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Pelosi's Gambit

passin thru

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007



Pelosi's Gambit [Jonah Goldberg]


Boehner's office just sent this out:

DEMOCRATS TO CHANGE 185 YEAR-OLD HOUSE RULE TO ALLOW TAX HIKES WITHOUT HAVING TO VOTE

May 16, 2007

In a stunning move, House Democrats today revealed they will attempt to rewrite House rules that have gone unchanged since 1822 in order to make it possible to increase taxes and government spending without having to vote and be held accountable. House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) today vowed Republicans will use every available means to fight this unprecedented change.

“This is an astonishing attempt by the majority leadership to duck accountability for tax-and-spend policies the American people do not want,” Boehner said. “The majority leadership is gutting House rules that have been in place for 185 years so they can raise taxes and increase government spending without a vote. House Republicans will use every tool available to fight this abuse of power.”

Last November, House Democratic leaders promised the most open, ethical Congress in history:

“[W]e promised the American people that we would have the most honest and most open government and we will.” (Nancy Pelosi press stakeout, December 6, 2006)


“We intend to have a Rules Committee ... that gives opposition voices and alternative proposals the ability to be heard and considered on the floor of the House.” (Steny Hoyer in CongressDaily PM, December 5, 2006)


The rules House Democrats are seeking to change have not been changed since 1822.

Republicans have already achieved significant legislative successes on the House floor with 11 consecutive “motion-to-recommit” victories that exposed flaws and substantively improved weaknesses in underlying Democrat bills. But rather than living by the same rules which have guided the House of Representatives for 185 years, Democrats are proposing to change the rules in order to game the system and raise taxes and increase spending without a House vote. What are House Democrats afraid of?
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memanpa

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kolanuraven said:
....and the Rep's haven't spent $$$ like drunken sailors????????

i do not believe that is the point! or is voting on a proposal just another one of the rights that
YOU libs are willing to give up???

:mad:
 

kolanuraven

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MM&P is 100% pure Pavlovian.

I could type the words " dog shite" just at random and he'd have a response!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

memanpa

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kolanuraven said:
MM&P is 100% pure Pavlovian.

I could type the words " dog shite" just at random and he'd have a response!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


thank you that is one of the nicest things you have ever said about me :D :D :D

but you are so far wrong it is pathetic (KINDA LIKE YOU) how many times do i respond to your posts in the other forums? none nada zip zilch!!!! so it must be your political garbage and the way you spout it that offends me and others :D :D :D :D

gonna make accusations at least have the decency to have a few facts correct :roll:
 

passin thru

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Now come on Kola you didn't think I would let you get away with turning the topic.
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First many reps do spend way too much money, something they learned from libs. Buy those votes.

However the point is the Dems trying to raise taxes without a vote.........an awful scary thought. No matter what party tries it.

In a stunning move, House Democrats today revealed they will attempt to rewrite House rules that have gone unchanged since 1822 in order to make it possible to increase taxes and government spending without having to vote and be held accountable.
 

kolanuraven

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PT:

Raise taxes w/o a vote.....bad idea.


BUT.....with all the HUGE debt run up by this admin. somewhere...somehow...someone is going to have to raise taxes, be it Rep or Dem, in the future.

You know it to be fact....and I do also.
 

memanpa

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kolanuraven said:
PT:

Raise taxes w/o a vote.....bad idea.


BUT.....with all the HUGE debt run up by this admin. somewhere...somehow...someone is going to have to raise taxes, be it Rep or Dem, in the future.

You know it to be fact....and I do also.

raising taxes is one thing irregradless of who is at fault to do it without a vote nope!!!
see kaka even i agree with you occasionally on the politcal forum :oops:
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
PT:

Raise taxes w/o a vote.....bad idea.


BUT.....with all the HUGE debt run up by this admin. somewhere...somehow...someone is going to have to raise taxes, be it Rep or Dem, in the future.

You know it to be fact....and I do also.

Why? Has not revenue gone up since the lowering of taxes? Maybe they should lower them more and watch the revenue go up even more?

I new it would not take long before the Dem's tried to pass all their secret power changing legislation. Kind of like them going to go after talk radio to shut it down, since Liberal radio can not make a go of it and conservative talk shows are the biggest champions of truth.

