority..

In US Presidential races its the electoral vote that counts- and to win the Presidency you have to have over 1/2 the electoral votes-- or else it goes to the House of Representatives to select who the next President will be-- and they can choose any of those running- or someone totally different.....
 

Lonecowboy

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she seems to have both parties peeing down their back leggs right now. let's see if she can keep it up. :D
she has so much support-- except for the media
I attended the local TEA party today-- people want a true conservative leader and government, she was mentioned several times.
look at the grassroots movement Ron Paul had from the internet, the media is losing their all powerful control, if obama doesn't get his grips on the internet like he wants I think Palin has a wonderful chance.
People do want change!!
 
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Anonymous

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Palin Will Resign as Governor of Alaska this Month

"We've seen a lot of nutty behavior from governors and Republican leaders in the last three months, but this one is at the top of that," said John Weaver, a long-time Republican operative close to Sen. John McCain about Sarah Palin's surprise resignation yesterday. Palin did not give any real explanation of why she is resigning as governor of Alaska other than that she was not planning to run for reelection and did not want to be a lame duck. She also said she polled her children, who didn't like her being attacked all the time. She will be succeeded by Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell (R-AK), who ran unsuccessfully for the House of Representatives and lost the primary to incumbent Don Young.

Palin's move is certainly going to dominate the political world for many a news cycle Most politicians would give their eye teeth for even a small shot at their party's nomination for the presidency. Palin was probably the favorite at this moment. Whether she is crazy like a fox or just plain crazy will occupy much ink and many pixels for months to come.

At the very least, this step is seriously unorthodox and will freak out a lot of people. Assuming she wants to be President, the safer approach would have been to remain silent about running for re-election, just saying she had not made up her mind yet about her future. The filing deadline for governor is close to a year from now. As long as no one knew if she was running for governor again, she would not have been a lame duck and the state legislature would have had to treat her with respect. Saying she did not want to be a lame duck is disingenuous since she is the one causing the orthopedic problem in the duck by making this announcement.

Of course, she may well still be thinking of running for President in 2012, but she already had a reputation as a lightweight and this move doesn't give her additional gravitas. Her not wanting to be governor in 2011 while starting a presidential run makes perfect sense. Alaska is just too far from Iowa and New Hampshire and if she spent too much time away from home, people would accuse her of neglecting her gubernatorial duties. But if she is resigning for the purpose of gearing up for 2012 already, she will take a lot of heat for it, starting with questions like:

- If governing Alaska was too tough for you, how will you run the whole country?
- If you are elected President, how do we know you won't quit when you learn where the buck stops?
- Why do you think 2 1/2 years as governor of an empty state qualifies you to be President?


Certainly no one will be asking other Republican candidates anything like this.

If Palin vanishes from the public eye until after the 2010 elections, it will be hard to make a comeback and be taken seriously. Comebacks happen--witness Richard Nixon--but Nixon had been a congressman, senator, vice president, presidential candidate(who came within a whisker of winning in 1960), and finally gubernatorial candidate in 1962, before returning to private life. His fame wasn't based on a single 3-month campaign. Palin doesn't have anything like that background. Of course, she might try to land a TV show on Fox or some other job that keeps her in the public eye for the next two years.

So where does this leave the Republicans in 2012? Palin has probably mortally wounded herself with independents and Democrats, as they are going to regard her as flakey.
But to be elected President, you first have to get the nomination, and this step probably won't hurt her with the Republican base. But her primary opponents are not going to be bashful about raising the above questions in public. At the moment, her opponents appear to be former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (and possibly soon-to-be-former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty). In 2011, Mark Sanford is more likely to be living in Argentina with his soul mate than running for President.

Gingrich would love to be President but he combines the age of John McCain with the marital history of Rudy Giuliani. McCain treated his first wife very poorly but the media left him alone on this because he never claimed to be the "family values" candidate. Gingrich won't be treated with kid gloves. His having an affair with a staffer while violently attacking Bill Clinton for having an affair with a staffer will become campaign fodder. His waiting until his first wife (his high school math teacher) was in the hospital for cancer surgery to tell her he wanted a divorce will surely charm women voters.

So who's left? Huckabee may inherit the evangelical vote since he is an ordained Baptist minister. But he ran last time and had trouble breaking out of this narrow demographic. Still, his folksy ways and guitar playing may convince some people that he is just an "ordinary guy." Mitt Romney will probably have Wall St. on his side again and he could dump another $40 million of his own money into the campaign without having to eat dog food. But Romney doesn't excite people the way Obama and Palin do. Still, if the economy is still in the toilet in 2012, he could run as the "grown up" and maybe even get the nomination almost by default.

