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Palin Targeted in Violence

hypocritexposer

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"My hatred for Sarah Palin continues to grow... I think this woman should be assassinated. Sorry about chya," was a message posted by "jenbobbi."

Another user, "misskate83," posted: "Sarah Palin should be shot for her encouragement of fanaticism against Democrats."

Critics of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin have turned to Twitter to post hate "tweets" suggesting that "she should be shot" and "assassinated."

A four-minute video montage of the the "tweets" -- apparently sent after Saturday's massacre in Arizona that left six people dead and 14 wounded, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords -- was posted to YouTube on Tuesday.


(Warning: this video contains graphic language)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s4YfBKs39Y

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/13/palin-targeted-tweets-following-arizona-shooting-massacre/#ixzz1AxXORgAi
 

hypocritexposer

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ABC's decision, yesterday, to run a piece titled "Death Threats Against Sarah Palin at 'Unprecedented Level,' Aides Say," based on hearsay from Palin's aides without any corroborating evidence, is irresponsible at best.

Yet making an unsubstantiated and libelous allegation that Palin and the Tea Party are responsible for the shooting in AZ is ok.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/157732/sarah-palins-death-threat-claims


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hopalong

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According to kolo=jingo2 she does not have any business defending herself in the media and needs to keep her mouth shut :roll: :roll:

EH JINGO= kolo????

What say you now?????????????????????
 
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Anonymous

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Well if I was Sister Sarah right now-- I'd be using some of the $Zillions she's making as a "reality show star" to hire herself some high dollar security...

The "radical anti everything" atmosphere that has came out of the last campaign (much of which she promoted) - and the rhetoric from both sides- easily makes her now the John Lennon type target that some media influenced nutzo would just love to get his name in the papers over having taken out!! :(
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
Well if I was Sister Sarah right now-- I'd be using some of the $Zillions she's making as a "reality show star" to hire herself some high dollar security...

The "radical anti everything" atmosphere that has came out of the last campaign (much of which she promoted) - and the rhetoric from both sides- easily makes her now the John Lennon type target that some media influenced nutzo would just love to get his name in the papers over having taken out!! :(



Out of the last Campaign? And I suppose when Bush was President, there was no "anti anything"

No anti NAFTA highway, no anti big business, no anti free trade, no anti Bush.

The left has been more anti than the right has been for about 10 years now, and more hatred filled and violent also.

Palin's crew has been pro liberty, it is the left that doesn't seem to value that liberty. They seem to be more pro tyranny.

How did Palin promote hate and threats against herself? they started right from the get go.

We saw quite a bit of it right here on ranchers.

Now's when you say we did the same with obama, because we are racist.

Lefties tried to manufacture hate, when it came to objections to obama's policies, in an attempt to silence opposition. It's par for the course, throughout history, when you look at the transformation of progressives towards communism or fascism.

Progressives are seeing their dreams and their statist goals vanishing.

Vote for them again in 2012 and you ill see more of it from those that would have you living under tyranny.

edited to add: How is Palin radical, when she is only repeating the wishes and opinions of the majority?
 

Liveoak

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Oldtimer said:
Well if I was Sister Sarah right now-- I'd be using some of the $Zillions she's making as a "reality show star" to hire herself some high dollar security...

The "radical anti everything" atmosphere that has came out of the last campaign (much of which she promoted) - and the rhetoric from both sides- easily makes her now the John Lennon type target that some media influenced nutzo would just love to get his name in the papers over having taken out!! :(

OT, I may be wrong but I believe I read where her reality show was cancelled. Maybe it was her shooting at an Elk or whatever, six times and missing it that had something to do with the cancellation. Or maybe it was the camping trip with a high profile guest who said the food waas terrible that made the decision. Doesn't matter much as Palin is really a non-serious contender for a Presidential Election. Pretty much a mouth that some folks find nice to listen too, much like Obama's. The Republicans would much rather her just go away into Oprahland or see her on the next Penthouse photoshoot aiming her gun at a Halibut.

Seriously, the libs are just using her to promote their anti-gun agenda.
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Liveoak said:
Oldtimer said:
Well if I was Sister Sarah right now-- I'd be using some of the $Zillions she's making as a "reality show star" to hire herself some high dollar security...

