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Palin story sparks GOP family feud

nonothing

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By JONATHAN MARTIN


A hard-hitting piece on Sarah Palin in the new Vanity Fair has touched off a blistering exchange of insults among high-profile Republicans over last year’s GOP ticket – tearing open fresh wounds about leaks surrounding Palin and revealing for the first time some of the internal wars that paralyzed the campaign in its final days.


Rival factions close to the McCain campaign have been feuding since last fall over Palin, usually waging the battle in the shadows with anonymous quotes. Now, however, some of the most well-known names in Republican politics are going on-the-record with personal attacks and blame-casting.


William Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard and at times an informal adviser to Sen. John McCain, touched off the latest back-and-forth Tuesday morning with a post on his magazine’s blog criticizing the Todd Purdum-authored Palin story and pointing a finger at Steve Schmidt, McCain’s campaign manager.

Kristol cited a passage in Purdum’s piece in which “some top aides” were said to worry about the Alaska governor’s “mental state” and the prospect that the Alaska governor may be suffering from post-partum depression following the birth of her son Trig. “In fact, one aide who raised this possibility in the course of trashing Palin’s mental state to others in the McCain-Palin campaign was Steve Schmidt,” Kristol wrote.


Asked about the accusation, Schmidt fired back in an email: “I'm sure John McCain would be president today if only Bill Kristol had been in charge of the campaign.”


“After all, his management of [former Vice President] Dan Quayle’s public image as his chief of staff is still something that takes your breath away,” Schmidt continued. “His attack on me is categorically false.”

Asked directly in a telephone interview if he brought up the prospect of Palin suffering from post-partum depression, Schmidt said: “His allegation that I was defaming Palin by alleging post-partum depression at the campaign headquarters is categorically untrue. In fact, I think it rises to the level of a slander because it’s about the worst thing you can say about somebody who does what I do for a living.”


But Kristol’s charge was seconded by Randy Scheunemann, a longtime foreign policy adviser to McCain who is also close to the Standard editor and was thought to be a Palin ally within the campaign.


“Steve Schmidt has a congenital aversion to the truth,” Scheunemann said. “On two separate and distinct occasions, he speculated about about Governor Palin having post-partum depression, and on the second he threatened that if more negative publicity about the handling of Governor Palin emerged that he would leak his speculation [about post-partum depression] to the press. It was like meeting Tony Soprano.”


Schmidt said Scheunemann’s charges were “categorically untrue.”


“It is inappropriate for me to discuss personnel issues from the campaign,” Schmidt continued. “But suffice it to say Randy is saying these things not because they’re true but because he wants to damage my reputation because of consequences he faced for actions he took.”


Schmidt is alluding, without saying so directly, to the stories that emerged after the campaign that Scheunemann had been fired.


Scheunemann said Schmidt did try to fire him but added: “I’ve got a paystub through November 15th.”


The questions about Scheunemann being terminated are central to the larger battle about who was trashing Palin, something that quickly came to the surface in the back and forth between Schmidt and Kristol on Tuesday.


The vitriol also suggests the degree to which Palin remains a Rorschach test not simply to Republicans nationally but within a tight circle of elite operatives and commentators, many of whom seem ready to carry their arguments in 2012. Was Palin a fresh talent whose debut was mishandled by self-serving campaign insiders, or an eccentric “diva” who had no business on the national stage? Going forward, does she offer a conservative and charismatic face for a demoralized and star-less party? Or is she a loose cannon who should be consigned to the tabloids where she can reside in perpetuity with other flash-in-the-pan sensations?


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24392.html
 

Tam

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Must be something in the news the liberals don't want anyone to see as they are back to writing crap pieces about Sarah and the Republicans . Is it Cap and Trade, Health care reform, second stimulus package, EPA surpressing reports on Global warming , what is it that we are not to notice while we are being distracted. :? :???: I guess I'll have to watch Glenn Beck and see what the rest of the media is not tell us about Obama's agenda. :wink:
 

RobertMac

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A correction, Tam...that would be a THIRD stimulus package! :shock:

The best thing for Republicans would be for all three gentlemen to just back away from the media...I don't think any of them could draw 20,000 people to a political rally!! :eek: :roll: :roll:
 
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William Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard and at times an informal adviser to Sen. John McCain, touched off the latest back-and-forth Tuesday morning with a post on his magazine’s blog criticizing the Todd Purdum-authored Palin story and pointing a finger at Steve Schmidt, McCain’s campaign manager.

Be hard by a long shot to call William Kristol- one of the founding fathers of modern day neoconservatism- and FAUX News bloviator- a liberal....Looks to me like the Repubs are backstabbing and clawing each other quite well without the help of the liberals.... :wink:

Personally I think its a badly needed look back at- and realization of the mistakes they made- and how maybe their chosen "diva" isn't so perfect...
 