And, of course, someone not on the radar at all now may turn up in 2011. In fact, Palin's strange move may encourage other candidates who figured they couldn't match her popularity to come out of the woodwork. All in all, our best guess as to the effect of the resignation is that it may increase Palin's chances of getting the nomination (assuming she wants it) but decrease her chances in the general election as independents and Democrats are likely to see her as a quitter and opportunistic. If she really is disgusted with politics and does not plan to run, then Romney is the likely beneficiary of her move.

There are at least two other conceivable explanations to Palin's bizarre move. First, there may be some big scandal about her about to break and by resigning, the impact will be lessened. Second, she has been the subject of 15 ethics probes in Alaska and hiring lawyers has been expensive. Neither she nor her husband is wealthy and they have five children. By resigning, she is now perfectly free to travel around the country giving well-paid speeches just to earn a lot of money.
 

VanC

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hypocritexposer said:
OT, have you wondered yet why all the liberal media outlets have the same story line concerning palin's resignation?

They are being spoon-fed what they should say and when they should say it. Most are going along with it, and the ones that refuse to march in step with "conventional wisdom", the ones that continue to ask the tough questions, are vilified as hate mongers. Anyone seen as a threat to the "revolution" is castigated. Freedom of speech and freedom of the press are under assault.

For the record, I'm convinced that if conservatives had a huge majority, and the media was overwhelmingly conservative, it would be much the same thing. It's been said that we will be destroyed from within, and the absence of a free-thinking, inquisitive press will make it that much easier.
 

don

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if sarah palin looked like hilary clinton all the cons would have just thought she was a stupid hick. i read her speech from the other day - pure gibberish.
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Palin Will Resign as Governor of Alaska this Month

"We've seen a lot of nutty behavior from governors and Republican leaders in the last three months, but this one is at the top of that," said John Weaver, a long-time Republican operative close to Sen. John McCain about Sarah Palin's surprise resignation yesterday. Palin did not give any real explanation of why she is resigning as governor of Alaska other than that she was not planning to run for reelection and did not want to be a lame duck. She also said she polled her children, who didn't like her being attacked all the time. She will be succeeded by Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell (R-AK), who ran unsuccessfully for the House of Representatives and lost the primary to incumbent Don Young.

Palin's move is certainly going to dominate the political world for many a news cycle Most politicians would give their eye teeth for even a small shot at their party's nomination for the presidency. Palin was probably the favorite at this moment. Whether she is crazy like a fox or just plain crazy will occupy much ink and many pixels for months to come.

At the very least, this step is seriously unorthodox and will freak out a lot of people. Assuming she wants to be President, the safer approach would have been to remain silent about running for re-election, just saying she had not made up her mind yet about her future. The filing deadline for governor is close to a year from now. As long as no one knew if she was running for governor again, she would not have been a lame duck and the state legislature would have had to treat her with respect. Saying she did not want to be a lame duck is disingenuous since she is the one causing the orthopedic problem in the duck by making this announcement.

Of course, she may well still be thinking of running for President in 2012, but she already had a reputation as a lightweight and this move doesn't give her additional gravitas. Her not wanting to be governor in 2011 while starting a presidential run makes perfect sense. Alaska is just too far from Iowa and New Hampshire and if she spent too much time away from home, people would accuse her of neglecting her gubernatorial duties. But if she is resigning for the purpose of gearing up for 2012 already, she will take a lot of heat for it, starting with questions like:

- If governing Alaska was too tough for you, how will you run the whole country?
- If you are elected President, how do we know you won't quit when you learn where the buck stops?
- Why do you think 2 1/2 years as governor of an empty state qualifies you to be President?


Certainly no one will be asking other Republican candidates anything like this.

If Palin vanishes from the public eye until after the 2010 elections, it will be hard to make a comeback and be taken seriously. Comebacks happen--witness Richard Nixon--but Nixon had been a congressman, senator, vice president, presidential candidate(who came within a whisker of winning in 1960), and finally gubernatorial candidate in 1962, before returning to private life. His fame wasn't based on a single 3-month campaign. Palin doesn't have anything like that background. Of course, she might try to land a TV show on Fox or some other job that keeps her in the public eye for the next two years.

So where does this leave the Republicans in 2012? Palin has probably mortally wounded herself with independents and Democrats, as they are going to regard her as flakey.
But to be elected President, you first have to get the nomination, and this step probably won't hurt her with the Republican base. But her primary opponents are not going to be bashful about raising the above questions in public. At the moment, her opponents appear to be former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (and possibly soon-to-be-former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty). In 2011, Mark Sanford is more likely to be living in Argentina with his soul mate than running for President.