The "radical anti everything" atmosphere that has came out of the last campaign (much of which she promoted) - and the rhetoric from both sides- easily makes her now the John Lennon type target that some media influenced nutzo would just love to get his name in the papers over having taken out!! :(

OT, I may be wrong but I believe I read where her reality show was cancelled. Maybe it was her shooting at an Elk or whatever, six times and missing it that had something to do with the cancellation. Or maybe it was the camping trip with a high profile guest who said the food waas terrible that made the decision. Doesn't matter much as Palin is really a non-serious contender for a Presidential Election. Pretty much a mouth that some folks find nice to listen too, much like Obama's. The Republicans would much rather her just go away into Oprahland or see her on the next Penthouse photoshoot aiming her gun at a Halibut.

Seriously, the libs are just using her to promote their anti-gun agenda.



I don't know if you and OT have watched her show"Sarah Palin's Alaska" But I have seen most of the episodes and have really enjoyed the show. Last week was the last one with an extra hour devoted to the behind the scenes look at the making of it and the high lights. It was a caribou that she missed and they explained that she was using her fathers gun and he had slipped and fell the day before and bumped the scope. When she used the guides rifle she nailed. The also showed much scenery and some of the mining ,fishing and forestry as well as the oil industry. Very well done and showed the extended Palin family in many situations that any family could find themselves in.
As far as Kate Goslin her kids were great and were really having fun camping with the Palin clan and it was just Kate her self that looked like a self centered witch that wouldn't even make an effort to have fun with her kids.
It might not run next year but it sure wasn't canceled in the middle of a season.
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Well if I was Sister Sarah right now-- I'd be using some of the $Zillions she's making as a "reality show star" to hire herself some high dollar security...

The "radical anti everything" atmosphere that has came out of the last campaign (much of which she promoted) - and the rhetoric from both sides- easily makes her now the John Lennon type target that some media influenced nutzo would just love to get his name in the papers over having taken out!! :(


Tell us Oldtimer who do you think Palin need to protect herself from the gun toting hate filled Conservatives (as described by the media that feeds the hate towards her) or the ever sweet and nice Democrats that wouldn't hurt a hair on a puppy's head (if you listen to the same media). My bet it won't be anyone from the right that will try take her out it will be a leftwingnut crazy feeding on the hate from people like you. :mad:
 

Tam

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As far as Sarah's show they said right from the first show that it was a TLC special of 8 episodes and there wasn't any more than that planned.

Sarah Palin and TLC Televise Beauty of Alaskan Wilderness
By Christine Nyholm
Last Updated Nov 17, 2010, Published Nov 15, 2010
Sarah and
Sarah Palin's Alaska debuted the first of eight episodes on TLC cable television on November 14, 2010. The scene tour of the nation's last frontier was like a love letter to the wilderness state by the controversial former governor and vice-presidential candidate for the Republican party.
 

hypocritexposer

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Tam said:
As far as Sarah's show they said right from the first show that it was a TLC special of 8 episodes and there wasn't any more than that planned.

It was known before the first episode even aired. Mark Burnett was not too impressed with having to wait around for animals to carry out "reality"

The costs associated with filming animals and waiting for them to do something is fairly high
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Well if I was Sister Sarah right now-- I'd be using some of the $Zillions she's making as a "reality show star" to hire herself some high dollar security...

The "radical anti everything" atmosphere that has came out of the last campaign (much of which she promoted) - and the rhetoric from both sides- easily makes her now the John Lennon type target that some media influenced nutzo would just love to get his name in the papers over having taken out!! :(


Tell us Oldtimer who do you think Palin need to protect herself from the gun toting hate filled Conservatives (as described by the media that feeds the hate towards her) or the ever sweet and nice Democrats that wouldn't hurt a hair on a puppy's head (if you listen to the same media). My bet it won't be anyone from the right that will try take her out it will be a leftwingnut crazy feeding on the hate from people like you. :mad:

Couldn't be a leftwinger Tam-- the right keeps saying they don't believe in guns :wink: :p :lol:

It doesn't take issues to feed upon the minds of nutcase's-- just media exposure and a belief it will make you a hero in some folks minds... And the more public and controversial- the more the target...

Both John Hinckley Jr and John Wilkes Booth thought they could gain the blessings of the people and hero worship with their deeds ......
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Well if I was Sister Sarah right now-- I'd be using some of the $Zillions she's making as a "reality show star" to hire herself some high dollar security...

