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jodywy

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Joe Biden: The Voice Of Anti-Gun Experience

Last week, we highlighted the enormous differences between vice presidential nominees Sarah Palin (R) and Joe Biden (D). Most people are saying that Barack Obama chose Biden as his running mate to compensate for his own lack of experience. After all, Obama has been in the Senate since only 2005, while Biden has been a senator since 1973, when Obama was 11 years old. But few in the Senate have as much experience as Biden in attacking our Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

Just like fellow Democrats Edward Kennedy, Charles Schumer and Dianne Feinstein, Biden has voted for, and actively pushed, major anti-gun bills, including those:

Banning semi-automatic firearms;
Banning hunting, sporting and self-defense ammunition;
Banning magazines holding more than 10 rounds; and
Imposing a waiting period on handgun sales.
Biden also voted against the law that prohibits lawsuits designed to bankrupt law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers. And he voted against the confirmation of Supreme Court Justices who support the Second Amendment, and voted for the confirmation of Justices who do not.

The Brady Campaign sums it up in a straightforward fashion: "Senator Biden has been a consistent supporter of the Brady Campaign." According to the gun prohibition activist group, "Senator Biden was a key player in the fight for the federal assault weapons ban that passed in 1994. He also worked hard for passage of the Brady Law (sic)."

To hear Biden tell it, though, that's only half the story. Last year, during a debate with Obama, Sen. Hillary Clinton, and other contenders for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, Biden said, "I'm the guy who originally wrote the assault weapons ban."

Now, on the one hand, Biden has been faulted in the past for claiming credit for others' work. In one instance, the Washington Post reported, Biden "lifted five pages from a published law review article and used them in his 15-page paper for a legal-methods course" in college. He also plagiarized British Labor Leader Neil Kinnock in a speech before the National Education Association, and similarly "failed to attribute to the late Sen. Robert F. Kennedy a lengthy passage . . . in a speech he gave to the California Democratic Party."

But Biden almost told the truth about his role in the "assault weapon" issue. Indeed, though Sens. Howard Metzenbaum (D-OH) and Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ) had authored earlier bills, Biden introduced an "assault weapons" ban in Congress five years before the Clinton gun and magazine ban was imposed. In 1989, a Biden bill (S. 1970) proposed to ban the Colt AR-15 and eight similar firearms as "assault weapons," and authorize the Secretary of the Treasury (in reality, the then Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) and the Attorney General to recommend to Congress any other firearms, regardless of type, to be banned as "additional assault weapons."

To this day, Biden doesn't merely support a ban on "assault weapons" and standard-capacity magazines holding more than 10 rounds, he actively pushes it. In the current Congress, another Biden bill (S. 2237) proposes to renew the Clinton ban on roughly 200 makes and models of semi-automatic rifles, shotguns, and handguns on the basis of things like the shape of their grips, and on ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, regardless of the kind of firearm in which they are used.

The Supreme Court's recent ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller—the case that overturned Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban—offers two more insights into Biden's position on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

First, Biden has been in the Senate long enough to vote on the confirmation of all nine justices now on the Court. Biden voted to confirm only one of the five justices who ruled against D.C.'s handgun ban in Heller, and he voted to confirm all four justices who believed D.C. could ban handguns without violating the Second Amendment.

Second, before the case went before the Supreme Court, more than 300 members of Congress signed a legal brief supporting the Second Amendment and opposing D.C.'s handgun ban. Biden, like Obama, refused to sign the brief.

While the Obama campaign wants voters to think that Joe Biden complements him, bringing a different perspective to the Democrat ticket, the reality is that both candidates have long records throughout their careers of not merely of going along with gun control, but originating and pushing the anti-gun agenda aggressively. It is fair to say that if Barack Obama is elected president, Joe Biden will be the most anti-gun vice president in American history.