Gingrich would love to be President but he combines the age of John McCain with the marital history of Rudy Giuliani. McCain treated his first wife very poorly but the media left him alone on this because he never claimed to be the "family values" candidate. Gingrich won't be treated with kid gloves. His having an affair with a staffer while violently attacking Bill Clinton for having an affair with a staffer will become campaign fodder. His waiting until his first wife (his high school math teacher) was in the hospital for cancer surgery to tell her he wanted a divorce will surely charm women voters.

So who's left? Huckabee may inherit the evangelical vote since he is an ordained Baptist minister. But he ran last time and had trouble breaking out of this narrow demographic. Still, his folksy ways and guitar playing may convince some people that he is just an "ordinary guy." Mitt Romney will probably have Wall St. on his side again and he could dump another $40 million of his own money into the campaign without having to eat dog food. But Romney doesn't excite people the way Obama and Palin do. Still, if the economy is still in the toilet in 2012, he could run as the "grown up" and maybe even get the nomination almost by default.

And, of course, someone not on the radar at all now may turn up in 2011. In fact, Palin's strange move may encourage other candidates who figured they couldn't match her popularity to come out of the woodwork. All in all, our best guess as to the effect of the resignation is that it may increase Palin's chances of getting the nomination (assuming she wants it) but decrease her chances in the general election as independents and Democrats are likely to see her as a quitter and opportunistic. If she really is disgusted with politics and does not plan to run, then Romney is the likely beneficiary of her move.

There are at least two other conceivable explanations to Palin's bizarre move. First, there may be some big scandal about her about to break and by resigning, the impact will be lessened. Second, she has been the subject of 15 ethics probes in Alaska and hiring lawyers has been expensive. Neither she nor her husband is wealthy and they have five children. By resigning, she is now perfectly free to travel around the country giving well-paid speeches just to earn a lot of money.

Despite rumors of a looming controversy after the Republican governor's surprise announcement Friday that she would leave office this month, some of them published in the blogosphere, the FBI's Alaska spokesman said the bureau had no investigation into Palin for her activities as governor, as mayor or in any other capacity.

"There is absolutely no truth to those rumors that we're investigating her or getting ready to indict her," Special Agent Eric Gonzalez said in a phone interview Saturday. "It's just not true." He added that there was "no wiggle room" in his comments for any kind of inquiry.
 

alice

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Palin Will Resign as Governor of Alaska this Month

"We've seen a lot of nutty behavior from governors and Republican leaders in the last three months, but this one is at the top of that," said John Weaver, a long-time Republican operative close to Sen. John McCain about Sarah Palin's surprise resignation yesterday. Palin did not give any real explanation of why she is resigning as governor of Alaska other than that she was not planning to run for reelection and did not want to be a lame duck. She also said she polled her children, who didn't like her being attacked all the time. She will be succeeded by Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell (R-AK), who ran unsuccessfully for the House of Representatives and lost the primary to incumbent Don Young.

Palin's move is certainly going to dominate the political world for many a news cycle Most politicians would give their eye teeth for even a small shot at their party's nomination for the presidency. Palin was probably the favorite at this moment. Whether she is crazy like a fox or just plain crazy will occupy much ink and many pixels for months to come.

At the very least, this step is seriously unorthodox and will freak out a lot of people. Assuming she wants to be President, the safer approach would have been to remain silent about running for re-election, just saying she had not made up her mind yet about her future. The filing deadline for governor is close to a year from now. As long as no one knew if she was running for governor again, she would not have been a lame duck and the state legislature would have had to treat her with respect. Saying she did not want to be a lame duck is disingenuous since she is the one causing the orthopedic problem in the duck by making this announcement.

Of course, she may well still be thinking of running for President in 2012, but she already had a reputation as a lightweight and this move doesn't give her additional gravitas. Her not wanting to be governor in 2011 while starting a presidential run makes perfect sense. Alaska is just too far from Iowa and New Hampshire and if she spent too much time away from home, people would accuse her of neglecting her gubernatorial duties. But if she is resigning for the purpose of gearing up for 2012 already, she will take a lot of heat for it, starting with questions like:

- If governing Alaska was too tough for you, how will you run the whole country?
- If you are elected President, how do we know you won't quit when you learn where the buck stops?
- Why do you think 2 1/2 years as governor of an empty state qualifies you to be President?


Certainly no one will be asking other Republican candidates anything like this.

If Palin vanishes from the public eye until after the 2010 elections, it will be hard to make a comeback and be taken seriously. Comebacks happen--witness Richard Nixon--but Nixon had been a congressman, senator, vice president, presidential candidate(who came within a whisker of winning in 1960), and finally gubernatorial candidate in 1962, before returning to private life. His fame wasn't based on a single 3-month campaign. Palin doesn't have anything like that background. Of course, she might try to land a TV show on Fox or some other job that keeps her in the public eye for the next two years.