RobertMac

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Oldtimer said:
Be hard by a long shot to call William Kristol- one of the founding fathers of modern day neoconservatism- and FAUX News bloviator- a liberal
Creating your own argument???? :roll: :lol:
 

Sandhusker

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"Personally I think its a badly needed look back at- and realization of the mistakes they made- and how maybe their chosen "diva" isn't so perfect..."

I've been thinking the same with you moonbats and Mr. Hope and Change, Mr. Transparancy, Mr. Honest Government, Mr. Constitution, etc....

Stand Sarah up to Maobama, and she looks pretty dang good. But then, just about anybody would.
 

RobertMac

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Oldtimer said:
Personally I think its a badly needed look back at- and realization of the mistakes they made- and how maybe their chosen "diva" isn't so perfect...
It's these three that helped create the Republican party you hate and You are so blinded by your hate, you can't see straight!!!
 

Tam

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Surprise the news just came out saying that some of the statements that were quoted in the Vanity Fair piece of garbage about Sarah were not made by any Republican. Even tho they were accredited to them by the author Todd Purdum. More liberal biased garbage meant to destroy the competition. :roll:
 

cowman52

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If the people running McCains campaign or John himself would realize the democrats are not like his classmates at Annapolis, fine, honorable, upstanding pillars of society but more like the people who hosted him for how long in Hanoi, mean cutthroat sob's who are looking out for themselves and themselves alone the campaign would have been a little different :twisted:
 

RobertMac

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reader (the Second) said:
Actually it's well documented that McCain's staff were stabbing Palin in the back. I don't know why, but this is not being made up by Dems, it was a very tense campaign.
You don't?!?!?! :shock: :shock: :shock: Let me see if I can help. :wink: :wink: :)

What happened at Republican rallies when Palin was speaking??? Obama like crowds!!!!
The left leaning McCain Republican leadership and Democrats saw the hand writing on the wall...a viable Republican threat would have to be built around the principles Palin spoke to. This was/is a threat to both. The idea is...destroy Palin and destroy any chance of a renewed CONSERVATIVE Republican leadership/party. The problem with attacking Palin is that the majority of traditional thinking Americans(D's and R's) don't like it when someone "hits the girl"!!!!
Good luck in 2010...you'll need it!!!!
 

Tam

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RobertMac said:
reader (the Second) said:
Actually it's well documented that McCain's staff were stabbing Palin in the back. I don't know why, but this is not being made up by Dems, it was a very tense campaign.
You don't?!?!?! :shock: :shock: :shock: Let me see if I can help. :wink: :wink: :)

What happened at Republican rallies when Palin was speaking??? Obama like crowds!!!!
The left leaning McCain Republican leadership and Democrats saw the hand writing on the wall...a viable Republican threat would have to be built around the principles Palin spoke to. This was/is a threat to both. The idea is...destroy Palin and destroy any chance of a renewed CONSERVATIVE Republican leadership/party. The problem with attacking Palin is that the majority of traditional thinking Americans(D's and R's) don't like it when someone "hits the girl"!!!!
Good luck in 2010...you'll need it!!!!

BINGO :agree:
 

leanin' H

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McCain was NEVER a VIABLE CONSERVATIVE! He was pushed down our throats by the liberal/moderate states primarys before any of us conservative states had a chance to vote for Romney or Thompson! Then we were all TOLD by the liberal media how modern and mainstream McCain was! And when his numbers started to dip because true conservatives like myself didnt like his liberal leanings, his campaign over-reacted and went with someone opposite of McCain to attract our votes! If you don't believe it was working, just look at how the media jumped all over her! :roll: I'll say this slowly so listen up! McCain IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE! Palin IS! The GOP is fighting about it's direction just like the Dems have for the past 35 years! They need to get behind conservative values and things like border security, limiting government and fixing Obama's 200 days worth of screw-ups! Palin represents a lot of us normal Americans! We relate to her! Is she perfect? No way, but she's light years ahead of the idiot running the ship over the falls we just elected!
 

Sandhusker

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reader (the Second) said:
I read tonight that Palin's resignation was on account of she wanted to save the taxpayers of Alaska money that was being spent on ethics investigations. That's apparently what she said in her resignation speech.

I heard that was a load of BS and that she just didn't want to waste money running for Governor and then being a lame duck.

Wonder about the timing of her resignation and the Vanity Fair article.