Dem's will do every thing they can to turn America into another cesspool 3rd ward socialistic/Communist country.

If ever there was a great need for a Republican President with some balls to Veto this crap. Besides war on terror, the most important thing to me for a president is one that will not pander to these commies and will hands down VETO all this crap.
 

passin thru

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This nonsense about "paying for" tax cuts is another liberal fantasy. Tax cuts don't "cost" money. The proof is clear............... the numbers are there.................. tax cuts actually lead to increased federal revenues. The left knows, however, that raising taxes on the rich sounds wonderful to their core constituency ....... thus the rhetoric.

The big key is to cut spending, plain and simple. I know you agree Kola because you just got through chastising the Reps for their spending. I condemned the Libs in the past and now the Reps, not like some Libs who only jumped on the bandwagon when the Reps got in power. I have no doubt the Libs will jump off the bandwagon when the Dems have complete control.
 

kolanuraven

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aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
PT:

Raise taxes w/o a vote.....bad idea.


BUT.....with all the HUGE debt run up by this admin. somewhere...somehow...someone is going to have to raise taxes, be it Rep or Dem, in the future.

You know it to be fact....and I do also.

Why? Has not revenue gone up since the lowering of taxes? Maybe they should lower them more and watch the revenue go up even more?

I new it would not take long before the Dem's tried to pass all their secret power changing legislation. Kind of like them going to go after talk radio to shut it down, since Liberal radio can not make a go of it and conservative talk shows are the biggest champions of truth.

Dem's will do every thing they can to turn America into another cesspool 3rd ward socialistic/Communist country.


If ever there was a great need for a Republican President with some balls to Veto this crap. Besides war on terror, the most important thing to me for a president is one that will not pander to these commies and will hands down VETO all this crap.


What a drama queen!!!!! Are you PMSing today?????
 

memanpa

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
PT:

Raise taxes w/o a vote.....bad idea.


BUT.....with all the HUGE debt run up by this admin. somewhere...somehow...someone is going to have to raise taxes, be it Rep or Dem, in the future.

You know it to be fact....and I do also.

Why? Has not revenue gone up since the lowering of taxes? Maybe they should lower them more and watch the revenue go up even more?

I new it would not take long before the Dem's tried to pass all their secret power changing legislation. Kind of like them going to go after talk radio to shut it down, since Liberal radio can not make a go of it and conservative talk shows are the biggest champions of truth.

Dem's will do every thing they can to turn America into another cesspool 3rd ward socialistic/Communist country.


If ever there was a great need for a Republican President with some balls to Veto this crap. Besides war on terror, the most important thing to me for a president is one that will not pander to these commies and will hands down VETO all this crap.


What a drama queen!!!!! Are you PMSing today?????

i doubt he is pms ing but as usual you have got your gonerra infested mouth going full time again! ever stop to think before you open that clap trap you call your mouth?? for some reason NOTHIN and i mean NOTHING anything any conservative person can do that will please you KAKA. or only those that seek to destroy, what too many have died for (including those you claim to send goodies too) called the liberal party!!
tax with out voting why not just do away with voting all together???
Use that educated brain for just a few minutes girl!!! you are starting to lose all sense of reasoning!!!!

good God what a mind set!!
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
PT:

Raise taxes w/o a vote.....bad idea.


BUT.....with all the HUGE debt run up by this admin. somewhere...somehow...someone is going to have to raise taxes, be it Rep or Dem, in the future.

You know it to be fact....and I do also.

Why? Has not revenue gone up since the lowering of taxes? Maybe they should lower them more and watch the revenue go up even more?

I new it would not take long before the Dem's tried to pass all their secret power changing legislation. Kind of like them going to go after talk radio to shut it down, since Liberal radio can not make a go of it and conservative talk shows are the biggest champions of truth.

Dem's will do every thing they can to turn America into another cesspool 3rd ward socialistic/Communist country.


If ever there was a great need for a Republican President with some balls to Veto this crap. Besides war on terror, the most important thing to me for a president is one that will not pander to these commies and will hands down VETO all this crap.


What a drama queen!!!!! Are you PMSing today?????