Posted: 9/5/2008 8:33:37 PM
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?ID=319
 

leanin' H

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These are my own thoughts and i have been wrong a lot so take them for what they are worth. But it would seem to me that every vote FOR Obama/Biden is a vote FOR abortion. A vote FOR gun control. A vote FOR higher taxes. A vote FOR more global warming nonsense (See ethanol stupidity). A vote FOR socialized medicine. A vote FOR more government. A vote FOR limiting God in America. Bill Clinton gets blamed and credit for lots of stuff. One thing often overlooked about his administration was how his made the Grand staircase of the escalante national monument here in Utah. It adversly effected so many Ranchers and miners and loggers and drillers and small towns in and around that area. It was just the tip of the iceberg when ya look at how his presidency impacted and is still impacting my neighbors and a lot of ya'll. He appointed folks in positions to impact the Forest Service and the BLM who would love to limit if not make extinct, all grazing on public land. He even announced his Monument while in Arizona with Robert Redford and Bruce Babbit smiling in the background. He did a lot right but he sure did some things we are still making payments on. I guess what i think is that you may disagree with McCain on some issues like his stand with President Bush on Iraq, but whoever becomes the next president WILL personally have tons to do with how Ranchers and Farmers try to do thier vocations. I'd imagine a huge difference between Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin when it comes to how you and i will be effected when it comes to cows and dirt! Ya'll do what ya want, we have that freedom, but i know who will get my vote. It aint about speeches and lobbist's and money and party affiliation. It's about who will watch out for the folks who feed this country and remember how vitaly important that is! I'd imagine if ya live in downtown Detroit or L.A. ya might see it different. But if ya live in downtown Valentine or small town anywhere, i'd submit that my argument may hold a little weight. Just make sure ya vote regardless and do your part in the wonderful history that is America. It ought'a be interesting to watch.
 

Soapweed

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leanin' H said:
These are my own thoughts and i have been wrong a lot so take them for what they are worth. But it would seem to me that every vote FOR Obama/Biden is a vote FOR abortion. A vote FOR gun control. A vote FOR higher taxes. A vote FOR more global warming nonsense (See ethanol stupidity). A vote FOR socialized medicine. A vote FOR more government. A vote FOR limiting God in America. Bill Clinton gets blamed and credit for lots of stuff. One thing often overlooked about his administration was how his made the Grand staircase of the escalante national monument here in Utah. It adversly effected so many Ranchers and miners and loggers and drillers and small towns in and around that area. It was just the tip of the iceberg when ya look at how his presidency impacted and is still impacting my neighbors and a lot of ya'll. He appointed folks in positions to impact the Forest Service and the BLM who would love to limit if not make extinct, all grazing on public land. He even announced his Monument while in Arizona with Robert Redford and Bruce Babbit smiling in the background. He did a lot right but he sure did some things we are still making payments on. I guess what i think is that you may disagree with McCain on some issues like his stand with President Bush on Iraq, but whoever becomes the next president WILL personally have tons to do with how Ranchers and Farmers try to do thier vocations. I'd imagine a huge difference between Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin when it comes to how you and i will be effected when it comes to cows and dirt! Ya'll do what ya want, we have that freedom, but i know who will get my vote. It aint about speeches and lobbist's and money and party affiliation. It's about who will watch out for the folks who feed this country and remember how vitaly important that is! I'd imagine if ya live in downtown Detroit or L.A. ya might see it different. But if ya live in downtown Valentine or small town anywhere, i'd submit that my argument may hold a little weight. Just make sure ya vote regardless and do your part in the wonderful history that is America. It ought'a be interesting to watch.

That was well said, leanin' H. Thank you kindly for stating things just the way they are. I feel the same way you do.
 

Ben H

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Why is it so difficult for people to understand that the 2nd ammendment is about keeping the power in the people, so they have the ability to overthrow a tyrant government if the need arises. Actually, I would say the left probably does understand that and it's the biggest threat to their agenda.
 

Cal

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You all are exactly right! Don't see how the supposed ranching leftists on here can support Oblahblah and Obiden.
 
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