The "radical anti everything" atmosphere that has came out of the last campaign (much of which she promoted) - and the rhetoric from both sides- easily makes her now the John Lennon type target that some media influenced nutzo would just love to get his name in the papers over having taken out!! :(


Tell us Oldtimer who do you think Palin need to protect herself from the gun toting hate filled Conservatives (as described by the media that feeds the hate towards her) or the ever sweet and nice Democrats that wouldn't hurt a hair on a puppy's head (if you listen to the same media). My bet it won't be anyone from the right that will try take her out it will be a leftwingnut crazy feeding on the hate from people like you. :mad:

Couldn't be a leftwinger Tam-- the right keeps saying they don't believe in guns :wink: :p :lol:

It doesn't take issues to feed upon the minds of nutcase's-- just media exposure and a belief it will make you a hero in some folks minds... And the more public and controversial- the more the target...

Both John Hinckley Jr and John Wilkes Booth thought they could gain the blessings of the people and hero worship with their deeds ......


The left want to make it a crime to take or wear a gun to a political rally. Gee would that stop someone with intentions of shooting up the crowd. Duh
 

hypocritexposer

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Tell us Oldtimer who do you think Palin need to protect herself from the gun toting hate filled Conservatives (as described by the media that feeds the hate towards her) or the ever sweet and nice Democrats that wouldn't hurt a hair on a puppy's head (if you listen to the same media). My bet it won't be anyone from the right that will try take her out it will be a leftwingnut crazy feeding on the hate from people like you. :mad:

Couldn't be a leftwinger Tam-- the right keeps saying they don't believe in guns :wink: :p :lol:

It doesn't take issues to feed upon the minds of nutcase's-- just media exposure and a belief it will make you a hero in some folks minds... And the more public and controversial- the more the target...

Both John Hinckley Jr and John Wilkes Booth thought they could gain the blessings of the people and hero worship with their deeds ......


The left want to make it a crime to take or wear a gun to a political rally. Gee would that stop someone with intentions of shooting up the crowd. Duh


That's only half of them, the other half want to conduct business in a hockey rink, surrounded by plexi glass, so nobody can throw things, like guns, at them. :lol: :lol:
 

Faster horses

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On Hannity tonight, he had clips of some TERRIBLE things the left
has said about Sarah, Rush and some other Conservatives through
the years. It was nothing short of violent and nasty. They are a
viscious bunch. Bill Mahr, Ed Schulz, etc. He had the actual
clips...........talk about a double standard.............

And Hannity pointed out there was never any outrage from the
left about them saying these things.They talked about beheading,
etc. It was pure violence. Sickening.
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Well if I was Sister Sarah right now-- I'd be using some of the $Zillions she's making as a "reality show star" to hire herself some high dollar security...

The "radical anti everything" atmosphere that has came out of the last campaign (much of which she promoted) - and the rhetoric from both sides- easily makes her now the John Lennon type target that some media influenced nutzo would just love to get his name in the papers over having taken out!! :(


Tell us Oldtimer who do you think Palin need to protect herself from the gun toting hate filled Conservatives (as described by the media that feeds the hate towards her) or the ever sweet and nice Democrats that wouldn't hurt a hair on a puppy's head (if you listen to the same media). My bet it won't be anyone from the right that will try take her out it will be a leftwingnut crazy feeding on the hate from people like you. :mad:

Couldn't be a leftwinger Tam-- the right keeps saying they don't believe in guns :wink: :p :lol:

It doesn't take issues to feed upon the minds of nutcase's-- just media exposure and a belief it will make you a hero in some folks minds... And the more public and controversial- the more the target...

Both John Hinckley Jr and John Wilkes Booth thought they could gain the blessings of the people and hero worship with their deeds ......

I'm pretty sure that we all know just what the left are all about Oldtimer or was it not Obama that told his koolaid drinking followers they were to bring a GUN to a knife fight. Was it not the Dems that used BULLEYES to TARGET Republican candidates. But it is all Sarah Palin's fault. :roll:

I'm pretty sure there is some Leftwingnut crazies out there that feed off of the left bias media that think they will be hero worshiped by the likes of you if they took out Sarah. So keep making excusing for the lefts vial remarks and blaming others for the results thats what the left does best. :roll:
 

Tam

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Faster horses said:
On Hannity tonight, he had clips of some TERRIBLE things the left
has said about Sarah, Rush and some other Conservatives through
the years. It was nothing short of violent and nasty. They are a
viscious bunch. Bill Mahr, Ed Schulz, etc. He had the actual
clips...........talk about a double standard.............

And Hannity pointed out there was never any outrage from the
left about them saying these things.They talked about beheading,
etc. It was pure violence. Sickening.