You heard that Ayers was "rehabilitated", too.
 

aplusmnt

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reader (the Second) said:
So let me get this correct. McCain's campaign chooses Palin and then stabs her in the back cuz they're leftists but then why the heck did they choose her in the first place??? :roll: :roll: :roll:

McCain is a Liberal as probably his staff members are. Palin was a very strong Conservative. McCain picked her to get some Conservative votes, not because he or his campaign shared the same views.

After the election they went their separate ways, that is why McCain will not endorse Palin he sidesteps the subject of her being President.

Politics, Politics why be surprised at any of it?

You think Biden and Obama like each other?
 

hypocritexposer

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Pretty sad when you have a person that is willing to put her love of country up against all accusations etc, and all you Dems can do is attack her family.

Why not try to discredit her policies or business acumen, instead of her clothes and her down syndrome child? How bout challenging her past political relations, instead of the fact that she wore her husband's jacket at a public event?

What about going against her constituents wishes, any ground to gain there?

As far as I'm concerned we need more like Sarah Palin in Government, not less by chasing them away. And that is a bipartisan statement.

What is it you really want for your country?

Constitution vs. tyranny, which is it going to be?
 

nonothing

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hypocritexposer said:
Pretty sad when you have a person that is willing to put her love of country up against all accusations etc, and all you Dems can do is attack her family.

Why not try to discredit her policies or business acumen, instead of her clothes and her down syndrome child? How bout challenging her past political relations, instead of the fact that she wore her husband's jacket at a public event?

What about going against her constituents wishes, any ground to gain there?

As far as I'm concerned we need more like Sarah Palin in Government, not less by chasing them away. And that is a bipartisan statement.

What is it you really want for your country?

Constitution vs. tyranny, which is it going to be?

What a Drama Queen you are hypo.....Why not just ask Palin out on a date,rather then blow smoke up her arse on this site.....
 

Sandhusker

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hypocritexposer said:
Pretty sad when you have a person that is willing to put her love of country up against all accusations etc, and all you Dems can do is attack her family.

Why not try to discredit her policies or business acumen, instead of her clothes and her down syndrome child? How bout challenging her past political relations, instead of the fact that she wore her husband's jacket at a public event?

What about going against her constituents wishes, any ground to gain there?

As far as I'm concerned we need more like Sarah Palin in Government, not less by chasing them away. And that is a bipartisan statement.

What is it you really want for your country?

Constitution vs. tyranny, which is it going to be?

:clap: :clap: :clap:
 

aplusmnt

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nonothing said:
hypocritexposer said:
Pretty sad when you have a person that is willing to put her love of country up against all accusations etc, and all you Dems can do is attack her family.

Why not try to discredit her policies or business acumen, instead of her clothes and her down syndrome child? How bout challenging her past political relations, instead of the fact that she wore her husband's jacket at a public event?

What about going against her constituents wishes, any ground to gain there?

As far as I'm concerned we need more like Sarah Palin in Government, not less by chasing them away. And that is a bipartisan statement.

What is it you really want for your country?

Constitution vs. tyranny, which is it going to be?

What a Drama Queen you are hypo.....Why not just ask Palin out on a date,rather then blow smoke up her arse on this site.....

Are you 12? :roll:
 

kolanuraven

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hypocritexposer said:
Pretty sad when you have a person that is willing to put her love of country up against all accusations etc, and all you Dems can do is attack her family.

Why not try to discredit her policies or business acumen, instead of her clothes and her down syndrome child? How bout challenging her past political relations, instead of the fact that she wore her husband's jacket at a public event?

What about going against her constituents wishes, any ground to gain there?

As far as I'm concerned we need more like Sarah Palin in Government, not less by chasing them away. And that is a bipartisan statement.

What is it you really want for your country?

Constitution vs. tyranny, which is it going to be?


I'm calling HER a quitter.


You want more quitters in the gov't?

Samrt move dude...real smart!!!
 

hopalong

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aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
hypocritexposer said:
Pretty sad when you have a person that is willing to put her love of country up against all accusations etc, and all you Dems can do is attack her family.

Why not try to discredit her policies or business acumen, instead of her clothes and her down syndrome child? How bout challenging her past political relations, instead of the fact that she wore her husband's jacket at a public event?

What about going against her constituents wishes, any ground to gain there?

As far as I'm concerned we need more like Sarah Palin in Government, not less by chasing them away. And that is a bipartisan statement.

What is it you really want for your country?

Constitution vs. tyranny, which is it going to be?

What a Drama Queen you are hypo.....Why not just ask Palin out on a date,rather then blow smoke up her arse on this site.....

Are you 12? :roll:

nope 11, the same age as kolo/lulu/ally/ GOOGLE INVESTOR, stock and bonds queen :wink: :wink:
By the way kolo how's your frequent flyer miles adding up?? :wink:
 
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