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Picking the wrong fight.

Who do you want to see win in 2016

  • Ted Cruz

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  • Marco Rubio

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  • Paul Ryan

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  • Jeb Bush

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  • Liz Cheney

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  • Christie

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  • Rand Paul

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Steve

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Sometimes politicians stumble into fights. But sometimes they announce them in advance, calling out their opponents in an unmistakable, almost taunting way. It’s hard to see Chris Christie’s gratuitous slap at “this strain of libertarianism that’s going through both parties right now” followed up quickly by a confirmation that Rand Paul was one of those promoting an “intellectual, esoteric debate” that risks another 9/11, as anything other than an invitation to rhetorical fisticuffs.

mighty big words for such a "little" man...

It’s pretty clear: wimpy professorial types like Obama in 2008 and Rand Paul now can bloviate about civil liberties without having to deal with terrorists or speak to the families of their victims. Real leaders know better. And Republicans need to accept that they can’t distinguish Obama’s anti-terrorist policies from George W. Bush’s, which were absolutely right. Christie also went on in the best Dick Cheney fashion to hold “esoteric” civil libertarian dissenters at least partially responsible for future attacks on the U.S. that kill “thousands of Americans.”

yep,.. have the feds dig through a huge pile of cow sh-t and wonder why they can't find a needle they were warned about...

yet Ol Christie wants them to save that recycled hay stack for later searches..


at least Rand Paul realizes what the fight is about..
from his spokesperson..
“If Governor Christie believes the constitutional rights and the privacy of all Americans is ‘esoteric,’ he either needs a new dictionary, or he needs to talk to more Americans, because a great number of them are concerned about the dramatic overreach of our government in recent years,” Mr. Stafford said. “Defending America and fighting terrorism is the concern of all Americans, especially Senator Paul. But it can and must be done in keeping with our Constitution and while protecting the freedoms that make America exceptional.”

ouch that has gotta hurt the little fat guy, getting slapped back by a spokesperson...

since the moderates and left just lost Rubio as a casualty of the immigration battle.. they may need a cross between GW and Obama

and Christie has them both wrapped up in one fat little package.. :shock:

(maybe that was one to many over-sized comparisons? )


This long-range fight comes a day after PPP released a survey showing Paul and Christie running first and second (Christie’s actually tied with Jeb Bush and Paul Ryan) among Republicans expressing an early 2016 preference. You have to figure that Neocons—whose early 2016 heart-throb, Marco Rubio, is having a very difficult year so far—are ecstatic at having another apparent champion who can attract massive attention every time he opens his mouth, though some of them may be annoyed at Christie’s assertion of identity between Bush’s and Obama’s policies. For his part, Christie could use a source of support in the GOP that extends beyond northeasterners or people fixated on general election polls.

Paul first.

Christie, Jeb bush, and Paul Ryan tied for second...
Rand Paul sits ahead of the field at 16%, his highest numbers since April, and the first time he has held sole possession of first place. Behind him are Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, and Paul Ryan, all at 13%. This is a slight drop for Bush and Christie, who last month had both led with 15%. Just after that is Ted Cruz with 12%, a huge increase from 7% in May. Rounding out the frontrunners is Marco Rubio, who continues to slide in the polls, “The trend in the Republican primary field is pretty clear,” “Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are up and Marco Rubio is down.”
 

Steve

Well-known member
On Thursday, Christie — a Republican darling who many called on to run in the 2012 presidential campaign — weighed in to the recent NRA ad against President Barack Obama, taking the president's side and ad "reprehensible."

Christie again refused to take a position on Obama’s call for a federal assault weapons ban.

Christie has said he supports New Jersey’s current gun laws. They include an assault weapons ban in place for 21 years.

is it any wonder many conservatives are seeing how liberal Christie really is...


Paul, who is reportedly leaning heavily towards a 2016 presidential run, said on The Laura Ingraham Show: “I think criticizing the Second Amendment movement and the over-the-top ‘give me my money’ stuff, ‘I want all 60 billion now or I’ll throw a tantrum,’ I don’t think that’s going to play well in the Republican primary.”

“You have some Republicans backing down like Christie backing down and criticizing the NRA, and I think that doesn’t do any good,” Paul said, according to a transcript.

“I think he may be solidifying his support with Democrats in New Jersey and maybe liberal Republicans,” Paul said of Christie’s recent positions.

Christie has received criticism from a number of conservatives recently.
 
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