Do you mean like old tingle up my leg Matthews comment about sticking a co2 canister in Rush's mouth and blowing up his head. Purely sickening but I'm sure Oldtimer found it funny and excusable as it was a leftard that said it. :roll:

The clips plainly showed the leftwingnuts provoking violence but we are to just overlook it as the Democrats are the party of caring hearts with a Uniting President. Never mind the fact he called Republicans the enemy that needs to be punished and talk about bring a gun to a knife fight. Then you add the fact that some of his supporters carried out violent actions towards Tea Party and town hall atendees. I think we know which party to fear. But don't expect our resident law man to admit who it is as he is a bit to much like Sheriff Dupnic. :roll:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Tell us Oldtimer who do you think Palin need to protect herself from the gun toting hate filled Conservatives (as described by the media that feeds the hate towards her) or the ever sweet and nice Democrats that wouldn't hurt a hair on a puppy's head (if you listen to the same media). My bet it won't be anyone from the right that will try take her out it will be a leftwingnut crazy feeding on the hate from people like you. :mad:

Couldn't be a leftwinger Tam-- the right keeps saying they don't believe in guns :wink: :p :lol:

It doesn't take issues to feed upon the minds of nutcase's-- just media exposure and a belief it will make you a hero in some folks minds... And the more public and controversial- the more the target...

Both John Hinckley Jr and John Wilkes Booth thought they could gain the blessings of the people and hero worship with their deeds ......

I'm pretty sure that we all know just what the left are all about Oldtimer or was it not Obama that told his koolaid drinking followers they were to bring a GUN to a knife fight. Was it not the Dems that used BULLEYES to TARGET Republican candidates. But it is all Sarah Palin's fault. :roll:

I'm pretty sure there is some Leftwingnut crazies out there that feed off of the left bias media that think they will be hero worshiped by the likes of you if they took out Sarah. So keep making excusing for the lefts vial remarks and blaming others for the results thats what the left does best. :roll:

You referring to our resident lawman???And has he not said he still carries a weapon and is he not a leftwingernut :wink:
The one that slides further and further off the cliff of reality every day and with every post?? :roll: :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
Well if I was Sister Sarah right now-- I'd be using some of the $Zillions she's making as a "reality show star" to hire herself some high dollar security...

The "radical anti everything" atmosphere that has came out of the last campaign (much of which she promoted) - and the rhetoric from both sides- easily makes her now the John Lennon type target that some media influenced nutzo would just love to get his name in the papers over having taken out!! :(


Well, you got it partly correct, OT. Most times it has nothing to do with the politics of the person that is targeted, but the notoriety of that politician. Gabbie Giffords was not that well known across the US, until this happened, but was accessible to the shooter, and well enough known in the area he lived in.

It had nothing to do with the radical or mainstream views of any Politician.


Fame Through Assassination: A Secret Service Study

by Alix Spiegel

January 14, 2011

It's well known that in March 1981, John Hinckley attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan. What's not well known is that several years later the life of President Reagan and the life of his vice president, George H.W. Bush, were threatened again. In fact, not just once.

"In the space of 18 months, four situations came to the attention of the Secret Service," says Robert Fein, who in the mid-1980s was working with the Secret Service as a psychologist. In two of these incidents, he says, people with weapons and an intent to kill appeared at public events. In the two other incidents, the would-be assassins were intercepted before the events. Ultimately, all four cases were prosecuted. Two were convicted, and two were sent to psychiatric facilities, Fein says, though the government didn't exactly advertise it.

"These were not stories that hit the news, but they were situations that caused great concern for protectors," he says. "So after these incidents, the Secret Service leadership got together and said, 'We really would like to know more about the behaviors of these people.'"

Creation Of A Study

And so Fein and a Secret Service agent named Bryan Vossekuil undertook the most extensive study of assassins and would-be assassins ever done.

In the Secret Service Exception Case Study Project, they identified 83 people who had completed assassinations or made assassination attempts since 1949 — some cases known to the public, some not — and collected every document they could find. But also, Fein and Vossekuil went to visit many of these people in jail.

Fein says they went with a very particular pitch. "We'd say, 'We're here because we're in the business of trying to protect people and prevent these kinds of attacks. You are one of the few experts because you've engaged in this behavior. We would like to talk to you to understand your perspectives, your life.'"

Most said they’d be very glad to talk, Fein recalls.

The researchers asked prisoners how they chose targets, how they prepared. They inquired about their motives, every intimate detail of their process. After they asked these questions, they combined the answers with other sources and analyzed the information. In 1999, they published their results in The Journal of Forensic Sciences.