Actually I kind of am! :lol: Not much sleep lately, thief problem and can not turn on the TV with out seeing Pelosi's ugly mug.
 

nonothing

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why is it that some here get upset with people disliking bush,(or as they say,hating bush)but those same people can teeoff on and get their hate on for any liberal politician they chose....Whats up with that?
 

nonothing

Well-known member
memanpa said:
kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
Why? Has not revenue gone up since the lowering of taxes? Maybe they should lower them more and watch the revenue go up even more?

I new it would not take long before the Dem's tried to pass all their secret power changing legislation. Kind of like them going to go after talk radio to shut it down, since Liberal radio can not make a go of it and conservative talk shows are the biggest champions of truth.

Dem's will do every thing they can to turn America into another cesspool 3rd ward socialistic/Communist country.


If ever there was a great need for a Republican President with some balls to Veto this crap. Besides war on terror, the most important thing to me for a president is one that will not pander to these commies and will hands down VETO all this crap.


What a drama queen!!!!! Are you PMSing today?????

i doubt he is pms ing but as usual you have got your gonerra infested mouth going full time again! ever stop to think before you open that clap trap you call your mouth?? for some reason NOTHIN and i mean NOTHING anything any conservative person can do that will please you KAKA. or only those that seek to destroy, what too many have died for (including those you claim to send goodies too) called the liberal party!!
tax with out voting why not just do away with voting all together???
Use that educated brain for just a few minutes girl!!! you are starting to lose all sense of reasoning!!!!

good God what a mind set!!

Memanpaparazzi

All that name calling and very rude language for a self confessed gentleman all because she asked Aplus a tongue in cheek question? I rest my case..... Memanpa Are you Aplus's protector or are you,oh well never mind i know the answer to that already.. :( :( :( ...

Again this post was unprovoked and memanpa's name was never mentioned.Yet he seems to answer in such an ungentlmenly manner a post he was never mentioned in..We will call this post "number one" in the many unprovoked posts that will follow.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
Why? Has not revenue gone up since the lowering of taxes? Maybe they should lower them more and watch the revenue go up even more?

I new it would not take long before the Dem's tried to pass all their secret power changing legislation. Kind of like them going to go after talk radio to shut it down, since Liberal radio can not make a go of it and conservative talk shows are the biggest champions of truth.

Dem's will do every thing they can to turn America into another cesspool 3rd ward socialistic/Communist country.


If ever there was a great need for a Republican President with some balls to Veto this crap. Besides war on terror, the most important thing to me for a president is one that will not pander to these commies and will hands down VETO all this crap.


What a drama queen!!!!! Are you PMSing today?????

Actually I kind of am! :lol: Not much sleep lately, thief problem and can not turn on the TV with out seeing Pelosi's ugly mug.


Well if you've got a problem with a thief stay on their arse, or rather the local law , and get'um locked up.

I was a constant nag to the local law dealing with my local thief and I guess it was decided that to lock him up finally ( he got 9 years, solid time) was gonna be easier than dealing with me each and every day!!!

And I sent word to the thief that he'd better learn to catch bullets with his teeth before he came back to steal again....as he had promised to do!

Good luck with the thief!
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Well if you've got a problem with a thief stay on their arse, or rather the local law , and get'um locked up.

I was a constant nag to the local law dealing with my local thief and I guess it was decided that to lock him up finally ( he got 9 years, solid time) was gonna be easier than dealing with me each and every day!!!

And I sent word to the thief that he'd better learn to catch bullets with his teeth before he came back to steal again....as he had promised to do!

Good luck with the thief!

They have stole 3 times from some property across the road, nothing worth much, just some junk stored in a garage. I am going to give them a month and then setting up the traps.

One of us is going to Jail, either for theft or use of unnecessary force. :wink:

I hate when a community has a well known thief and you see them get arrested in the paper numerous times for stealing but they never seem to go away. If it was me doing these crimes I would be in jail on first offense, but some how they walk after their 20th. :mad:
 

nonothing

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memanpa said:
hey no no so nice to see you back posting, was afraid that KAKA had forgotten the password to let you sign on :D :D :D but obviously she remembered it just in time :D

Thats all you got memanpaparazzi? at least your answering posts that are addressed to you.Speaking of forgetting passwords,is loomy ever comming back? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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