So where does this leave the Republicans in 2012? Palin has probably mortally wounded herself with independents and Democrats, as they are going to regard her as flakey.
But to be elected President, you first have to get the nomination, and this step probably won't hurt her with the Republican base. But her primary opponents are not going to be bashful about raising the above questions in public. At the moment, her opponents appear to be former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (and possibly soon-to-be-former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty). In 2011, Mark Sanford is more likely to be living in Argentina with his soul mate than running for President.

Gingrich would love to be President but he combines the age of John McCain with the marital history of Rudy Giuliani. McCain treated his first wife very poorly but the media left him alone on this because he never claimed to be the "family values" candidate. Gingrich won't be treated with kid gloves. His having an affair with a staffer while violently attacking Bill Clinton for having an affair with a staffer will become campaign fodder. His waiting until his first wife (his high school math teacher) was in the hospital for cancer surgery to tell her he wanted a divorce will surely charm women voters.

So who's left? Huckabee may inherit the evangelical vote since he is an ordained Baptist minister. But he ran last time and had trouble breaking out of this narrow demographic. Still, his folksy ways and guitar playing may convince some people that he is just an "ordinary guy." Mitt Romney will probably have Wall St. on his side again and he could dump another $40 million of his own money into the campaign without having to eat dog food. But Romney doesn't excite people the way Obama and Palin do. Still, if the economy is still in the toilet in 2012, he could run as the "grown up" and maybe even get the nomination almost by default.

And, of course, someone not on the radar at all now may turn up in 2011. In fact, Palin's strange move may encourage other candidates who figured they couldn't match her popularity to come out of the woodwork. All in all, our best guess as to the effect of the resignation is that it may increase Palin's chances of getting the nomination (assuming she wants it) but decrease her chances in the general election as independents and Democrats are likely to see her as a quitter and opportunistic. If she really is disgusted with politics and does not plan to run, then Romney is the likely beneficiary of her move.

There are at least two other conceivable explanations to Palin's bizarre move. First, there may be some big scandal about her about to break and by resigning, the impact will be lessened. Second, she has been the subject of 15 ethics probes in Alaska and hiring lawyers has been expensive. Neither she nor her husband is wealthy and they have five children. By resigning, she is now perfectly free to travel around the country giving well-paid speeches just to earn a lot of money.

Despite rumors of a looming controversy after the Republican governor's surprise announcement Friday that she would leave office this month, some of them published in the blogosphere, the FBI's Alaska spokesman said the bureau had no investigation into Palin for her activities as governor, as mayor or in any other capacity.

"There is absolutely no truth to those rumors that we're investigating her or getting ready to indict her," Special Agent Eric Gonzalez said in a phone interview Saturday. "It's just not true." He added that there was "no wiggle room" in his comments for any kind of inquiry.

Then there was no reason for her to quit. What if she got elected President and decided the pressure was just "too much?" She gonna up and quit?

Her constituents put a lot of faith and trust into her when they elected her for a FULL term as governor. Can they, or anyone, ever trust her word now? If she were to promise to STAY THE COURSE, could it be believed?

I don't blame anyone for wanting to make more money, especially in this day and time. So, if she wanted to not seek another term so she could make more money by writing books and getting paid speaking engagements, I can understand that. Seems to me, however, had she fulfilled her term, she'd have had a lot more credibility.

I don't know why she quit...I don't care why she quit. I do think, however, she shot herself in the foot by quitting.

Alice
 

hopalong

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alice said:
Sandhusker said:

Despite rumors of a looming controversy after the Republican governor's surprise announcement Friday that she would leave office this month, some of them published in the blogosphere, the FBI's Alaska spokesman said the bureau had no investigation into Palin for her activities as governor, as mayor or in any other capacity.

"There is absolutely no truth to those rumors that we're investigating her or getting ready to indict her," Special Agent Eric Gonzalez said in a phone interview Saturday. "It's just not true." He added that there was "no wiggle room" in his comments for any kind of inquiry.

Then there was no reason for her to quit. What if she got elected President and decided the pressure was just "too much?" She gonna up and quit?

Her constituents put a lot of faith and trust into her when they elected her for a FULL term as governor. Can they, or anyone, ever trust her word now? If she were to promise to STAY THE COURSE, could it be believed?

I don't blame anyone for wanting to make more money, especially in this day and time. So, if she wanted to not seek another term so she could make more money by writing books and getting paid speaking engagements, I can understand that. Seems to me, however, had she fulfilled her term, she'd have had a lot more credibility.

I don't know why she quit...I don't care why she quit. I do think, however, she shot herself in the foot by quitting.

Alice


Yep so true, :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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We will have to get Micheal Jackson buried first. Then maybe the reporters will have time to find out what is really going on.
 
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