Non-Political Killers

The insights of this study are interesting to review in light of the Arizona shooting, though obviously we still don't know that much about Loughner himself. Perhaps the most interesting finding is that according to Fein and Vossekuil, assassinations of political figures were almost never for political reasons.

"It was very, very rare for the primary motive to be political, though there were a number of attackers who appeared to clothe their motives with some political rhetoric," Fein says.

What emerges from the study is that rather than being politically motivated, many of the assassins and would-be assassins simply felt invisible. In the year before their attacks, most struggled with acute reversals and disappointment in their lives. Which, the paper argues, was the true motive. They didn't want to see themselves as non-entities.

"They experienced failure after failure after failure, and decided that rather than being a 'nobody,' they wanted to be a 'somebody,'" Fein says.

They chose political targets, then, because political targets were a sure way to transform this situation: They would be known.

Murderers Searching For A Cause

"If the objective is notoriety or fame, that's the most efficient instrumental mechanism by which to achieve that. I don't mean to be flip about that, but a public official is likely to bring them a substantial amount of recognition instantly, without having to achieve something," says Randy Borum, a professor at the University of South Florida who worked on the study.

And one thing Borum and Fein say about choosing a political figure — as opposed to choosing a show business celebrity — is that you are able to associate yourself with a broader political movement or goal. That allows the would-be assassin to see himself as not such a bad person. In this way, Borum says, assassins are basically murderers in search of a cause.

"People make decisions to act, and then from that, construct for themselves and potentially for others a narrative about why that is OK, or what the rationale would be, or how this could be justified," Borum says. "It's sort of a reverse pattern from what we would typically think."

You can see this very clearly, Borum says, from the way many of the assassins in the study chose their targets. Though occasionally they would fixate on a single person who represented a clear political position, many just went from target to target to target.

"About half of the assassins in this study had multiple targets or what sometimes are referred to as directions of interest, throughout the course of deliberating about an attack," he says.

For example, there was one guy who was fixated on his governor until he heard the vice president was coming to his area.

"And he said he had read enough to know that there hadn't been anybody who had attempted to assassinate a sitting vice president," Borum says.

So he made the vice president his target. He told the researchers he thought he'd get more attention from historians. "He said in the books on assassination, there might even be a whole chapter on him," Borum recalls.

Changed Perceptions


The other assumption that people make about assassins, is that they're insane. People completely divorced from reality. But this study — to a degree — rejects that idea as too simplistic. Yes, the authors write, many of the people were experiencing or had experienced serious mental health issues: 44 percent had a history of depression, 43 percent a history of delusional ideas, 21 percent heard voices. But, as Robert Fein points out, the way these people sought to address what they saw as their main problems — anonymity and failure — wasn't inherently crazy.

"There's nothing crazy about thinking that if I attacked the president or a major public official I would get a lot of attention. I would get a lot of attention. My goal was notoriety," Fein says. "That's why I bought the weapon."

And most of the assassins and would-be assassins weren't totally disorganized by mental illness either.

"They were quite organized," Fein says. "Because one has to be organized — at least to some extent — to attack a public official."

Last Saturday morning at a Safeway in Tuscon, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords became the latest public servant caught in the crosshairs of an attacker's gun. This study suggests the attempt may have been driven by very powerful and personal motives.

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/14/132909487/fame-through-assassination-a-secret-service-study
 

katrina

Well-known member
Tam said:
Faster horses said:
On Hannity tonight, he had clips of some TERRIBLE things the left
has said about Sarah, Rush and some other Conservatives through
the years. It was nothing short of violent and nasty. They are a
viscious bunch. Bill Mahr, Ed Schulz, etc. He had the actual
clips...........talk about a double standard.............

And Hannity pointed out there was never any outrage from the
left about them saying these things.They talked about beheading,
etc. It was pure violence. Sickening.

Do you mean like old tingle up my leg Matthews comment about sticking a co2 canister in Rush's mouth and blowing up his head. Purely sickening but I'm sure Oldtimer found it funny and excusable as it was a leftard that said it. :roll:

The clips plainly showed the leftwingnuts provoking violence but we are to just overlook it as the Democrats are the party of caring hearts with a Uniting President. Never mind the fact he called Republicans the enemy that needs to be punished and talk about bring a gun to a knife fight. Then you add the fact that some of his supporters carried out violent actions towards Tea Party and town hall atendees. I think we know which party to fear. But don't expect our resident law man to admit who it is as he is a bit to much like Sheriff Dupnic. :roll:

That's the idea.... Cause a riot so they can get the masses to come over to there side for the solution.... We must stand strong......And be civil...
 
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